From Admin@brlug.net Mon Feb 3 03:15:21 2003 From: Admin@brlug.net (Tim Fournet) Date: 02 Feb 2003 21:15:21 -0600 Subject: [Admin] [Fwd: The Perfect Pair: the Hot New Xandros Desktop Standard Edition and Win4Lin!!!] In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20030131165028.01f50718@mail.puryear-it.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030131165028.01f50718@mail.puryear-it.com> Message-ID: <1044242122.4655.1.camel@creature.penguinmonster.com> Whoa now, this is not a LUG deal, it's a general promotion to anyone who's signed up at Win4Lin. Anyway, I really don't want anything to do with promoting closed-source software, even if it is for Linux. On Fri, 2003-01-31 at 16:51, Dustin Puryear wrote: > Yeah, I got a promo from them a while ago. Guess what? You are assigned to > this. I will forward the original promo to you. When signing up you can > certainly fill in your details, but use promo@brlug.net for the email > address. This way we will always have the emails even if you decide to > later on move to NYC without notice. > > At 08:29 AM 1/31/2003 -0600, you wrote: > > >Just got this from Win4Lin people... > > > >-----Forwarded Message----- > > > >From: special@netraverse.com > >To: Tim Fournet > >Subject: The Perfect Pair: the Hot New Xandros Desktop Standard Edition > >and Win4Lin!!! > >Date: 30 Jan 2003 23:22:12 -0500 > > > > > >Hello Win4Lin supporter, > > > >As you have probably heard, NeTraverse and Xandros have formed a strategic > >partnership to bring the full range of Windows applications to the > >award-winning Xandros Desktop. Working together with the NeTraverse > >engineers, we: > > > > * Enhanced kernel support for Win4Lin > > * Cut Win4Lin install time! > > > >Now, with the release of Xandros Desktop Standard Edition, this "perfect > >pair" is more affordable that ever! > > > >Xandros Desktop Standard includes: > > > > * The Xandros Installer > > * The Xandros Enhanced Desktop > > * Xandros File Manager > > * The Mozilla web suite > > * The OpenOffice.org productivity suite > > * Xandros Networks Updates > > * Xandros User Forum support > > > >At a special introductory price of $39.95 US, the Xandros Desktop Standard > >Edition is an irresistible bargain! Please head over to the Xandros store at > >http://shop.xandros.com and grab a copy today. (Sorry, we don't gift wrap.) > > > >The original Xandros Desktop -- now called Xandros Desktop Deluxe -- is also > >available to Win4Lin customers at a special introductory price. The Deluxe > >Edition gives you all the benefits of the Standard Xandros Desktop, plus > >Windows productivity tools, the printed user guide, and a Technology Preview > >CD. The Deluxe install program can also grab space from a Windows NTFS > >partition (though you still can reallocate space from a FAT, VFAT, or FAT32 > >partition with the Standard Edition), and you get 30-day e-mail installation > >support, as opposed to one incident with Xandros Desktop Standard. > > > >To help encourage Win4Lin users to experience all the benefits of Xandros > >Desktop Deluxe, Xandros is pleased to announce their Win4Lin Special Offer. > >For a limited time only, until February 28, 2003, Xandros will be offering > >the Xandros Desktop Deluxe for $79.00. This is $20 off the retail price! > > > >To take advantage of this special offer, go to the Xandros store at: > > > >http://shop.xandros.com/product_info.php?products_id=30 > > > >When placing your order, enter the following discount coupon number: > > > > c8afe0179c1d > > > >Xandros will automatically calculate your cost based on this special Win4Lin > >offer. > > > >For more details on Xandros Desktop Standard and Deluxe Editions, please > >visit http://www.xandros.com. > > > >What are people saying about the award-winning Xandros Desktop? > > > >ABOUT XANDROS DESKTOP > > > >PC World Norway, Product of the Year! > > > >"Xandros Desktop OS 1.0 ... is the first Linux distribution that has the > >user-friendliness of Windows, creating a smooth path into the Linux world > >for Windows users, as well as giving Linux users easy access to Windows > >networks. Xandros Desktop OS 1.0 helps make the transition from Windows to > >Linux a simple and painless effort." > > > >PC Magazine Netherlands, Editor's Choice award in the "Click and Run" > >category of Linux distros. > > > >"Xandros does something that no other Linux distribution was able to do: it > >set the 3D-accelleration of our NVidia graphics adapter without having to > >compile a kernel or even install a driver. We were able to run TuXRacer > >without any problems. That's the way it should work in all Linux > >distributions." > > > >DistroWatch.com - Review of Xandros Desktop 1.0 > > > >"[The Xandros Desktop] shows what can be done when developers focus on end > >users and their needs rather than assuming that everyone is a geek." > > > >NewsForge - "It just works," even with Windows stuff > > > >"Xandros seems to be what Lindows could have been if it had stayed true to > >its Linux roots, both product-wise and philosophically. I like Xandros; I > >like the ease of use combined with common-sense security options and > >configurability; I > >like that it reaches out to Windows users without alienating the Linux > >community; it may just end up becoming the main distribution in my house." > > > >ExtremeTech - Another Winning Linux Distro > > > >"Xandros is fine desktop OS choice. It feels less commercial than Lindows > >and comes with more software. We expect great things from Xandros as its > >product matures and grows." > > > >To learn more about the Xandros Desktop, please visit our web site at: > > > >http://www.xandros.com/ > > > >Thank you -- we look forward to serving the NeTraverse community. > > > >Sincerely, > > > >The Xandros Team > > > >Unsubscribe Information: > > > >You are receiving this email because you created a member account at > >NeTraverse's website. If you would like to be excluded from future mailings > >please log in and choose not to receive mail from NeTraverse and its > >partners on your account profile at: > >https://www.netraverse.com/member/login.php?action=UpdateReg . > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Admin mailing list > >Admin@brlug.net > >http://oxygen.nocdirect.com/mailman/listinfo/admin_brlug.net > > > > > > > > > > > >SPAM: ------------------------ Spamnix Spam Report ------------------------- > >SPAM: Spamnix identified this message as spam. 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However, I am concerned that LUG members will get bumped out of LUG-taught classes as Clickers members have preference. Is this an issue for anyone here? I know that John, Tim, and Doug were going to be spearheading this, so it's up to you how to handle it. Something we should discuss though. One solution may be to have a six or maybe even three month cycle to the classes. The LUG will offer them to the Clickers, but the classes will always be open to both Clickers and non-paying LUG members. Clickers can have preference, but since we repeat classes every six months LUG members will always have a chance of getting in. >At that meeting, I said I would send to the list some thoughts I had on >topics to cover, especially on finding Windows equivalents. All week at >work I've been jotting down ideas, I typed them up this evening, then >found that I'm probably taking the cake for extreme wordiness. Okay, it >won't be the first prize I've gotten for that, so here goes my 5 1/2 >cents' worth: > >Suggestions for a curriculum for new Linux users: > >Start with simple easy things. Show them early on that they can get into >Linux and be productive without having to be a supergeek systems admin or >programmer and without having to totally abandon Windows. (They may arrive >at any or all of those later on their own.) > >Hold off on teaching how to install and tweak the OS until an intermediate >level or on a separate track for intermediate to advanced users. Windows >users nearly always buy a new computer with the OS and a lot of apps >already installed. Let's get them productive as fast as possible, then >start installing things. > >I found two articles on the Internet in the past few days that give some >ideas for our classes and helping new users: > >"How do I do (insert task here) in Linux?"at >http://users.netwit.net.au/~pursang/dtil/ . This one has a new users guide >that is pretty well written. > >Experiences in helping a new Linux user, at >http://www.desktoplinux.com/articles/AT8221013471.html . This is rather >wordy, but illustrates how someone who knows and cares zip about any OS >can work happily in Linux with a little help from a mentor. > >I found these at http://www.linuxdailynews.com/ . This and similar news >sites would be good to point out to students at all levels as a way of >keeping informed. > >It might be good to arrange the classes either (1) as one long track, from >beginner to advanced over the whole period that is planned, or (2) as two >tracks, one beginner to intermediate with an emphasis on typical consumer >apps, and the other as intermediate to advanced with an emphasis on >working more with the OS, networking, etc. The intent in either case is to >give both beginners and advanced students their own classes without boring >the other. > >A topic that I think needs to be covered well, possibly to some extent in >many different sessions, is "what's in it for Windows users" hopefully >without aggravating Windows lovers too much. Security, stability, >reliability, use as an Internet gateway, server for all the computers in >the house, free and low-cost software, and other topics like this can be >mentioned often. > >Early sessions for the newest users might be something like this, assuming >that the OS and applications are loaded, and peripherals are attached and >working: >1. Survival 101: How to turn it on, log in as a user, find most commonly >used apps, open and close them, and end a session (what to do inside the >app probably needs its own class). The need to work as a user rather than >at root. How to power down safely. When to power down and when to let it run. >2. Survival 102: What's all the rest of this stuff on the screen? How to >use four (or more! Wow!) screens? How to set up those screens for >different uses. How to find and use the Help or User Guides. Open a >terminal, and what the dickens is a terminal for? (add ...) >3.Productivity 101: How to use email, Internet, a word processor, a >spreadsheet program, and a game or two. How to print documents and make >backups. >4. Productivity 102: How to use software for loading digital images from >camera or email, scanning and editing photos, sending photos through >email. How to play music on the computer while working. Other office apps, >depending on the interest shown and level of expertise. >5.New stuff 101: Installing new or revised software. Installing or >connecting new hardware, like printers. Downloading software and installing it. >6.Productivity 201: More advanced graphics apps, like Gimp, or ...? >Burning to CD music, photos, data backup, ... Using software for >financial management, databases, genealogy, music editing, ... > >That's a start. Y'all help me out with specifics. I'm trying to picture a >typical user, who does a fairly limited number of things, but whatever he >does, he wants his computer and programs to work well without the old BSOD. > >At all levels, mention the Linux equivalent to Windows apps, or at least a >way to accomplish the same thing in Linux that a specialized Windows app does. > >At the intermediate to advanced level, include: >1.ways to use Windows apps in Linux , like Wine >2.dual booting >3.understanding the OS, what a beginner can do safely at root >4.managing files and directories as a user and at root >5.syncing with a laptop and a pda >6.using a Linux-based pda >7.downloading GPS data >8.... Y'all help me here... I'm running out of ideas. > >Okay, last in a long message, my personal list of specific Windows apps >that I would like to see in a Linux equivalent: > >WordPerfect Office, the whole thing, not just WP, version 11 >Dragon Naturally Speaking >Corel Draw and PhotoPaint, ver 11 >Mapping software: ArcView, ArcGIS, ArcPad, StreetMap >Music software: Cakewalk >Games: Puzz3D (3d jigsaw puzzles), hundreds of versions of solitaire (from >various sources) >Norton Utilities (hopefully not needed, considering the strengths of Linux!) >Financial software: Quicken >Genealogy software: Family Tree Maker and Personal Ancestry File > >That's enough for a start. There's a lot I want to learn about using >Linux, but wherever I can help in this endeavor, I will. I hope this flies. > >Sue > > >At 07:14 AM 1/28/03 -0800, you wrote: > >>I want to thank John for taking over the Libranet install for me when I >>had to leave the install fest last night! I hope it went well after I left. >> >>At the meeeting we discussed a focus for the class. The general feeling >>seemed to be a class focused on how a user accustomed to Windows 95, 98, >>or XP can accomplish similar tasks with Linux. >> >>Some frustration with a lack of standardization was expressed as well as >>a desire to understand how to configure the menus and desktop to suit >>personal tastes. >> >>Any suggestions for particular tasks and focus. >> >>John also mentioned that this is being sponsored by the CCCC, and that >>memebers will get their seats first. If you are not a member of CCCC, >>now might be a good time to join. >> >> >> >> >>Warmest Regards, >> >>Doug Riddle >>http://www.dougriddle.com >>http://fossile-project.sourceforge.net/ >>http://www.libranet.com >>-- "Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are >>the Peoples' Liberty Teeth." - George Washington -- >> >> >> >>Do you Yahoo!? >>Yahoo! Mail >>Plus - Powerful. Affordable. >>Sign up now --- Dustin Puryear Puryear Information Technology Windows, UNIX, and IT Consulting http://www.puryear-it.com From Admin@brlug.net Mon Feb 3 15:24:17 2003 From: Admin@brlug.net (Tim Fournet) Date: 03 Feb 2003 09:24:17 -0600 Subject: [Admin] Fwd: Re: [brlug-general] Linux Classes - Curriculum/Focus In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20030201112858.05d9dbe8@pop.netaddress.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030201112858.05d9dbe8@pop.netaddress.com> Message-ID: <1044285861.18945.34.camel@psyche.ldaf.state.la.us> I have the same feeling. However the subject matter of this particular curriculum makes me feel a little better about it, mainly for the reason that it has been mostly Clickers-type users who have bee asking for this particular subject matter. It seems that most of the non-Clicker BRLUG members have been more interested in a bottom-up approach to learning Linux. If these particular classes were more technically-oriented, then I would probably have big reservations about hosting them at Clickers. On a semi-related note, I'd like to start thinking about how we're going to resume the more technical meetings. Do we have a venue? I'd also like to get LSU students more involved. We've got SuperMike right here, and the LUG has yet to see it! :) -Tim On Sat, 2003-02-01 at 11:31, Dustin Puryear wrote: > All of the suggestions made by Sue sound great. However, I am concerned > that LUG members will get bumped out of LUG-taught classes as Clickers > members have preference. Is this an issue for anyone here? I know that > John, Tim, and Doug were going to be spearheading this, so it's up to you > how to handle it. Something we should discuss though. > > One solution may be to have a six or maybe even three month cycle to the > classes. The LUG will offer them to the Clickers, but the classes will > always be open to both Clickers and non-paying LUG members. Clickers can > have preference, but since we repeat classes every six months LUG members > will always have a chance of getting in. > From Admin@brlug.net Mon Feb 3 15:24:57 2003 From: Admin@brlug.net (Dustin Puryear) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 09:24:57 -0600 Subject: [Admin] [Fwd: The Perfect Pair: the Hot New Xandros Desktop Standard Edition and Win4Lin!!!] In-Reply-To: <1044242122.4655.1.camel@creature.penguinmonster.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030131165028.01f50718@mail.puryear-it.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20030131165028.01f50718@mail.puryear-it.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030203092427.05e30528@mail.puryear-it.com> I meant that they sent us a promo offer specifically for the LUG. I thought I forwarded that as well to admin. At 09:15 PM 2/2/2003 -0600, you wrote: >Whoa now, this is not a LUG deal, it's a general promotion to anyone >who's signed up at Win4Lin. Anyway, I really don't want anything to do >with promoting closed-source software, even if it is for Linux. > > >On Fri, 2003-01-31 at 16:51, Dustin Puryear wrote: > > Yeah, I got a promo from them a while ago. Guess what? You are assigned to > > this. I will forward the original promo to you. When signing up you can > > certainly fill in your details, but use promo@brlug.net for the email > > address. This way we will always have the emails even if you decide to > > later on move to NYC without notice. > > > > At 08:29 AM 1/31/2003 -0600, you wrote: > > > > >Just got this from Win4Lin people... > > > > > >-----Forwarded Message----- > > > > > >From: special@netraverse.com > > >To: Tim Fournet > > >Subject: The Perfect Pair: the Hot New Xandros Desktop Standard Edition > > >and Win4Lin!!! > > >Date: 30 Jan 2003 23:22:12 -0500 > > > > > > > > >Hello Win4Lin supporter, > > > > > >As you have probably heard, NeTraverse and Xandros have formed a strategic > > >partnership to bring the full range of Windows applications to the > > >award-winning Xandros Desktop. Working together with the NeTraverse > > >engineers, we: > > > > > > * Enhanced kernel support for Win4Lin > > > * Cut Win4Lin install time! > > > > > >Now, with the release of Xandros Desktop Standard Edition, this "perfect > > >pair" is more affordable that ever! > > > > > >Xandros Desktop Standard includes: > > > > > > * The Xandros Installer > > > * The Xandros Enhanced Desktop > > > * Xandros File Manager > > > * The Mozilla web suite > > > * The OpenOffice.org productivity suite > > > * Xandros Networks Updates > > > * Xandros User Forum support > > > > > >At a special introductory price of $39.95 US, the Xandros Desktop Standard > > >Edition is an irresistible bargain! Please head over to the Xandros > store at > > >http://shop.xandros.com and grab a copy today. (Sorry, we don't gift > wrap.) > > > > > >The original Xandros Desktop -- now called Xandros Desktop Deluxe -- > is also > > >available to Win4Lin customers at a special introductory price. The Deluxe > > >Edition gives you all the benefits of the Standard Xandros Desktop, plus > > >Windows productivity tools, the printed user guide, and a Technology > Preview > > >CD. The Deluxe install program can also grab space from a Windows NTFS > > >partition (though you still can reallocate space from a FAT, VFAT, or > FAT32 > > >partition with the Standard Edition), and you get 30-day e-mail > installation > > >support, as opposed to one incident with Xandros Desktop Standard. > > > > > >To help encourage Win4Lin users to experience all the benefits of Xandros > > >Desktop Deluxe, Xandros is pleased to announce their Win4Lin Special > Offer. > > >For a limited time only, until February 28, 2003, Xandros will be offering > > >the Xandros Desktop Deluxe for $79.00. This is $20 off the retail price! > > > > > >To take advantage of this special offer, go to the Xandros store at: > > > > > >http://shop.xandros.com/product_info.php?products_id=30 > > > > > >When placing your order, enter the following discount coupon number: > > > > > > c8afe0179c1d > > > > > >Xandros will automatically calculate your cost based on this special > Win4Lin > > >offer. > > > > > >For more details on Xandros Desktop Standard and Deluxe Editions, please > > >visit http://www.xandros.com. > > > > > >What are people saying about the award-winning Xandros Desktop? > > > > > >ABOUT XANDROS DESKTOP > > > > > >PC World Norway, Product of the Year! > > > > > >"Xandros Desktop OS 1.0 ... is the first Linux distribution that has the > > >user-friendliness of Windows, creating a smooth path into the Linux world > > >for Windows users, as well as giving Linux users easy access to Windows > > >networks. Xandros Desktop OS 1.0 helps make the transition from Windows to > > >Linux a simple and painless effort." > > > > > >PC Magazine Netherlands, Editor's Choice award in the "Click and Run" > > >category of Linux distros. > > > > > >"Xandros does something that no other Linux distribution was able to > do: it > > >set the 3D-accelleration of our NVidia graphics adapter without having to > > >compile a kernel or even install a driver. We were able to run TuXRacer > > >without any problems. That's the way it should work in all Linux > > >distributions." > > > > > >DistroWatch.com - Review of Xandros Desktop 1.0 > > > > > >"[The Xandros Desktop] shows what can be done when developers focus on end > > >users and their needs rather than assuming that everyone is a geek." > > > > > >NewsForge - "It just works," even with Windows stuff > > > > > >"Xandros seems to be what Lindows could have been if it had stayed true to > > >its Linux roots, both product-wise and philosophically. I like Xandros; I > > >like the ease of use combined with common-sense security options and > > >configurability; I > > >like that it reaches out to Windows users without alienating the Linux > > >community; it may just end up becoming the main distribution in my house." > > > > > >ExtremeTech - Another Winning Linux Distro > > > > > >"Xandros is fine desktop OS choice. It feels less commercial than Lindows > > >and comes with more software. We expect great things from Xandros as its > > >product matures and grows." > > > > > >To learn more about the Xandros Desktop, please visit our web site at: > > > > > >http://www.xandros.com/ > > > > > >Thank you -- we look forward to serving the NeTraverse community. > > > > > >Sincerely, > > > > > >The Xandros Team > > > > > >Unsubscribe Information: > > > > > >You are receiving this email because you created a member account at > > >NeTraverse's website. 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However the subject matter of this particular >curriculum makes me feel a little better about it, mainly for the reason >that it has been mostly Clickers-type users who have bee asking for this >particular subject matter. It seems that most of the non-Clicker BRLUG >members have been more interested in a bottom-up approach to learning >Linux. If these particular classes were more technically-oriented, then >I would probably have big reservations about hosting them at Clickers. Be sure to let me know the firm plans on this a month or so before the classes start. I can write up a press release and send it to the newspapers. --- Dustin Puryear Puryear Information Technology Windows, UNIX, and IT Consulting http://www.puryear-it.com From Admin@brlug.net Mon Feb 3 15:40:29 2003 From: Admin@brlug.net (Dustin Puryear) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 09:40:29 -0600 Subject: [Admin] Fwd: Re: [brlug-general] Linux Classes - Curriculum/Focus In-Reply-To: <1044285861.18945.34.camel@psyche.ldaf.state.la.us> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030201112858.05d9dbe8@pop.netaddress.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20030201112858.05d9dbe8@pop.netaddress.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030203093643.05e30528@mail.puryear-it.com> I can reschedule meetings at Bluebonnet if we have enough notice. We can also do meetings at LSU, but then there is the parking issue. Thoughts? Also, before resuming the more technical classes I would like to see at least three meetings planned ahead. We pretty much stopped the technical meetings because they were being held by the same one or two people in general over and over and over. After a few years that gets old. Let's try to schedule a few meetings in advance. Hopefully each meeting will have a different speaker. We can hopefully pull from LSU, Lafeyette, local businesses, and (much less likely based on history) LUG members. Internally, the following people can be expected to make presentations: Dustin, Tim, John H., Doug, and Ricky. That is at least a five month rotation if nothing else. Finally, Accent Consulting is willing to sponsor our next meeting. PS I CC'd Ricky as he is off-list. At 09:24 AM 2/3/2003 -0600, you wrote: >I have the same feeling. However the subject matter of this particular >curriculum makes me feel a little better about it, mainly for the reason >that it has been mostly Clickers-type users who have bee asking for this >particular subject matter. It seems that most of the non-Clicker BRLUG >members have been more interested in a bottom-up approach to learning >Linux. If these particular classes were more technically-oriented, then >I would probably have big reservations about hosting them at Clickers. > >On a semi-related note, I'd like to start thinking about how we're going >to resume the more technical meetings. Do we have a venue? I'd also like >to get LSU students more involved. We've got SuperMike right here, and >the LUG has yet to see it! :) > >-Tim > >On Sat, 2003-02-01 at 11:31, Dustin Puryear wrote: > > All of the suggestions made by Sue sound great. However, I am concerned > > that LUG members will get bumped out of LUG-taught classes as Clickers > > members have preference. Is this an issue for anyone here? I know that > > John, Tim, and Doug were going to be spearheading this, so it's up to you > > how to handle it. Something we should discuss though. > > > > One solution may be to have a six or maybe even three month cycle to the > > classes. The LUG will offer them to the Clickers, but the classes will > > always be open to both Clickers and non-paying LUG members. Clickers can > > have preference, but since we repeat classes every six months LUG members > > will always have a chance of getting in. > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Admin mailing list >Admin@brlug.net >http://oxygen.nocdirect.com/mailman/listinfo/admin_brlug.net --- Dustin Puryear Puryear Information Technology Windows, UNIX, and IT Consulting http://www.puryear-it.com From Admin@brlug.net Mon Feb 3 17:12:15 2003 From: Admin@brlug.net (Tim Fournet) Date: 03 Feb 2003 11:12:15 -0600 Subject: [Admin] [Fwd: The Perfect Pair: the Hot New Xandros Desktop Standard Edition and Win4Lin!!!] In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20030203092427.05e30528@mail.puryear-it.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030131165028.01f50718@mail.puryear-it.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20030131165028.01f50718@mail.puryear-it.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20030203092427.05e30528@mail.puryear-it.com> Message-ID: <1044292338.18946.143.camel@psyche.ldaf.state.la.us> In that case, forwarding the emails to the appropriate list(s) is sufficient, IMO. -Tim On Mon, 2003-02-03 at 09:24, Dustin Puryear wrote: > I meant that they sent us a promo offer specifically for the LUG. I thought > I forwarded that as well to admin. > > At 09:15 PM 2/2/2003 -0600, you wrote: > > >Whoa now, this is not a LUG deal, it's a general promotion to anyone > >who's signed up at Win4Lin. Anyway, I really don't want anything to do > >with promoting closed-source software, even if it is for Linux. > > > > > >On Fri, 2003-01-31 at 16:51, Dustin Puryear wrote: > > > Yeah, I got a promo from them a while ago. Guess what? You are assigned to > > > this. I will forward the original promo to you. When signing up you can > > > certainly fill in your details, but use promo@brlug.net for the email > > > address. This way we will always have the emails even if you decide to > > > later on move to NYC without notice. > > > > > > At 08:29 AM 1/31/2003 -0600, you wrote: > > > > > > >Just got this from Win4Lin people... > > > > > > > >-----Forwarded Message----- > > > > > > > >From: special@netraverse.com > > > >To: Tim Fournet > > > >Subject: The Perfect Pair: the Hot New Xandros Desktop Standard Edition > > > >and Win4Lin!!! > > > >Date: 30 Jan 2003 23:22:12 -0500 > > > > > > > > > > > >Hello Win4Lin supporter, > > > > > > > >As you have probably heard, NeTraverse and Xandros have formed a strategic > > > >partnership to bring the full range of Windows applications to the > > > >award-winning Xandros Desktop. Working together with the NeTraverse > > > >engineers, we: > > > > > > > > * Enhanced kernel support for Win4Lin > > > > * Cut Win4Lin install time! > > > > > > > >Now, with the release of Xandros Desktop Standard Edition, this "perfect > > > >pair" is more affordable that ever! > > > > > > > >Xandros Desktop Standard includes: > > > > > > > > * The Xandros Installer > > > > * The Xandros Enhanced Desktop > > > > * Xandros File Manager > > > > * The Mozilla web suite > > > > * The OpenOffice.org productivity suite > > > > * Xandros Networks Updates > > > > * Xandros User Forum support > > > > > > > >At a special introductory price of $39.95 US, the Xandros Desktop Standard > > > >Edition is an irresistible bargain! Please head over to the Xandros > > store at > > > >http://shop.xandros.com and grab a copy today. (Sorry, we don't gift > > wrap.) > > > > > > > >The original Xandros Desktop -- now called Xandros Desktop Deluxe -- > > is also > > > >available to Win4Lin customers at a special introductory price. The Deluxe > > > >Edition gives you all the benefits of the Standard Xandros Desktop, plus > > > >Windows productivity tools, the printed user guide, and a Technology > > Preview > > > >CD. The Deluxe install program can also grab space from a Windows NTFS > > > >partition (though you still can reallocate space from a FAT, VFAT, or > > FAT32 > > > >partition with the Standard Edition), and you get 30-day e-mail > > installation > > > >support, as opposed to one incident with Xandros Desktop Standard. > > > > > > > >To help encourage Win4Lin users to experience all the benefits of Xandros > > > >Desktop Deluxe, Xandros is pleased to announce their Win4Lin Special > > Offer. > > > >For a limited time only, until February 28, 2003, Xandros will be offering > > > >the Xandros Desktop Deluxe for $79.00. This is $20 off the retail price! > > > > > > > >To take advantage of this special offer, go to the Xandros store at: > > > > > > > >http://shop.xandros.com/product_info.php?products_id=30 > > > > > > > >When placing your order, enter the following discount coupon number: > > > > > > > > c8afe0179c1d > > > > > > > >Xandros will automatically calculate your cost based on this special > > Win4Lin > > > >offer. > > > > > > > >For more details on Xandros Desktop Standard and Deluxe Editions, please > > > >visit http://www.xandros.com. > > > > > > > >What are people saying about the award-winning Xandros Desktop? > > > > > > > >ABOUT XANDROS DESKTOP > > > > > > > >PC World Norway, Product of the Year! > > > > > > > >"Xandros Desktop OS 1.0 ... is the first Linux distribution that has the > > > >user-friendliness of Windows, creating a smooth path into the Linux world > > > >for Windows users, as well as giving Linux users easy access to Windows > > > >networks. Xandros Desktop OS 1.0 helps make the transition from Windows to > > > >Linux a simple and painless effort." > > > > > > > >PC Magazine Netherlands, Editor's Choice award in the "Click and Run" > > > >category of Linux distros. > > > > > > > >"Xandros does something that no other Linux distribution was able to > > do: it > > > >set the 3D-accelleration of our NVidia graphics adapter without having to > > > >compile a kernel or even install a driver. We were able to run TuXRacer > > > >without any problems. That's the way it should work in all Linux > > > >distributions." > > > > > > > >DistroWatch.com - Review of Xandros Desktop 1.0 > > > > > > > >"[The Xandros Desktop] shows what can be done when developers focus on end > > > >users and their needs rather than assuming that everyone is a geek." > > > > > > > >NewsForge - "It just works," even with Windows stuff > > > > > > > >"Xandros seems to be what Lindows could have been if it had stayed true to > > > >its Linux roots, both product-wise and philosophically. I like Xandros; I > > > >like the ease of use combined with common-sense security options and > > > >configurability; I > > > >like that it reaches out to Windows users without alienating the Linux > > > >community; it may just end up becoming the main distribution in my house." > > > > > > > >ExtremeTech - Another Winning Linux Distro > > > > > > > >"Xandros is fine desktop OS choice. It feels less commercial than Lindows > > > >and comes with more software. We expect great things from Xandros as its > > > >product matures and grows." > > > > > > > >To learn more about the Xandros Desktop, please visit our web site at: > > > > > > > >http://www.xandros.com/ > > > > > > > >Thank you -- we look forward to serving the NeTraverse community. > > > > > > > >Sincerely, > > > > > > > >The Xandros Team > > > > > > > >Unsubscribe Information: > > > > > > > >You are receiving this email because you created a member account at > > > >NeTraverse's website. 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This report shows which > > > >SPAM: rules matched the message and how many points each rule contributed. > > > >SPAM: > > > >SPAM: Content analysis details: (9.9 hits, 5 required) > > > >SPAM: X_ANTIABUSE (2.4 points) Found a X-AntiAbuse header > > > >SPAM: PLING_PLING (0.8 points) Subject has lots of exclamation > > marks > > > >SPAM: PLING (0.1 points) Subject has an exclamation mark > > > >SPAM: LIMITED_TIME_ONLY (4.3 points) BODY: Offers a limited time offer > > > >SPAM: EXCUSE_1 (2.3 points) BODY: Gives a lame excuse about > > why > > > >you were sent this SPAM > > > >SPAM: LINES_OF_YELLING (-0.0 points) BODY: A WHOLE LINE OF YELLING > > DETECTED > > > >SPAM: > > > >SPAM: --------------------- End of Spamnix Spam Report > > --------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > Dustin Puryear > > > Puryear Information Technology > > > Windows, UNIX, and IT Consulting > > > http://www.puryear-it.com > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Admin mailing list > > > Admin@brlug.net > > > http://oxygen.nocdirect.com/mailman/listinfo/admin_brlug.net > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Admin mailing list > >Admin@brlug.net > >http://oxygen.nocdirect.com/mailman/listinfo/admin_brlug.net > > > > > > > > > > > >SPAM: ------------------------ Spamnix Spam Report ------------------------- > >SPAM: Spamnix identified this message as spam. This report shows which > >SPAM: rules matched the message and how many points each rule contributed. > >SPAM: > >SPAM: Content analysis details: (7.6 hits, 5 required) > >SPAM: IN_REP_TO (-3.4 points) Found a In-Reply-To header > >SPAM: X_ANTIABUSE (2.4 points) Found a X-AntiAbuse header > >SPAM: PLING_PLING (0.8 points) Subject has lots of exclamation marks > >SPAM: PLING (0.1 points) Subject has an exclamation mark > >SPAM: LIMITED_TIME_ONLY (4.3 points) BODY: Offers a limited time offer > >SPAM: EXCUSE_1 (2.3 points) BODY: Gives a lame excuse about why > >you were sent this SPAM > >SPAM: DOUBLE_CAPSWORD (1.1 points) BODY: A word in all caps repeated > >on the line > >SPAM: > >SPAM: --------------------- End of Spamnix Spam Report --------------------- > > > > > --- > Dustin Puryear > Puryear Information Technology > Windows, UNIX, and IT Consulting > http://www.puryear-it.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Admin mailing list > Admin@brlug.net > http://oxygen.nocdirect.com/mailman/listinfo/admin_brlug.net From Admin@brlug.net Mon Feb 3 17:18:05 2003 From: Admin@brlug.net (Tim Fournet) Date: 03 Feb 2003 11:18:05 -0600 Subject: [Admin] Fwd: Re: [brlug-general] Linux Classes - Curriculum/Focus In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20030203093643.05e30528@mail.puryear-it.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030201112858.05d9dbe8@pop.netaddress.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20030201112858.05d9dbe8@pop.netaddress.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20030203093643.05e30528@mail.puryear-it.com> Message-ID: <1044292688.18940.147.camel@psyche.ldaf.state.la.us> Sounds great. The guy I contacted about Apple is also willing to do a presentation, but he'd like to attend a meeting first. I'm not sure if the newbies meeting is the right place to do this. I'd like to see a list of presentation requests that potential presenters can choose from to present on. That might make it a little more interesting for both sides. It'll take the stress of finding a topic from the presenter, and the attendees will get to see a topic they have an interest in. Nominations/voting on topics might be cool -Tim On Mon, 2003-02-03 at 09:40, Dustin Puryear wrote: > I can reschedule meetings at Bluebonnet if we have enough notice. We can > also do meetings at LSU, but then there is the parking issue. Thoughts? > Also, before resuming the more technical classes I would like to see at > least three meetings planned ahead. We pretty much stopped the technical > meetings because they were being held by the same one or two people in > general over and over and over. After a few years that gets old. > > Let's try to schedule a few meetings in advance. Hopefully each meeting > will have a different speaker. We can hopefully pull from LSU, Lafeyette, > local businesses, and (much less likely based on history) LUG members. > Internally, the following people can be expected to make presentations: > Dustin, Tim, John H., Doug, and Ricky. That is at least a five month > rotation if nothing else. > > Finally, Accent Consulting is willing to sponsor our next meeting. > > PS I CC'd Ricky as he is off-list. > > At 09:24 AM 2/3/2003 -0600, you wrote: > > >I have the same feeling. However the subject matter of this particular > >curriculum makes me feel a little better about it, mainly for the reason > >that it has been mostly Clickers-type users who have bee asking for this > >particular subject matter. It seems that most of the non-Clicker BRLUG > >members have been more interested in a bottom-up approach to learning > >Linux. If these particular classes were more technically-oriented, then > >I would probably have big reservations about hosting them at Clickers. > > > >On a semi-related note, I'd like to start thinking about how we're going > >to resume the more technical meetings. Do we have a venue? I'd also like > >to get LSU students more involved. We've got SuperMike right here, and > >the LUG has yet to see it! :) > > > >-Tim > > > >On Sat, 2003-02-01 at 11:31, Dustin Puryear wrote: > > > All of the suggestions made by Sue sound great. However, I am concerned > > > that LUG members will get bumped out of LUG-taught classes as Clickers > > > members have preference. Is this an issue for anyone here? I know that > > > John, Tim, and Doug were going to be spearheading this, so it's up to you > > > how to handle it. Something we should discuss though. > > > > > > One solution may be to have a six or maybe even three month cycle to the > > > classes. The LUG will offer them to the Clickers, but the classes will > > > always be open to both Clickers and non-paying LUG members. Clickers can > > > have preference, but since we repeat classes every six months LUG members > > > will always have a chance of getting in. > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Admin mailing list > >Admin@brlug.net > >http://oxygen.nocdirect.com/mailman/listinfo/admin_brlug.net > > > --- > Dustin Puryear > Puryear Information Technology > Windows, UNIX, and IT Consulting > http://www.puryear-it.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Admin mailing list > Admin@brlug.net > http://oxygen.nocdirect.com/mailman/listinfo/admin_brlug.net From Admin@brlug.net Mon Feb 3 17:16:17 2003 From: Admin@brlug.net (Dustin Puryear) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 11:16:17 -0600 Subject: [Admin] [Fwd: The Perfect Pair: the Hot New Xandros Desktop Standard Edition and Win4Lin!!!] In-Reply-To: <1044292338.18946.143.camel@psyche.ldaf.state.la.us> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030203092427.05e30528@mail.puryear-it.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20030131165028.01f50718@mail.puryear-it.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20030131165028.01f50718@mail.puryear-it.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20030203092427.05e30528@mail.puryear-it.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030203111534.05e60070@mail.puryear-it.com> Also, as far as only promoting open source software, I'll admit that I could care less what people send us. If VMWare decides to send us three free licenses then that would be great. Ditto for three free CDs from Red Hat. At 11:12 AM 2/3/2003 -0600, you wrote: >In that case, forwarding the emails to the appropriate list(s) is >sufficient, IMO. > >-Tim > > >On Mon, 2003-02-03 at 09:24, Dustin Puryear wrote: > > I meant that they sent us a promo offer specifically for the LUG. I > thought > > I forwarded that as well to admin. > > > > At 09:15 PM 2/2/2003 -0600, you wrote: > > > > >Whoa now, this is not a LUG deal, it's a general promotion to anyone > > >who's signed up at Win4Lin. Anyway, I really don't want anything to do > > >with promoting closed-source software, even if it is for Linux. > > > > > > > > >On Fri, 2003-01-31 at 16:51, Dustin Puryear wrote: > > > > Yeah, I got a promo from them a while ago. Guess what? You are > assigned to > > > > this. I will forward the original promo to you. When signing up you can > > > > certainly fill in your details, but use promo@brlug.net for the email > > > > address. This way we will always have the emails even if you decide to > > > > later on move to NYC without notice. > > > > > > > > At 08:29 AM 1/31/2003 -0600, you wrote: > > > > > > > > >Just got this from Win4Lin people... > > > > > > > > > >-----Forwarded Message----- > > > > > > > > > >From: special@netraverse.com > > > > >To: Tim Fournet > > > > >Subject: The Perfect Pair: the Hot New Xandros Desktop Standard > Edition > > > > >and Win4Lin!!! > > > > >Date: 30 Jan 2003 23:22:12 -0500 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Hello Win4Lin supporter, > > > > > > > > > >As you have probably heard, NeTraverse and Xandros have formed a > strategic > > > > >partnership to bring the full range of Windows applications to the > > > > >award-winning Xandros Desktop. Working together with the NeTraverse > > > > >engineers, we: > > > > > > > > > > * Enhanced kernel support for Win4Lin > > > > > * Cut Win4Lin install time! > > > > > > > > > >Now, with the release of Xandros Desktop Standard Edition, this > "perfect > > > > >pair" is more affordable that ever! > > > > > > > > > >Xandros Desktop Standard includes: > > > > > > > > > > * The Xandros Installer > > > > > * The Xandros Enhanced Desktop > > > > > * Xandros File Manager > > > > > * The Mozilla web suite > > > > > * The OpenOffice.org productivity suite > > > > > * Xandros Networks Updates > > > > > * Xandros User Forum support > > > > > > > > > >At a special introductory price of $39.95 US, the Xandros Desktop > Standard > > > > >Edition is an irresistible bargain! Please head over to the Xandros > > > store at > > > > >http://shop.xandros.com and grab a copy today. (Sorry, we don't gift > > > wrap.) > > > > > > > > > >The original Xandros Desktop -- now called Xandros Desktop Deluxe -- > > > is also > > > > >available to Win4Lin customers at a special introductory price. > The Deluxe > > > > >Edition gives you all the benefits of the Standard Xandros > Desktop, plus > > > > >Windows productivity tools, the printed user guide, and a Technology > > > Preview > > > > >CD. The Deluxe install program can also grab space from a Windows NTFS > > > > >partition (though you still can reallocate space from a FAT, VFAT, or > > > FAT32 > > > > >partition with the Standard Edition), and you get 30-day e-mail > > > installation > > > > >support, as opposed to one incident with Xandros Desktop Standard. > > > > > > > > > >To help encourage Win4Lin users to experience all the benefits of > Xandros > > > > >Desktop Deluxe, Xandros is pleased to announce their Win4Lin Special > > > Offer. > > > > >For a limited time only, until February 28, 2003, Xandros will be > offering > > > > >the Xandros Desktop Deluxe for $79.00. This is $20 off the retail > price! > > > > > > > > > >To take advantage of this special offer, go to the Xandros store at: > > > > > > > > > >http://shop.xandros.com/product_info.php?products_id=30 > > > > > > > > > >When placing your order, enter the following discount coupon number: > > > > > > > > > > c8afe0179c1d > > > > > > > > > >Xandros will automatically calculate your cost based on this special > > > Win4Lin > > > > >offer. > > > > > > > > > >For more details on Xandros Desktop Standard and Deluxe Editions, > please > > > > >visit http://www.xandros.com. > > > > > > > > > >What are people saying about the award-winning Xandros Desktop? > > > > > > > > > >ABOUT XANDROS DESKTOP > > > > > > > > > >PC World Norway, Product of the Year! > > > > > > > > > >"Xandros Desktop OS 1.0 ... is the first Linux distribution that > has the > > > > >user-friendliness of Windows, creating a smooth path into the > Linux world > > > > >for Windows users, as well as giving Linux users easy access to > Windows > > > > >networks. Xandros Desktop OS 1.0 helps make the transition from > Windows to > > > > >Linux a simple and painless effort." > > > > > > > > > >PC Magazine Netherlands, Editor's Choice award in the "Click and Run" > > > > >category of Linux distros. > > > > > > > > > >"Xandros does something that no other Linux distribution was able to > > > do: it > > > > >set the 3D-accelleration of our NVidia graphics adapter without > having to > > > > >compile a kernel or even install a driver. We were able to run > TuXRacer > > > > >without any problems. That's the way it should work in all Linux > > > > >distributions." > > > > > > > > > >DistroWatch.com - Review of Xandros Desktop 1.0 > > > > > > > > > >"[The Xandros Desktop] shows what can be done when developers > focus on end > > > > >users and their needs rather than assuming that everyone is a geek." > > > > > > > > > >NewsForge - "It just works," even with Windows stuff > > > > > > > > > >"Xandros seems to be what Lindows could have been if it had stayed > true to > > > > >its Linux roots, both product-wise and philosophically. I like > Xandros; I > > > > >like the ease of use combined with common-sense security options and > > > > >configurability; I > > > > >like that it reaches out to Windows users without alienating the Linux > > > > >community; it may just end up becoming the main distribution in my > house." > > > > > > > > > >ExtremeTech - Another Winning Linux Distro > > > > > > > > > >"Xandros is fine desktop OS choice. It feels less commercial than > Lindows > > > > >and comes with more software. We expect great things from Xandros > as its > > > > >product matures and grows." > > > > > > > > > >To learn more about the Xandros Desktop, please visit our web site at: > > > > > > > > > >http://www.xandros.com/ > > > > > > > > > >Thank you -- we look forward to serving the NeTraverse community. > > > > > > > > > >Sincerely, > > > > > > > > > >The Xandros Team > > > > > > > > > >Unsubscribe Information: > > > > > > > > > >You are receiving this email because you created a member account at > > > > >NeTraverse's website. 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This report shows > which > > > > >SPAM: rules matched the message and how many points each rule > contributed. > > > > >SPAM: > > > > >SPAM: Content analysis details: (9.9 hits, 5 required) > > > > >SPAM: X_ANTIABUSE (2.4 points) Found a X-AntiAbuse header > > > > >SPAM: PLING_PLING (0.8 points) Subject has lots of > exclamation > > > marks > > > > >SPAM: PLING (0.1 points) Subject has an exclamation mark > > > > >SPAM: LIMITED_TIME_ONLY (4.3 points) BODY: Offers a limited time > offer > > > > >SPAM: EXCUSE_1 (2.3 points) BODY: Gives a lame excuse > about > > > why > > > > >you were sent this SPAM > > > > >SPAM: LINES_OF_YELLING (-0.0 points) BODY: A WHOLE LINE OF YELLING > > > DETECTED > > > > >SPAM: > > > > >SPAM: --------------------- End of Spamnix Spam Report > > > --------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > Dustin Puryear > > > > Puryear Information Technology > > > > Windows, UNIX, and IT Consulting > > > > http://www.puryear-it.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Admin mailing list > > > > Admin@brlug.net > > > > http://oxygen.nocdirect.com/mailman/listinfo/admin_brlug.net > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Admin mailing list > > >Admin@brlug.net > > >http://oxygen.nocdirect.com/mailman/listinfo/admin_brlug.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >SPAM: ------------------------ Spamnix Spam Report > ------------------------- > > >SPAM: Spamnix identified this message as spam. This report shows which > > >SPAM: rules matched the message and how many points each rule contributed. > > >SPAM: > > >SPAM: Content analysis details: (7.6 hits, 5 required) > > >SPAM: IN_REP_TO (-3.4 points) Found a In-Reply-To header > > >SPAM: X_ANTIABUSE (2.4 points) Found a X-AntiAbuse header > > >SPAM: PLING_PLING (0.8 points) Subject has lots of exclamation > marks > > >SPAM: PLING (0.1 points) Subject has an exclamation mark > > >SPAM: LIMITED_TIME_ONLY (4.3 points) BODY: Offers a limited time offer > > >SPAM: EXCUSE_1 (2.3 points) BODY: Gives a lame excuse about > why > > >you were sent this SPAM > > >SPAM: DOUBLE_CAPSWORD (1.1 points) BODY: A word in all caps repeated > > >on the line > > >SPAM: > > >SPAM: --------------------- End of Spamnix Spam Report > --------------------- > > > > > > > > > --- > > Dustin Puryear > > Puryear Information Technology > > Windows, UNIX, and IT Consulting > > http://www.puryear-it.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Admin mailing list > > Admin@brlug.net > > http://oxygen.nocdirect.com/mailman/listinfo/admin_brlug.net > > > >_______________________________________________ >Admin mailing list >Admin@brlug.net >http://oxygen.nocdirect.com/mailman/listinfo/admin_brlug.net > > > > > >SPAM: ------------------------ Spamnix Spam Report ------------------------- >SPAM: Spamnix identified this message as spam. This report shows which >SPAM: rules matched the message and how many points each rule contributed. >SPAM: >SPAM: Content analysis details: (7.6 hits, 5 required) >SPAM: IN_REP_TO (-3.4 points) Found a In-Reply-To header >SPAM: X_ANTIABUSE (2.4 points) Found a X-AntiAbuse header >SPAM: PLING_PLING (0.8 points) Subject has lots of exclamation marks >SPAM: PLING (0.1 points) Subject has an exclamation mark >SPAM: LIMITED_TIME_ONLY (4.3 points) BODY: Offers a limited time offer >SPAM: EXCUSE_1 (2.3 points) BODY: Gives a lame excuse about why >you were sent this SPAM >SPAM: DOUBLE_CAPSWORD (1.1 points) BODY: A word in all caps repeated >on the line >SPAM: >SPAM: --------------------- End of Spamnix Spam Report --------------------- > --- Dustin Puryear Puryear Information Technology Windows, UNIX, and IT Consulting http://www.puryear-it.com From Admin@brlug.net Mon Feb 3 17:25:46 2003 From: Admin@brlug.net (Dustin Puryear) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 11:25:46 -0600 Subject: [Admin] Fwd: Re: [brlug-general] Linux Classes - Curriculum/Focus In-Reply-To: <1044292688.18940.147.camel@psyche.ldaf.state.la.us> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030203093643.05e30528@mail.puryear-it.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20030201112858.05d9dbe8@pop.netaddress.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20030201112858.05d9dbe8@pop.netaddress.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20030203093643.05e30528@mail.puryear-it.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030203112523.05e30528@mail.puryear-it.com> We have a pretty long laundry list in the archives somewhere. I think we came up with like ten topics early last year. At 11:18 AM 2/3/2003 -0600, you wrote: >Sounds great. The guy I contacted about Apple is also willing to do a >presentation, but he'd like to attend a meeting first. I'm not sure if >the newbies meeting is the right place to do this. I'd like to see a >list of presentation requests that potential presenters can choose from >to present on. That might make it a little more interesting for both >sides. It'll take the stress of finding a topic from the presenter, and >the attendees will get to see a topic they have an interest in. >Nominations/voting on topics might be cool >-Tim > > >On Mon, 2003-02-03 at 09:40, Dustin Puryear wrote: > > I can reschedule meetings at Bluebonnet if we have enough notice. We can > > also do meetings at LSU, but then there is the parking issue. Thoughts? > > Also, before resuming the more technical classes I would like to see at > > least three meetings planned ahead. We pretty much stopped the technical > > meetings because they were being held by the same one or two people in > > general over and over and over. After a few years that gets old. > > > > Let's try to schedule a few meetings in advance. Hopefully each meeting > > will have a different speaker. We can hopefully pull from LSU, Lafeyette, > > local businesses, and (much less likely based on history) LUG members. > > Internally, the following people can be expected to make presentations: > > Dustin, Tim, John H., Doug, and Ricky. That is at least a five month > > rotation if nothing else. > > > > Finally, Accent Consulting is willing to sponsor our next meeting. > > > > PS I CC'd Ricky as he is off-list. > > > > At 09:24 AM 2/3/2003 -0600, you wrote: > > > > >I have the same feeling. However the subject matter of this particular > > >curriculum makes me feel a little better about it, mainly for the reason > > >that it has been mostly Clickers-type users who have bee asking for this > > >particular subject matter. It seems that most of the non-Clicker BRLUG > > >members have been more interested in a bottom-up approach to learning > > >Linux. If these particular classes were more technically-oriented, then > > >I would probably have big reservations about hosting them at Clickers. > > > > > >On a semi-related note, I'd like to start thinking about how we're going > > >to resume the more technical meetings. Do we have a venue? I'd also like > > >to get LSU students more involved. We've got SuperMike right here, and > > >the LUG has yet to see it! :) > > > > > >-Tim > > > > > >On Sat, 2003-02-01 at 11:31, Dustin Puryear wrote: > > > > All of the suggestions made by Sue sound great. However, I am concerned > > > > that LUG members will get bumped out of LUG-taught classes as Clickers > > > > members have preference. Is this an issue for anyone here? I know that > > > > John, Tim, and Doug were going to be spearheading this, so it's up > to you > > > > how to handle it. Something we should discuss though. > > > > > > > > One solution may be to have a six or maybe even three month cycle > to the > > > > classes. The LUG will offer them to the Clickers, but the classes will > > > > always be open to both Clickers and non-paying LUG members. > Clickers can > > > > have preference, but since we repeat classes every six months LUG > members > > > > will always have a chance of getting in. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Admin mailing list > > >Admin@brlug.net > > >http://oxygen.nocdirect.com/mailman/listinfo/admin_brlug.net > > > > > > --- > > Dustin Puryear > > Puryear Information Technology > > Windows, UNIX, and IT Consulting > > http://www.puryear-it.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Admin mailing list > > Admin@brlug.net > > http://oxygen.nocdirect.com/mailman/listinfo/admin_brlug.net > > > >_______________________________________________ >Admin mailing list >Admin@brlug.net >http://oxygen.nocdirect.com/mailman/listinfo/admin_brlug.net --- Dustin Puryear Puryear Information Technology Windows, UNIX, and IT Consulting http://www.puryear-it.com From Admin@brlug.net Mon Feb 3 17:36:35 2003 From: Admin@brlug.net (Tim Fournet) Date: 03 Feb 2003 11:36:35 -0600 Subject: [Admin] [Fwd: The Perfect Pair: the Hot New Xandros Desktop Standard Edition and Win4Lin!!!] In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20030203111534.05e60070@mail.puryear-it.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030203092427.05e30528@mail.puryear-it.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20030131165028.01f50718@mail.puryear-it.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20030131165028.01f50718@mail.puryear-it.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20030203092427.05e30528@mail.puryear-it.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20030203111534.05e60070@mail.puryear-it.com> Message-ID: <1044293799.18946.150.camel@psyche.ldaf.state.la.us> By "promote", I mean "put extra effort into" :P Passing on CDs or licenses is acceptable, but not to the point of becoming a free marketing drone for a company that doesn't open their source. -Tim On Mon, 2003-02-03 at 11:16, Dustin Puryear wrote: > Also, as far as only promoting open source software, I'll admit that I > could care less what people send us. If VMWare decides to send us three > free licenses then that would be great. Ditto for three free CDs from Red Hat. > > At 11:12 AM 2/3/2003 -0600, you wrote: > > >In that case, forwarding the emails to the appropriate list(s) is > >sufficient, IMO. > > > >-Tim > > > > > >On Mon, 2003-02-03 at 09:24, Dustin Puryear wrote: > > > I meant that they sent us a promo offer specifically for the LUG. I > > thought > > > I forwarded that as well to admin. > > > > > > At 09:15 PM 2/2/2003 -0600, you wrote: > > > > > > >Whoa now, this is not a LUG deal, it's a general promotion to anyone > > > >who's signed up at Win4Lin. Anyway, I really don't want anything to do > > > >with promoting closed-source software, even if it is for Linux. > > > > > > > > > > > >On Fri, 2003-01-31 at 16:51, Dustin Puryear wrote: > > > > > Yeah, I got a promo from them a while ago. Guess what? You are > > assigned to > > > > > this. I will forward the original promo to you. When signing up you can > > > > > certainly fill in your details, but use promo@brlug.net for the email > > > > > address. This way we will always have the emails even if you decide to > > > > > later on move to NYC without notice. > > > > > > > > > > At 08:29 AM 1/31/2003 -0600, you wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >Just got this from Win4Lin people... > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Forwarded Message----- > > > > > > > > > > > >From: special@netraverse.com > > > > > >To: Tim Fournet > > > > > >Subject: The Perfect Pair: the Hot New Xandros Desktop Standard > > Edition > > > > > >and Win4Lin!!! > > > > > >Date: 30 Jan 2003 23:22:12 -0500 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Hello Win4Lin supporter, > > > > > > > > > > > >As you have probably heard, NeTraverse and Xandros have formed a > > strategic > > > > > >partnership to bring the full range of Windows applications to the > > > > > >award-winning Xandros Desktop. Working together with the NeTraverse > > > > > >engineers, we: > > > > > > > > > > > > * Enhanced kernel support for Win4Lin > > > > > > * Cut Win4Lin install time! > > > > > > > > > > > >Now, with the release of Xandros Desktop Standard Edition, this > > "perfect > > > > > >pair" is more affordable that ever! > > > > > > > > > > > >Xandros Desktop Standard includes: > > > > > > > > > > > > * The Xandros Installer > > > > > > * The Xandros Enhanced Desktop > > > > > > * Xandros File Manager > > > > > > * The Mozilla web suite > > > > > > * The OpenOffice.org productivity suite > > > > > > * Xandros Networks Updates > > > > > > * Xandros User Forum support > > > > > > > > > > > >At a special introductory price of $39.95 US, the Xandros Desktop > > Standard > > > > > >Edition is an irresistible bargain! Please head over to the Xandros > > > > store at > > > > > >http://shop.xandros.com and grab a copy today. (Sorry, we don't gift > > > > wrap.) > > > > > > > > > > > >The original Xandros Desktop -- now called Xandros Desktop Deluxe -- > > > > is also > > > > > >available to Win4Lin customers at a special introductory price. > > The Deluxe > > > > > >Edition gives you all the benefits of the Standard Xandros > > Desktop, plus > > > > > >Windows productivity tools, the printed user guide, and a Technology > > > > Preview > > > > > >CD. The Deluxe install program can also grab space from a Windows NTFS > > > > > >partition (though you still can reallocate space from a FAT, VFAT, or > > > > FAT32 > > > > > >partition with the Standard Edition), and you get 30-day e-mail > > > > installation > > > > > >support, as opposed to one incident with Xandros Desktop Standard. > > > > > > > > > > > >To help encourage Win4Lin users to experience all the benefits of > > Xandros > > > > > >Desktop Deluxe, Xandros is pleased to announce their Win4Lin Special > > > > Offer. > > > > > >For a limited time only, until February 28, 2003, Xandros will be > > offering > > > > > >the Xandros Desktop Deluxe for $79.00. This is $20 off the retail > > price! > > > > > > > > > > > >To take advantage of this special offer, go to the Xandros store at: > > > > > > > > > > > >http://shop.xandros.com/product_info.php?products_id=30 > > > > > > > > > > > >When placing your order, enter the following discount coupon number: > > > > > > > > > > > > c8afe0179c1d > > > > > > > > > > > >Xandros will automatically calculate your cost based on this special > > > > Win4Lin > > > > > >offer. > > > > > > > > > > > >For more details on Xandros Desktop Standard and Deluxe Editions, > > please > > > > > >visit http://www.xandros.com. > > > > > > > > > > > >What are people saying about the award-winning Xandros Desktop? > > > > > > > > > > > >ABOUT XANDROS DESKTOP > > > > > > > > > > > >PC World Norway, Product of the Year! > > > > > > > > > > > >"Xandros Desktop OS 1.0 ... is the first Linux distribution that > > has the > > > > > >user-friendliness of Windows, creating a smooth path into the > > Linux world > > > > > >for Windows users, as well as giving Linux users easy access to > > Windows > > > > > >networks. Xandros Desktop OS 1.0 helps make the transition from > > Windows to > > > > > >Linux a simple and painless effort." > > > > > > > > > > > >PC Magazine Netherlands, Editor's Choice award in the "Click and Run" > > > > > >category of Linux distros. > > > > > > > > > > > >"Xandros does something that no other Linux distribution was able to > > > > do: it > > > > > >set the 3D-accelleration of our NVidia graphics adapter without > > having to > > > > > >compile a kernel or even install a driver. We were able to run > > TuXRacer > > > > > >without any problems. That's the way it should work in all Linux > > > > > >distributions." > > > > > > > > > > > >DistroWatch.com - Review of Xandros Desktop 1.0 > > > > > > > > > > > >"[The Xandros Desktop] shows what can be done when developers > > focus on end > > > > > >users and their needs rather than assuming that everyone is a geek." > > > > > > > > > > > >NewsForge - "It just works," even with Windows stuff > > > > > > > > > > > >"Xandros seems to be what Lindows could have been if it had stayed > > true to > > > > > >its Linux roots, both product-wise and philosophically. I like > > Xandros; I > > > > > >like the ease of use combined with common-sense security options and > > > > > >configurability; I > > > > > >like that it reaches out to Windows users without alienating the Linux > > > > > >community; it may just end up becoming the main distribution in my > > house." > > > > > > > > > > > >ExtremeTech - Another Winning Linux Distro > > > > > > > > > > > >"Xandros is fine desktop OS choice. It feels less commercial than > > Lindows > > > > > >and comes with more software. We expect great things from Xandros > > as its > > > > > >product matures and grows." > > > > > > > > > > > >To learn more about the Xandros Desktop, please visit our web site at: > > > > > > > > > > > >http://www.xandros.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > >Thank you -- we look forward to serving the NeTraverse community. > > > > > > > > > > > >Sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > >The Xandros Team > > > > > > > > > > > >Unsubscribe Information: > > > > > > > > > > > >You are receiving this email because you created a member account at > > > > > >NeTraverse's website. If you would like to be excluded from future > > > > mailings > > > > > >please log in and choose not to receive mail from NeTraverse and its > > > > > >partners on your account profile at: > > > > > >https://www.netraverse.com/member/login.php?action=UpdateReg . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > > > >Admin mailing list > > > > > >Admin@brlug.net > > > > > >http://oxygen.nocdirect.com/mailman/listinfo/admin_brlug.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >SPAM: ------------------------ Spamnix Spam Report > > > > ------------------------- > > > > > >SPAM: Spamnix identified this message as spam. This report shows > > which > > > > > >SPAM: rules matched the message and how many points each rule > > contributed. > > > > > >SPAM: > > > > > >SPAM: Content analysis details: (9.9 hits, 5 required) > > > > > >SPAM: X_ANTIABUSE (2.4 points) Found a X-AntiAbuse header > > > > > >SPAM: PLING_PLING (0.8 points) Subject has lots of > > exclamation > > > > marks > > > > > >SPAM: PLING (0.1 points) Subject has an exclamation mark > > > > > >SPAM: LIMITED_TIME_ONLY (4.3 points) BODY: Offers a limited time > > offer > > > > > >SPAM: EXCUSE_1 (2.3 points) BODY: Gives a lame excuse > > about > > > > why > > > > > >you were sent this SPAM > > > > > >SPAM: LINES_OF_YELLING (-0.0 points) BODY: A WHOLE LINE OF YELLING > > > > DETECTED > > > > > >SPAM: > > > > > >SPAM: --------------------- End of Spamnix Spam Report > > > > --------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > > Dustin Puryear > > > > > Puryear Information Technology > > > > > Windows, UNIX, and IT Consulting > > > > > http://www.puryear-it.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Admin mailing list > > > > > Admin@brlug.net > > > > > http://oxygen.nocdirect.com/mailman/listinfo/admin_brlug.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > >Admin mailing list > > > >Admin@brlug.net > > > >http://oxygen.nocdirect.com/mailman/listinfo/admin_brlug.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >SPAM: ------------------------ Spamnix Spam Report > > ------------------------- > > > >SPAM: Spamnix identified this message as spam. This report shows which > > > >SPAM: rules matched the message and how many points each rule contributed. > > > >SPAM: > > > >SPAM: Content analysis details: (7.6 hits, 5 required) > > > >SPAM: IN_REP_TO (-3.4 points) Found a In-Reply-To header > > > >SPAM: X_ANTIABUSE (2.4 points) Found a X-AntiAbuse header > > > >SPAM: PLING_PLING (0.8 points) Subject has lots of exclamation > > marks > > > >SPAM: PLING (0.1 points) Subject has an exclamation mark > > > >SPAM: LIMITED_TIME_ONLY (4.3 points) BODY: Offers a limited time offer > > > >SPAM: EXCUSE_1 (2.3 points) BODY: Gives a lame excuse about > > why > > > >you were sent this SPAM > > > >SPAM: DOUBLE_CAPSWORD (1.1 points) BODY: A word in all caps repeated > > > >on the line > > > >SPAM: > > > >SPAM: --------------------- End of Spamnix Spam Report > > --------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > Dustin Puryear > > > Puryear Information Technology > > > Windows, UNIX, and IT Consulting > > > http://www.puryear-it.com > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Admin mailing list > > > Admin@brlug.net > > > http://oxygen.nocdirect.com/mailman/listinfo/admin_brlug.net > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Admin mailing list > >Admin@brlug.net > >http://oxygen.nocdirect.com/mailman/listinfo/admin_brlug.net > > > > > > > > > > > >SPAM: ------------------------ Spamnix Spam Report ------------------------- > >SPAM: Spamnix identified this message as spam. This report shows which > >SPAM: rules matched the message and how many points each rule contributed. > >SPAM: > >SPAM: Content analysis details: (7.6 hits, 5 required) > >SPAM: IN_REP_TO (-3.4 points) Found a In-Reply-To header > >SPAM: X_ANTIABUSE (2.4 points) Found a X-AntiAbuse header > >SPAM: PLING_PLING (0.8 points) Subject has lots of exclamation marks > >SPAM: PLING (0.1 points) Subject has an exclamation mark > >SPAM: LIMITED_TIME_ONLY (4.3 points) BODY: Offers a limited time offer > >SPAM: EXCUSE_1 (2.3 points) BODY: Gives a lame excuse about why > >you were sent this SPAM > >SPAM: DOUBLE_CAPSWORD (1.1 points) BODY: A word in all caps repeated > >on the line > >SPAM: > >SPAM: --------------------- End of Spamnix Spam Report --------------------- > > > > > --- > Dustin Puryear > Puryear Information Technology > Windows, UNIX, and IT Consulting > http://www.puryear-it.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Admin mailing list > Admin@brlug.net > http://oxygen.nocdirect.com/mailman/listinfo/admin_brlug.net From Admin@brlug.net Mon Feb 3 17:38:38 2003 From: Admin@brlug.net (Dustin Puryear) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 11:38:38 -0600 Subject: [Admin] [Fwd: The Perfect Pair: the Hot New Xandros Desktop Standard Edition and Win4Lin!!!] In-Reply-To: <1044293799.18946.150.camel@psyche.ldaf.state.la.us> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030203111534.05e60070@mail.puryear-it.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20030203092427.05e30528@mail.puryear-it.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20030131165028.01f50718@mail.puryear-it.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20030131165028.01f50718@mail.puryear-it.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20030203092427.05e30528@mail.puryear-it.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20030203111534.05e60070@mail.puryear-it.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030203113810.05d9ccd8@mail.puryear-it.com> Well, yeah. By "promote" I meant "Give away free stuff." :) At 11:36 AM 2/3/2003 -0600, you wrote: >By "promote", I mean "put extra effort into" :P >Passing on CDs or licenses is acceptable, but not to the point of >becoming a free marketing drone for a company that doesn't open their >source. > >-Tim > > >On Mon, 2003-02-03 at 11:16, Dustin Puryear wrote: > > Also, as far as only promoting open source software, I'll admit that I > > could care less what people send us. If VMWare decides to send us three > > free licenses then that would be great. Ditto for three free CDs from > Red Hat. > > > > At 11:12 AM 2/3/2003 -0600, you wrote: > > > > >In that case, forwarding the emails to the appropriate list(s) is > > >sufficient, IMO. > > > > > >-Tim > > > > > > > > >On Mon, 2003-02-03 at 09:24, Dustin Puryear wrote: > > > > I meant that they sent us a promo offer specifically for the LUG. I > > > thought > > > > I forwarded that as well to admin. > > > > > > > > At 09:15 PM 2/2/2003 -0600, you wrote: > > > > > > > > >Whoa now, this is not a LUG deal, it's a general promotion to anyone > > > > >who's signed up at Win4Lin. Anyway, I really don't want anything to do > > > > >with promoting closed-source software, even if it is for Linux. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >On Fri, 2003-01-31 at 16:51, Dustin Puryear wrote: > > > > > > Yeah, I got a promo from them a while ago. Guess what? You are > > > assigned to > > > > > > this. I will forward the original promo to you. When signing up > you can > > > > > > certainly fill in your details, but use promo@brlug.net for the > email > > > > > > address. This way we will always have the emails even if you > decide to > > > > > > later on move to NYC without notice. > > > > > > > > > > > > At 08:29 AM 1/31/2003 -0600, you wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > >Just got this from Win4Lin people... > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Forwarded Message----- > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: special@netraverse.com > > > > > > >To: Tim Fournet > > > > > > >Subject: The Perfect Pair: the Hot New Xandros Desktop Standard > > > Edition > > > > > > >and Win4Lin!!! > > > > > > >Date: 30 Jan 2003 23:22:12 -0500 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Hello Win4Lin supporter, > > > > > > > > > > > > > >As you have probably heard, NeTraverse and Xandros have formed a > > > strategic > > > > > > >partnership to bring the full range of Windows applications to the > > > > > > >award-winning Xandros Desktop. 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That's the way it should work in all Linux > > > > > > >distributions." > > > > > > > > > > > > > >DistroWatch.com - Review of Xandros Desktop 1.0 > > > > > > > > > > > > > >"[The Xandros Desktop] shows what can be done when developers > > > focus on end > > > > > > >users and their needs rather than assuming that everyone is a > geek." > > > > > > > > > > > > > >NewsForge - "It just works," even with Windows stuff > > > > > > > > > > > > > >"Xandros seems to be what Lindows could have been if it had > stayed > > > true to > > > > > > >its Linux roots, both product-wise and philosophically. I like > > > Xandros; I > > > > > > >like the ease of use combined with common-sense security > options and > > > > > > >configurability; I > > > > > > >like that it reaches out to Windows users without alienating > the Linux > > > > > > >community; it may just end up becoming the main distribution > in my > > > house." > > > > > > > > > > > > > >ExtremeTech - Another Winning Linux Distro > > > > > > > > > > > > > >"Xandros is fine desktop OS choice. It feels less commercial than > > > Lindows > > > > > > >and comes with more software. 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This report shows which > > >SPAM: rules matched the message and how many points each rule contributed. > > >SPAM: > > >SPAM: Content analysis details: (7.6 hits, 5 required) > > >SPAM: IN_REP_TO (-3.4 points) Found a In-Reply-To header > > >SPAM: X_ANTIABUSE (2.4 points) Found a X-AntiAbuse header > > >SPAM: PLING_PLING (0.8 points) Subject has lots of exclamation > marks > > >SPAM: PLING (0.1 points) Subject has an exclamation mark > > >SPAM: LIMITED_TIME_ONLY (4.3 points) BODY: Offers a limited time offer > > >SPAM: EXCUSE_1 (2.3 points) BODY: Gives a lame excuse about > why > > >you were sent this SPAM > > >SPAM: DOUBLE_CAPSWORD (1.1 points) BODY: A word in all caps repeated > > >on the line > > >SPAM: > > >SPAM: --------------------- End of Spamnix Spam Report > --------------------- > > > > > > > > > --- > > Dustin Puryear > > Puryear Information Technology > > Windows, UNIX, and IT Consulting > > http://www.puryear-it.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Admin mailing list > > Admin@brlug.net > > http://oxygen.nocdirect.com/mailman/listinfo/admin_brlug.net > > > >_______________________________________________ >Admin mailing list >Admin@brlug.net >http://oxygen.nocdirect.com/mailman/listinfo/admin_brlug.net > > > > > >SPAM: ------------------------ Spamnix Spam Report ------------------------- >SPAM: Spamnix identified this message as spam. This report shows which >SPAM: rules matched the message and how many points each rule contributed. >SPAM: >SPAM: Content analysis details: (7.6 hits, 5 required) >SPAM: IN_REP_TO (-3.4 points) Found a In-Reply-To header >SPAM: X_ANTIABUSE (2.4 points) Found a X-AntiAbuse header >SPAM: PLING_PLING (0.8 points) Subject has lots of exclamation marks >SPAM: PLING (0.1 points) Subject has an exclamation mark >SPAM: LIMITED_TIME_ONLY (4.3 points) BODY: Offers a limited time offer >SPAM: EXCUSE_1 (2.3 points) BODY: Gives a lame excuse about why >you were sent this SPAM >SPAM: DOUBLE_CAPSWORD (1.1 points) BODY: A word in all caps repeated >on the line >SPAM: >SPAM: --------------------- End of Spamnix Spam Report --------------------- > --- Dustin Puryear Puryear Information Technology Windows, UNIX, and IT Consulting http://www.puryear-it.com From Admin@brlug.net Sun Feb 16 03:46:14 2003 From: Admin@brlug.net (Dustin Puryear) Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 21:46:14 -0600 Subject: [Admin] re: Recent remarks on the mailing list Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030215214111.02851e20@mail.puryear-it.com> After seeing the issues in the list I think the best solution is to post a monthly guideline to the BRLUG mailing lists. Information included will be things like: 1. People tend to be offended when called "newbies," so try to avoid it. 2. Don't attack people for asking questions! That is what the lists are for. 3. If you have a problem with a post, then contact xyz@brlug.net. ... Thoughts? I spoke with Tim a bit about this on #brlug. I agree with Tim that some posts may be seen as attacks (ie., Abbot's), even when in fact they aren't (ie., again, Abbot's). I think it's BAD policy to call these guys out on this. Only something obviously vulgar should be subject to public rebuke, and only after the situation was discussed offlist with me or the appropriate person. --- Dustin Puryear Puryear Information Technology Windows, UNIX, and IT Consulting http://www.puryear-it.com From Admin@brlug.net Sun Feb 16 23:36:47 2003 From: Admin@brlug.net (John Hebert) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 17:36:47 -0600 Subject: [Admin] re: Recent remarks on the mailing list In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20030215214111.02851e20@mail.puryear-it.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030215214111.02851e20@mail.puryear-it.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 15 Feb 2003 21:46:14 -0600, Dustin Puryear wrote: > After seeing the issues in the list I think the best solution is to post > a monthly guideline to the BRLUG mailing lists. Information included will > be things like: > > 1. People tend to be offended when called "newbies," so try to avoid it. > 2. Don't attack people for asking questions! That is what the lists are > for. > 3. If you have a problem with a post, then contact xyz@brlug.net. "before bringing it up on the mailing list." In order to make #3 crystal clear. > ... > > Thoughts? The above makes sense to me. Your post to general about mailing list policy was right on. > I spoke with Tim a bit about this on #brlug. I agree with Tim that some > posts may be seen as attacks (ie., Abbot's), even when in fact they > aren't (ie., again, Abbot's). I think it's BAD policy to call these guys > out on this. Only something obviously vulgar should be subject to public > rebuke, and only after the situation was discussed offlist with me or the > appropriate person. It's always the flesh part of a network that gives an admin the most problems. ;) My earlier email to you about Tim's statements was only intended to protect newbie feelings. I knew Tim misunderstood the situation, but I didn't want other newbies to feel intimidated, so that's why I seemingly jumped to Tim's defense. Otherwise, Tim is on his own. ;) -- John Hebert System Engineer I T Group, Inc. http://www.it-group.com From Admin@brlug.net Wed Feb 26 23:14:27 2003 From: Admin@brlug.net (Dustin Puryear) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 17:14:27 -0600 Subject: Fwd: Re: [Admin] Fwd: Re: [brlug-general] Linux Classes - Curriculum/Focus Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030226170953.05411ea8@mail.puryear-it.com> Let's go ahead and get this done if everyone wants to startup the general meetings. I propose we only do quarterly or every other month unless we get enough topics and speakers lined up. Here are some possible topics I have in my list: Setting up and using KDE Setting up and using GNOME Setting up and using another X Window System window manager High availability Finance software Beowulf Clusters Using NIS/NFS Kernel Hacking Firewalls Routers Database servers - MySQL, PostgreSQL StarOffice and other prod. Software Games Software development Any other ideas? Chirp up fellas. >Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 11:25:46 -0600 >To: Admin@brlug.net >From: Dustin Puryear >Subject: Re: [Admin] Fwd: Re: [brlug-general] Linux Classes - Curriculum/Focus > >We have a pretty long laundry list in the archives somewhere. I think we >came up with like ten topics early last year. > >At 11:18 AM 2/3/2003 -0600, you wrote: > >>Sounds great. The guy I contacted about Apple is also willing to do a >>presentation, but he'd like to attend a meeting first. I'm not sure if >>the newbies meeting is the right place to do this. I'd like to see a >>list of presentation requests that potential presenters can choose from >>to present on. That might make it a little more interesting for both >>sides. It'll take the stress of finding a topic from the presenter, and >>the attendees will get to see a topic they have an interest in. >>Nominations/voting on topics might be cool >>-Tim >> >> >>On Mon, 2003-02-03 at 09:40, Dustin Puryear wrote: >> > I can reschedule meetings at Bluebonnet if we have enough notice. We can >> > also do meetings at LSU, but then there is the parking issue. Thoughts? >> > Also, before resuming the more technical classes I would like to see at >> > least three meetings planned ahead. We pretty much stopped the technical >> > meetings because they were being held by the same one or two people in >> > general over and over and over. After a few years that gets old. >> > >> > Let's try to schedule a few meetings in advance. Hopefully each meeting >> > will have a different speaker. We can hopefully pull from LSU, Lafeyette, >> > local businesses, and (much less likely based on history) LUG members. >> > Internally, the following people can be expected to make presentations: >> > Dustin, Tim, John H., Doug, and Ricky. That is at least a five month >> > rotation if nothing else. >> > >> > Finally, Accent Consulting is willing to sponsor our next meeting. >> > >> > PS I CC'd Ricky as he is off-list. >> > >> > At 09:24 AM 2/3/2003 -0600, you wrote: >> > >> > >I have the same feeling. However the subject matter of this particular >> > >curriculum makes me feel a little better about it, mainly for the reason >> > >that it has been mostly Clickers-type users who have bee asking for this >> > >particular subject matter. It seems that most of the non-Clicker BRLUG >> > >members have been more interested in a bottom-up approach to learning >> > >Linux. If these particular classes were more technically-oriented, then >> > >I would probably have big reservations about hosting them at Clickers. >> > > >> > >On a semi-related note, I'd like to start thinking about how we're going >> > >to resume the more technical meetings. Do we have a venue? I'd also like >> > >to get LSU students more involved. We've got SuperMike right here, and >> > >the LUG has yet to see it! :) >> > > >> > >-Tim >> > > >> > >On Sat, 2003-02-01 at 11:31, Dustin Puryear wrote: >> > > > All of the suggestions made by Sue sound great. However, I am >> concerned >> > > > that LUG members will get bumped out of LUG-taught classes as Clickers >> > > > members have preference. Is this an issue for anyone here? I know that >> > > > John, Tim, and Doug were going to be spearheading this, so it's up >> to you >> > > > how to handle it. Something we should discuss though. >> > > > >> > > > One solution may be to have a six or maybe even three month cycle >> to the >> > > > classes. The LUG will offer them to the Clickers, but the classes will >> > > > always be open to both Clickers and non-paying LUG members. >> Clickers can >> > > > have preference, but since we repeat classes every six months LUG >> members >> > > > will always have a chance of getting in. >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >_______________________________________________ >> > >Admin mailing list >> > >Admin@brlug.net >> > >http://oxygen.nocdirect.com/mailman/listinfo/admin_brlug.net >> > >> > >> > --- >> > Dustin Puryear >> > Puryear Information Technology >> > Windows, UNIX, and IT Consulting >> > http://www.puryear-it.com >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Admin mailing list >> > Admin@brlug.net >> > http://oxygen.nocdirect.com/mailman/listinfo/admin_brlug.net >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Admin mailing list >>Admin@brlug.net >>http://oxygen.nocdirect.com/mailman/listinfo/admin_brlug.net --- Dustin Puryear Puryear Information Technology Windows, UNIX, and IT Consulting http://www.puryear-it.com From Admin@brlug.net Wed Feb 26 23:14:50 2003 From: Admin@brlug.net (Dustin Puryear) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 17:14:50 -0600 Subject: [Admin] InstallFest? Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030226171439.028ee710@mail.puryear-it.com> Time for a new one? Been quite a while.. --- Dustin Puryear Puryear Information Technology Windows, UNIX, and IT Consulting http://www.puryear-it.com From Admin@brlug.net Wed Feb 26 23:28:09 2003 From: Admin@brlug.net (John Hebert) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 17:28:09 -0600 Subject: Fwd: Re: [Admin] Fwd: Re: [brlug-general] Linux Classes - Curriculum/Focus In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20030226170953.05411ea8@mail.puryear-it.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030226170953.05411ea8@mail.puryear-it.com> Message-ID: The list you posted sounds good to me, though I would like to mention that I plan to be busy with the Linux classes at CCCC, so I won't be able to devote much time to the tech demos (other than possibly attending). John On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 17:14:27 -0600, Dustin Puryear wrote: > Let's go ahead and get this done if everyone wants to startup the general > meetings. I propose we only do quarterly or every other month unless we > get enough topics and speakers lined up. Here are some possible topics I > have in my list: > > Setting up and using KDE > Setting up and using GNOME > Setting up and using another X Window System window manager > High availability > Finance software > Beowulf Clusters > Using NIS/NFS > Kernel Hacking > Firewalls > Routers > Database servers - MySQL, PostgreSQL > StarOffice and other prod. Software > Games > Software development > > Any other ideas? > > Chirp up fellas. > >> Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 11:25:46 -0600 >> To: Admin@brlug.net >> From: Dustin Puryear >> Subject: Re: [Admin] Fwd: Re: [brlug-general] Linux Classes - >> Curriculum/Focus >> >> We have a pretty long laundry list in the archives somewhere. I think we >> came up with like ten topics early last year. >> >> At 11:18 AM 2/3/2003 -0600, you wrote: >> >>> Sounds great. The guy I contacted about Apple is also willing to do a >>> presentation, but he'd like to attend a meeting first. I'm not sure if >>> the newbies meeting is the right place to do this. I'd like to see a >>> list of presentation requests that potential presenters can choose from >>> to present on. That might make it a little more interesting for both >>> sides. It'll take the stress of finding a topic from the presenter, and >>> the attendees will get to see a topic they have an interest in. >>> Nominations/voting on topics might be cool >>> -Tim >>> >>> >>> On Mon, 2003-02-03 at 09:40, Dustin Puryear wrote: >>> > I can reschedule meetings at Bluebonnet if we have enough notice. We >>> can >>> > also do meetings at LSU, but then there is the parking issue. >>> Thoughts? >>> > Also, before resuming the more technical classes I would like to see >>> at >>> > least three meetings planned ahead. We pretty much stopped the >>> technical >>> > meetings because they were being held by the same one or two people >>> in >>> > general over and over and over. After a few years that gets old. >>> > >>> > Let's try to schedule a few meetings in advance. Hopefully each >>> meeting >>> > will have a different speaker. We can hopefully pull from LSU, >>> Lafeyette, >>> > local businesses, and (much less likely based on history) LUG >>> members. >>> > Internally, the following people can be expected to make >>> presentations: >>> > Dustin, Tim, John H., Doug, and Ricky. That is at least a five month >>> > rotation if nothing else. >>> > >>> > Finally, Accent Consulting is willing to sponsor our next meeting. >>> > >>> > PS I CC'd Ricky as he is off-list. >>> > >>> > At 09:24 AM 2/3/2003 -0600, you wrote: >>> > >>> > >I have the same feeling. However the subject matter of this >>> particular >>> > >curriculum makes me feel a little better about it, mainly for the >>> reason >>> > >that it has been mostly Clickers-type users who have bee asking for >>> this >>> > >particular subject matter. It seems that most of the non-Clicker >>> BRLUG >>> > >members have been more interested in a bottom-up approach to >>> learning >>> > >Linux. If these particular classes were more technically-oriented, >>> then >>> > >I would probably have big reservations about hosting them at >>> Clickers. >>> > > >>> > >On a semi-related note, I'd like to start thinking about how we're >>> going >>> > >to resume the more technical meetings. Do we have a venue? I'd also >>> like >>> > >to get LSU students more involved. We've got SuperMike right here, >>> and >>> > >the LUG has yet to see it! :) >>> > > >>> > >-Tim >>> > > >>> > >On Sat, 2003-02-01 at 11:31, Dustin Puryear wrote: >>> > > > All of the suggestions made by Sue sound great. However, I am >>> concerned >>> > > > that LUG members will get bumped out of LUG-taught classes as >>> Clickers >>> > > > members have preference. Is this an issue for anyone here? I know >>> that >>> > > > John, Tim, and Doug were going to be spearheading this, so it's >>> up to you >>> > > > how to handle it. Something we should discuss though. >>> > > > >>> > > > One solution may be to have a six or maybe even three month cycle >>> to the >>> > > > classes. The LUG will offer them to the Clickers, but the classes >>> will >>> > > > always be open to both Clickers and non-paying LUG members. >>> Clickers can >>> > > > have preference, but since we repeat classes every six months LUG >>> members >>> > > > will always have a chance of getting in. >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > >_______________________________________________ >>> > >Admin mailing list >>> > >Admin@brlug.net >>> > >http://oxygen.nocdirect.com/mailman/listinfo/admin_brlug.net >>> > >>> > >>> > --- >>> > Dustin Puryear >>> > Puryear Information Technology >>> > Windows, UNIX, and IT Consulting >>> > http://www.puryear-it.com >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Admin mailing list >>> > Admin@brlug.net >>> > http://oxygen.nocdirect.com/mailman/listinfo/admin_brlug.net >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Admin mailing list >>> Admin@brlug.net >>> http://oxygen.nocdirect.com/mailman/listinfo/admin_brlug.net > > > --- > Dustin Puryear > Puryear Information Technology > Windows, UNIX, and IT Consulting > http://www.puryear-it.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Admin mailing list > Admin@brlug.net > http://oxygen.nocdirect.com/mailman/listinfo/admin_brlug.net > -- John Hebert System Engineer I T Group, Inc. http://www.it-group.com From Admin@brlug.net Wed Feb 26 23:32:20 2003 From: Admin@brlug.net (Dustin Puryear) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 17:32:20 -0600 Subject: [Admin] Wardrive.. Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030226173028.0528c8e0@mail.puryear-it.com> We need to go ahead and let The Advocate guy know something pretty soon. If we don't get word to him soon he will either write something up entirely on his own or just drop the whole thing altogether. The latter would be preferable, but who knows what he will do? I'd rather at least tell him that we feel the article would be a potential problem. --- Dustin Puryear Puryear Information Technology Windows, UNIX, and IT Consulting http://www.puryear-it.com From Admin@brlug.net Thu Feb 27 00:02:46 2003 From: Admin@brlug.net (John Hebert) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 18:02:46 -0600 Subject: [Admin] Wardrive.. In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20030226173028.0528c8e0@mail.puryear-it.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030226173028.0528c8e0@mail.puryear-it.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 17:32:20 -0600, Dustin Puryear wrote: > We need to go ahead and let The Advocate guy know something pretty soon. > If we don't get word to him soon he will either write something up > entirely on his own or just drop the whole thing altogether. The latter > would be preferable, but who knows what he will do? I'd rather at least > tell him that we feel the article would be a potential problem. What exactly are you talking about? Is some reporter wanting to write an article on wardriving? -- John Hebert System Engineer I T Group, Inc. http://www.it-group.com From Admin@brlug.net Thu Feb 27 00:03:48 2003 From: Admin@brlug.net (John Hebert) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 18:03:48 -0600 Subject: [Admin] InstallFest? In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20030226171439.028ee710@mail.puryear-it.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030226171439.028ee710@mail.puryear-it.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 17:14:50 -0600, Dustin Puryear wrote: > Time for a new one? Been quite a while.. I offered on a couple of months ago via CCCC but there wasn't much attendance. There were only two computers that showed up, along with their humans. -- John Hebert System Engineer I T Group, Inc. http://www.it-group.com From Admin@brlug.net Thu Feb 27 00:16:42 2003 From: Admin@brlug.net (Doug Riddle) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 16:16:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: Fwd: Re: [Admin] Fwd: Re: [brlug-general] Linux Classes - Curriculum/Focus In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030227001642.76832.qmail@web9603.mail.yahoo.com> After hearing some of the comments at one of the newbie meetings I think we should have a few "Using package Y" classes, where Y=Gimp, GQview, Open Office, news clients, adding users, etc. We need to offer some VERY basic stuff. Sorry I haven't been very vocal, very busy, and everyone but me at home has the bloody-awfulls. Have you noticed how few people wrap the emails to 80 CHAR on this list? Doug --- John Hebert wrote: > The list you posted sounds good to me, though I > would like to mention that > I plan to be busy with the Linux classes at CCCC, so > I won't be able to > devote much time to the tech demos (other than > possibly attending). > > John > > On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 17:14:27 -0600, Dustin Puryear > > wrote: > > > Let's go ahead and get this done if everyone wants > to startup the general > > meetings. I propose we only do quarterly or every > other month unless we > > get enough topics and speakers lined up. Here are > some possible topics I > > have in my list: > > > > Setting up and using KDE > > Setting up and using GNOME > > Setting up and using another X Window System > window manager > > High availability > > Finance software > > Beowulf Clusters > > Using NIS/NFS > > Kernel Hacking > > Firewalls > > Routers > > Database servers - MySQL, PostgreSQL > > StarOffice and other prod. Software > > Games > > Software development > > > > Any other ideas? > > > > Chirp up fellas. > > > >> Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 11:25:46 -0600 > >> To: Admin@brlug.net > >> From: Dustin Puryear > >> Subject: Re: [Admin] Fwd: Re: [brlug-general] > Linux Classes - > >> Curriculum/Focus > >> > >> We have a pretty long laundry list in the > archives somewhere. I think we > >> came up with like ten topics early last year. > >> > >> At 11:18 AM 2/3/2003 -0600, you wrote: > >> > >>> Sounds great. The guy I contacted about Apple is > also willing to do a > >>> presentation, but he'd like to attend a meeting > first. I'm not sure if > >>> the newbies meeting is the right place to do > this. I'd like to see a > >>> list of presentation requests that potential > presenters can choose from > >>> to present on. That might make it a little more > interesting for both > >>> sides. It'll take the stress of finding a topic > from the presenter, and > >>> the attendees will get to see a topic they have > an interest in. > >>> Nominations/voting on topics might be cool > >>> -Tim > >>> > >>> > >>> On Mon, 2003-02-03 at 09:40, Dustin Puryear > wrote: > >>> > I can reschedule meetings at Bluebonnet if we > have enough notice. We > >>> can > >>> > also do meetings at LSU, but then there is the > parking issue. > >>> Thoughts? > >>> > Also, before resuming the more technical > classes I would like to see > >>> at > >>> > least three meetings planned ahead. We pretty > much stopped the > >>> technical > >>> > meetings because they were being held by the > same one or two people > >>> in > >>> > general over and over and over. After a few > years that gets old. > >>> > > >>> > Let's try to schedule a few meetings in > advance. Hopefully each > >>> meeting > >>> > will have a different speaker. We can > hopefully pull from LSU, > >>> Lafeyette, > >>> > local businesses, and (much less likely based > on history) LUG > >>> members. > >>> > Internally, the following people can be > expected to make > >>> presentations: > >>> > Dustin, Tim, John H., Doug, and Ricky. That is > at least a five month > >>> > rotation if nothing else. > >>> > > >>> > Finally, Accent Consulting is willing to > sponsor our next meeting. > >>> > > >>> > PS I CC'd Ricky as he is off-list. > >>> > > >>> > At 09:24 AM 2/3/2003 -0600, you wrote: > >>> > > >>> > >I have the same feeling. However the subject > matter of this > >>> particular > >>> > >curriculum makes me feel a little better > about it, mainly for the > >>> reason > >>> > >that it has been mostly Clickers-type users > who have bee asking for > >>> this > >>> > >particular subject matter. It seems that most > of the non-Clicker > >>> BRLUG > >>> > >members have been more interested in a > bottom-up approach to > >>> learning > >>> > >Linux. If these particular classes were more > technically-oriented, > >>> then > >>> > >I would probably have big reservations about > hosting them at > >>> Clickers. > >>> > > > >>> > >On a semi-related note, I'd like to start > thinking about how we're > >>> going > >>> > >to resume the more technical meetings. Do we > have a venue? I'd also > >>> like > >>> > >to get LSU students more involved. We've got > SuperMike right here, > >>> and > >>> > >the LUG has yet to see it! :) > >>> > > > >>> > >-Tim > >>> > > > >>> > >On Sat, 2003-02-01 at 11:31, Dustin Puryear > wrote: > >>> > > > All of the suggestions made by Sue sound > great. However, I am > >>> concerned > >>> > > > that LUG members will get bumped out of > LUG-taught classes as > >>> Clickers > >>> > > > members have preference. Is this an issue > for anyone here? I know > >>> that > >>> > > > John, Tim, and Doug were going to be > spearheading this, so it's > >>> up to you > >>> > > > how to handle it. Something we should > discuss though. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > One solution may be to have a six or maybe > even three month cycle > >>> to the > >>> > > > classes. The LUG will offer them to the > Clickers, but the classes > >>> will > >>> > > > always be open to both Clickers and > non-paying LUG members. > >>> Clickers can > >>> > > > have preference, but since we repeat > classes every six months LUG > >>> members > >>> > > > will always have a chance of getting in. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >_______________________________________________ > >>> > >Admin mailing list > >>> > >Admin@brlug.net > >>> > > >http://oxygen.nocdirect.com/mailman/listinfo/admin_brlug.net > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > --- > >>> > Dustin Puryear > >>> > Puryear Information Technology > >>> > Windows, UNIX, and IT Consulting > >>> > http://www.puryear-it.com > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > _______________________________________________ > === message truncated === ===== Warmest Regards, Doug Riddle http://www.dougriddle.com http://fossile-project.sourceforge.net/ http://www.libranet.com -- "Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the Peoples' Liberty Teeth." - George Washington -- __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ From Admin@brlug.net Thu Feb 27 00:26:52 2003 From: Admin@brlug.net (Dustin Puryear) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 18:26:52 -0600 Subject: [Admin] InstallFest? In-Reply-To: References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030226171439.028ee710@mail.puryear-it.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20030226171439.028ee710@mail.puryear-it.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030226182620.04f57328@mail.puryear-it.com> This would be non-CCCC. Put flyers at LSU, Southern, and local computer stores. We had a pretty good attendance at our Computer Heaven one. At 06:03 PM 2/26/2003 -0600, you wrote: >On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 17:14:50 -0600, Dustin Puryear >wrote: >>Time for a new one? Been quite a while.. > >I offered on a couple of months ago via CCCC but there wasn't much >attendance. There were only two computers that showed up, along with their >humans. > >-- >John Hebert >System Engineer >I T Group, Inc. http://www.it-group.com > >_______________________________________________ >Admin mailing list >Admin@brlug.net >http://oxygen.nocdirect.com/mailman/listinfo/admin_brlug.net > > --- Dustin Puryear Puryear Information Technology Windows, UNIX, and IT Consulting http://www.puryear-it.com From Admin@brlug.net Thu Feb 27 00:24:40 2003 From: Admin@brlug.net (Dustin Puryear) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 18:24:40 -0600 Subject: [Admin] Wardrive.. In-Reply-To: References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030226173028.0528c8e0@mail.puryear-it.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20030226173028.0528c8e0@mail.puryear-it.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030226182427.028b2548@mail.puryear-it.com> Son of a b*tch! Well thankfully I just sent this to admin@brlug.net and not general@brlug.net. That's it, long day, I'm going home. At 06:02 PM 2/26/2003 -0600, you wrote: >On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 17:32:20 -0600, Dustin Puryear >wrote: > >>We need to go ahead and let The Advocate guy know something pretty soon. >>If we don't get word to him soon he will either write something up >>entirely on his own or just drop the whole thing altogether. The latter >>would be preferable, but who knows what he will do? I'd rather at least >>tell him that we feel the article would be a potential problem. > >What exactly are you talking about? Is some reporter wanting to write an >article on wardriving? > >-- >John Hebert >System Engineer >I T Group, Inc. http://www.it-group.com > >_______________________________________________ >Admin mailing list >Admin@brlug.net >http://oxygen.nocdirect.com/mailman/listinfo/admin_brlug.net > --- Dustin Puryear Puryear Information Technology Windows, UNIX, and IT Consulting http://www.puryear-it.com From Admin@brlug.net Thu Feb 27 00:01:56 2003 From: Admin@brlug.net (Dustin Puryear) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 18:01:56 -0600 Subject: Fwd: Re: [Admin] Fwd: Re: [brlug-general] Linux Classes - Curriculum/Focus In-Reply-To: References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030226170953.05411ea8@mail.puryear-it.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20030226170953.05411ea8@mail.puryear-it.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030226180133.05477b08@mail.puryear-it.com> That's fine. When are the first classes scheduled to start? Are we going to be putting these up on the calendar? At 05:28 PM 2/26/2003 -0600, you wrote: >The list you posted sounds good to me, though I would like to mention that >I plan to be busy with the Linux classes at CCCC, so I won't be able to >devote much time to the tech demos (other than possibly attending). > >John > >On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 17:14:27 -0600, Dustin Puryear >wrote: > >>Let's go ahead and get this done if everyone wants to startup the general >>meetings. I propose we only do quarterly or every other month unless we >>get enough topics and speakers lined up. Here are some possible topics I >>have in my list: >> >>Setting up and using KDE >>Setting up and using GNOME >>Setting up and using another X Window System window manager >>High availability >>Finance software >>Beowulf Clusters >>Using NIS/NFS >>Kernel Hacking >>Firewalls >>Routers >>Database servers - MySQL, PostgreSQL >>StarOffice and other prod. Software >>Games >>Software development >> >>Any other ideas? >> >>Chirp up fellas. >> >>>Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 11:25:46 -0600 >>>To: Admin@brlug.net >>>From: Dustin Puryear >>>Subject: Re: [Admin] Fwd: Re: [brlug-general] Linux Classes - >>>Curriculum/Focus >>> >>>We have a pretty long laundry list in the archives somewhere. I think we >>>came up with like ten topics early last year. >>> >>>At 11:18 AM 2/3/2003 -0600, you wrote: >>> >>>>Sounds great. The guy I contacted about Apple is also willing to do a >>>>presentation, but he'd like to attend a meeting first. I'm not sure if >>>>the newbies meeting is the right place to do this. I'd like to see a >>>>list of presentation requests that potential presenters can choose from >>>>to present on. That might make it a little more interesting for both >>>>sides. It'll take the stress of finding a topic from the presenter, and >>>>the attendees will get to see a topic they have an interest in. >>>>Nominations/voting on topics might be cool >>>>-Tim >>>> >>>> >>>>On Mon, 2003-02-03 at 09:40, Dustin Puryear wrote: >>>> > I can reschedule meetings at Bluebonnet if we have enough notice. We can >>>> > also do meetings at LSU, but then there is the parking issue. Thoughts? >>>> > Also, before resuming the more technical classes I would like to see at >>>> > least three meetings planned ahead. We pretty much stopped the technical >>>> > meetings because they were being held by the same one or two people in >>>> > general over and over and over. After a few years that gets old. >>>> > >>>> > Let's try to schedule a few meetings in advance. Hopefully each meeting >>>> > will have a different speaker. We can hopefully pull from LSU, >>>> Lafeyette, >>>> > local businesses, and (much less likely based on history) LUG members. >>>> > Internally, the following people can be expected to make presentations: >>>> > Dustin, Tim, John H., Doug, and Ricky. That is at least a five month >>>> > rotation if nothing else. >>>> > >>>> > Finally, Accent Consulting is willing to sponsor our next meeting. >>>> > >>>> > PS I CC'd Ricky as he is off-list. >>>> > >>>> > At 09:24 AM 2/3/2003 -0600, you wrote: >>>> > >>>> > >I have the same feeling. However the subject matter of this particular >>>> > >curriculum makes me feel a little better about it, mainly for the >>>> reason >>>> > >that it has been mostly Clickers-type users who have bee asking for >>>> this >>>> > >particular subject matter. It seems that most of the non-Clicker BRLUG >>>> > >members have been more interested in a bottom-up approach to learning >>>> > >Linux. If these particular classes were more technically-oriented, then >>>> > >I would probably have big reservations about hosting them at Clickers. >>>> > > >>>> > >On a semi-related note, I'd like to start thinking about how we're >>>> going >>>> > >to resume the more technical meetings. Do we have a venue? I'd also >>>> like >>>> > >to get LSU students more involved. We've got SuperMike right here, and >>>> > >the LUG has yet to see it! :) >>>> > > >>>> > >-Tim >>>> > > >>>> > >On Sat, 2003-02-01 at 11:31, Dustin Puryear wrote: >>>> > > > All of the suggestions made by Sue sound great. However, I am >>>> concerned >>>> > > > that LUG members will get bumped out of LUG-taught classes as >>>> Clickers >>>> > > > members have preference. Is this an issue for anyone here? I >>>> know that >>>> > > > John, Tim, and Doug were going to be spearheading this, so it's >>>> up to you >>>> > > > how to handle it. Something we should discuss though. >>>> > > > >>>> > > > One solution may be to have a six or maybe even three month >>>> cycle to the >>>> > > > classes. The LUG will offer them to the Clickers, but the >>>> classes will >>>> > > > always be open to both Clickers and non-paying LUG members. >>>> Clickers can >>>> > > > have preference, but since we repeat classes every six months >>>> LUG members >>>> > > > will always have a chance of getting in. >>>> > > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > >_______________________________________________ >>>> > >Admin mailing list >>>> > >Admin@brlug.net >>>> > >http://oxygen.nocdirect.com/mailman/listinfo/admin_brlug.net >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > --- >>>> > Dustin Puryear >>>> > Puryear Information Technology >>>> > Windows, UNIX, and IT Consulting >>>> > http://www.puryear-it.com >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > Admin mailing list >>>> > Admin@brlug.net >>>> > http://oxygen.nocdirect.com/mailman/listinfo/admin_brlug.net >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>Admin mailing list >>>>Admin@brlug.net >>>>http://oxygen.nocdirect.com/mailman/listinfo/admin_brlug.net >> >> >>--- >>Dustin Puryear >>Puryear Information Technology >>Windows, UNIX, and IT Consulting >>http://www.puryear-it.com >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Admin mailing list >>Admin@brlug.net >>http://oxygen.nocdirect.com/mailman/listinfo/admin_brlug.net > > > >-- >John Hebert >System Engineer >I T Group, Inc. http://www.it-group.com > >_______________________________________________ >Admin mailing list >Admin@brlug.net >http://oxygen.nocdirect.com/mailman/listinfo/admin_brlug.net > > --- Dustin Puryear Puryear Information Technology Windows, UNIX, and IT Consulting http://www.puryear-it.com From Admin@brlug.net Thu Feb 27 02:49:11 2003 From: Admin@brlug.net (Tim Fournet) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 20:49:11 -0600 Subject: Fwd: Re: [Admin] Fwd: Re: [brlug-general] Linux Classes - Curriculum/Focus In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20030226170953.05411ea8@mail.puryear-it.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030226170953.05411ea8@mail.puryear-it.com> Message-ID: <3E5D7CA7.80609@penguinmonster.com> At some point in the future I'd like to do a session on power tools for Red Hat Linux. Needs to be after the release of RHL 8.1 Dustin Puryear wrote: > Let's go ahead and get this done if everyone wants to startup the > general meetings. I propose we only do quarterly or every other month > unless we get enough topics and speakers lined up. Here are some > possible topics I have in my list: > > Setting up and using KDE > Setting up and using GNOME > Setting up and using another X Window System window manager > High availability > Finance software > Beowulf Clusters > Using NIS/NFS > Kernel Hacking > Firewalls > Routers > Database servers - MySQL, PostgreSQL > StarOffice and other prod. Software > Games > Software development > > Any other ideas? > > Chirp up fellas. > >> Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 11:25:46 -0600 >> To: Admin@brlug.net >> From: Dustin Puryear >> Subject: Re: [Admin] Fwd: Re: [brlug-general] Linux Classes - >> Curriculum/Focus >> >> We have a pretty long laundry list in the archives somewhere. I think >> we came up with like ten topics early last year. >> >> At 11:18 AM 2/3/2003 -0600, you wrote: >> >>> Sounds great. The guy I contacted about Apple is also willing to do a >>> presentation, but he'd like to attend a meeting first. I'm not sure if >>> the newbies meeting is the right place to do this. I'd like to see a >>> list of presentation requests that potential presenters can choose from >>> to present on. That might make it a little more interesting for both >>> sides. It'll take the stress of finding a topic from the presenter, and >>> the attendees will get to see a topic they have an interest in. >>> Nominations/voting on topics might be cool >>> -Tim >>> >>> >>> On Mon, 2003-02-03 at 09:40, Dustin Puryear wrote: >>> > I can reschedule meetings at Bluebonnet if we have enough notice. >>> We can >>> > also do meetings at LSU, but then there is the parking issue. >>> Thoughts? >>> > Also, before resuming the more technical classes I would like to >>> see at >>> > least three meetings planned ahead. We pretty much stopped the >>> technical >>> > meetings because they were being held by the same one or two >>> people in >>> > general over and over and over. After a few years that gets old. >>> > >>> > Let's try to schedule a few meetings in advance. Hopefully each >>> meeting >>> > will have a different speaker. We can hopefully pull from LSU, >>> Lafeyette, >>> > local businesses, and (much less likely based on history) LUG >>> members. >>> > Internally, the following people can be expected to make >>> presentations: >>> > Dustin, Tim, John H., Doug, and Ricky. That is at least a five month >>> > rotation if nothing else. >>> > >>> > Finally, Accent Consulting is willing to sponsor our next meeting. >>> > >>> > PS I CC'd Ricky as he is off-list. >>> > >>> > At 09:24 AM 2/3/2003 -0600, you wrote: >>> > >>> > >I have the same feeling. However the subject matter of this >>> particular >>> > >curriculum makes me feel a little better about it, mainly for the >>> reason >>> > >that it has been mostly Clickers-type users who have bee asking >>> for this >>> > >particular subject matter. It seems that most of the non-Clicker >>> BRLUG >>> > >members have been more interested in a bottom-up approach to >>> learning >>> > >Linux. If these particular classes were more >>> technically-oriented, then >>> > >I would probably have big reservations about hosting them at >>> Clickers. >>> > > >>> > >On a semi-related note, I'd like to start thinking about how >>> we're going >>> > >to resume the more technical meetings. Do we have a venue? I'd >>> also like >>> > >to get LSU students more involved. We've got SuperMike right >>> here, and >>> > >the LUG has yet to see it! :) >>> > > >>> > >-Tim >>> > > >>> > >On Sat, 2003-02-01 at 11:31, Dustin Puryear wrote: >>> > > > All of the suggestions made by Sue sound great. However, I am >>> concerned >>> > > > that LUG members will get bumped out of LUG-taught classes as >>> Clickers >>> > > > members have preference. Is this an issue for anyone here? I >>> know that >>> > > > John, Tim, and Doug were going to be spearheading this, so >>> it's up to you >>> > > > how to handle it. Something we should discuss though. >>> > > > >>> > > > One solution may be to have a six or maybe even three month >>> cycle to the >>> > > > classes. The LUG will offer them to the Clickers, but the >>> classes will >>> > > > always be open to both Clickers and non-paying LUG members. >>> Clickers can >>> > > > have preference, but since we repeat classes every six months >>> LUG members >>> > > > will always have a chance of getting in. >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > >_______________________________________________ >>> > >Admin mailing list >>> > >Admin@brlug.net >>> > >http://oxygen.nocdirect.com/mailman/listinfo/admin_brlug.net >>> > >>> > >>> > --- >>> > Dustin Puryear >>> > Puryear Information Technology >>> > Windows, UNIX, and IT Consulting >>> > http://www.puryear-it.com >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Admin mailing list >>> > Admin@brlug.net >>> > http://oxygen.nocdirect.com/mailman/listinfo/admin_brlug.net >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Admin mailing list >>> Admin@brlug.net >>> http://oxygen.nocdirect.com/mailman/listinfo/admin_brlug.net >> > > > --- > Dustin Puryear > Puryear Information Technology > Windows, UNIX, and IT Consulting > http://www.puryear-it.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Admin mailing list > Admin@brlug.net > http://oxygen.nocdirect.com/mailman/listinfo/admin_brlug.net From Admin@brlug.net Thu Feb 27 14:37:45 2003 From: Admin@brlug.net (John Hebert) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 08:37:45 -0600 Subject: [Admin] presentation on rsync would be very beneficial, was Re: [brlug-general] RedHat Phoebe - 3 In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030226205107.00baf1f8@pop.east.cox.net> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030226194527.00bbc210@pop.east.cox.net> <5.2.0.9.0.20030226194527.00bbc210@pop.east.cox.net> <5.2.0.9.0.20030226205107.00baf1f8@pop.east.cox.net> Message-ID: I think a presentation on using rsync and possibly setting up an rsync server would be beneficial to BRLUGers and the local community. I imagine that a lot of admins out there would save themselves much headache by using/implementing rsync. John On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 20:52:06 -0600, Cleve Allison wrote: > Ye Gods.........sir, you are a gentleman and a scholar. > I just went from 17 hours........to a 46 minute download time. > Many thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!! > Cleve > > > At 08:51 PM 2/26/2003, you wrote: >> ftp.freshrpms.net has an rsync mirror that I usually get very decent >> speeds with, 200K+ >> >> Cleve Allison wrote: >> >>> does anyone have a good fast site for downloading the latest beta >>> version of RedHat Phoebe - 3 >>> Thanks, >>> Cleve -- John Hebert System Engineer I T Group, Inc. http://www.it-group.com From Admin@brlug.net Thu Feb 27 14:56:23 2003 From: Admin@brlug.net (Tim Fournet) Date: 27 Feb 2003 08:56:23 -0600 Subject: [Admin] presentation on rsync would be very beneficial, was Re: [brlug-general] RedHat Phoebe - 3 In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030226194527.00bbc210@pop.east.cox.net> <5.2.0.9.0.20030226194527.00bbc210@pop.east.cox.net> <5.2.0.9.0.20030226205107.00baf1f8@pop.east.cox.net> Message-ID: <1046357783.23529.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> I can volunteer to do a presentation on rsync that would take a half-meeting. someone want to do something for the other half? On Thu, 2003-02-27 at 08:37, John Hebert wrote: > I think a presentation on using rsync and possibly setting up an rsync > server would be beneficial to BRLUGers and the local community. I imagine > that a lot of admins out there would save themselves much headache by > using/implementing rsync. > > John > > On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 20:52:06 -0600, Cleve Allison > wrote: > > Ye Gods.........sir, you are a gentleman and a scholar. > > I just went from 17 hours........to a 46 minute download time. > > Many thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Cleve > > > > > > At 08:51 PM 2/26/2003, you wrote: > >> ftp.freshrpms.net has an rsync mirror that I usually get very decent > >> speeds with, 200K+ > >> > >> Cleve Allison wrote: > >> > >>> does anyone have a good fast site for downloading the latest beta > >>> version of RedHat Phoebe - 3 > >>> Thanks, > >>> Cleve From Admin@brlug.net Thu Feb 27 22:18:11 2003 From: Admin@brlug.net (Dustin Puryear) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 16:18:11 -0600 Subject: [Admin] presentation on rsync would be very beneficial, was Re: [brlug-general] RedHat Phoebe - 3 In-Reply-To: <1046357783.23529.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030226194527.00bbc210@pop.east.cox.net> <5.2.0.9.0.20030226194527.00bbc210@pop.east.cox.net> <5.2.0.9.0.20030226205107.00baf1f8@pop.east.cox.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030227161517.05399e20@mail.puryear-it.com> Define "half-meeting." 30 min or 1 hour? I may be willing to do something. I'd like to schedule a regular meeting for April. We will then have one each quarter. If we get enough presentations going we can then move to every other month. If we do that we can then move to monthly. I don't want to start scheduling monthly meetings right off the bat and then have to struggle each month to find a presenter. Any suggestions for topics/people to prod about presentations? Currently I have Tim, Mat, and L. NcGai down. At 08:56 AM 2/27/2003 -0600, you wrote: >I can volunteer to do a presentation on rsync that would take a >half-meeting. someone want to do something for the other half? > >On Thu, 2003-02-27 at 08:37, John Hebert wrote: > > I think a presentation on using rsync and possibly setting up an rsync > > server would be beneficial to BRLUGers and the local community. I imagine > > that a lot of admins out there would save themselves much headache by > > using/implementing rsync. > > > > John > > > > On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 20:52:06 -0600, Cleve Allison > > wrote: > > > Ye Gods.........sir, you are a gentleman and a scholar. > > > I just went from 17 hours........to a 46 minute download time. > > > Many thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > Cleve > > > > > > > > > At 08:51 PM 2/26/2003, you wrote: > > >> ftp.freshrpms.net has an rsync mirror that I usually get very decent > > >> speeds with, 200K+ > > >> > > >> Cleve Allison wrote: > > >> > > >>> does anyone have a good fast site for downloading the latest beta > > >>> version of RedHat Phoebe - 3 > > >>> Thanks, > > >>> Cleve > > >_______________________________________________ >Admin mailing list >Admin@brlug.net >http://oxygen.nocdirect.com/mailman/listinfo/admin_brlug.net --- Dustin Puryear Puryear Information Technology Windows, UNIX, and IT Consulting http://www.puryear-it.com From Admin@brlug.net Thu Feb 27 22:15:01 2003 From: Admin@brlug.net (Dustin Puryear) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 16:15:01 -0600 Subject: [Admin] presentation on rsync would be very beneficial, was Re: [brlug-general] RedHat Phoebe - 3 In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030226205107.00baf1f8@pop.east.cox.net> <5.2.0.9.0.20030226194527.00bbc210@pop.east.cox.net> <5.2.0.9.0.20030226194527.00bbc210@pop.east.cox.net> <5.2.0.9.0.20030226205107.00baf1f8@pop.east.cox.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030227161436.05259f78@mail.puryear-it.com> Not a bad idea. Who do you know would do the presentation? I'm looking for people outside the admin ranks if possible. At 08:37 AM 2/27/2003 -0600, you wrote: >I think a presentation on using rsync and possibly setting up an rsync >server would be beneficial to BRLUGers and the local community. I imagine >that a lot of admins out there would save themselves much headache by >using/implementing rsync. > >John > >On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 20:52:06 -0600, Cleve Allison wrote: >>Ye Gods.........sir, you are a gentleman and a scholar. >>I just went from 17 hours........to a 46 minute download time. >>Many thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!! >>Cleve >> >> >>At 08:51 PM 2/26/2003, you wrote: >>>ftp.freshrpms.net has an rsync mirror that I usually get very decent >>>speeds with, 200K+ >>> >>>Cleve Allison wrote: >>> >>>>does anyone have a good fast site for downloading the latest beta >>>>version of RedHat Phoebe - 3 >>>>Thanks, >>>>Cleve > >-- >John Hebert >System Engineer >I T Group, Inc. http://www.it-group.com > >_______________________________________________ >Admin mailing list >Admin@brlug.net >http://oxygen.nocdirect.com/mailman/listinfo/admin_brlug.net > > --- Dustin Puryear Puryear Information Technology Windows, UNIX, and IT Consulting http://www.puryear-it.com From Admin@brlug.net Thu Feb 27 22:14:11 2003 From: Admin@brlug.net (Dustin Puryear) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 16:14:11 -0600 Subject: Fwd: Re: [Admin] Fwd: Re: [brlug-general] Linux Classes - Curriculum/Focus In-Reply-To: <3E5D7CA7.80609@penguinmonster.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030226170953.05411ea8@mail.puryear-it.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20030226170953.05411ea8@mail.puryear-it.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030227161359.053909f8@mail.puryear-it.com> Cool, I have you down for that. At 08:49 PM 2/26/2003 -0600, you wrote: >At some point in the future I'd like to do a session on power tools for >Red Hat Linux. Needs to be after the release of RHL 8.1 > >Dustin Puryear wrote: > >>Let's go ahead and get this done if everyone wants to startup the general >>meetings. I propose we only do quarterly or every other month unless we >>get enough topics and speakers lined up. Here are some possible topics I >>have in my list: >> >>Setting up and using KDE >>Setting up and using GNOME >>Setting up and using another X Window System window manager >>High availability >>Finance software >>Beowulf Clusters >>Using NIS/NFS >>Kernel Hacking >>Firewalls >>Routers >>Database servers - MySQL, PostgreSQL >>StarOffice and other prod. Software >>Games >>Software development >> >>Any other ideas? >> >>Chirp up fellas. >> >>>Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 11:25:46 -0600 >>>To: Admin@brlug.net >>>From: Dustin Puryear >>>Subject: Re: [Admin] Fwd: Re: [brlug-general] Linux Classes - >>>Curriculum/Focus >>> >>>We have a pretty long laundry list in the archives somewhere. I think we >>>came up with like ten topics early last year. >>> >>>At 11:18 AM 2/3/2003 -0600, you wrote: >>> >>>>Sounds great. The guy I contacted about Apple is also willing to do a >>>>presentation, but he'd like to attend a meeting first. I'm not sure if >>>>the newbies meeting is the right place to do this. I'd like to see a >>>>list of presentation requests that potential presenters can choose from >>>>to present on. That might make it a little more interesting for both >>>>sides. It'll take the stress of finding a topic from the presenter, and >>>>the attendees will get to see a topic they have an interest in. >>>>Nominations/voting on topics might be cool >>>>-Tim >>>> >>>> >>>>On Mon, 2003-02-03 at 09:40, Dustin Puryear wrote: >>>> > I can reschedule meetings at Bluebonnet if we have enough notice. We can >>>> > also do meetings at LSU, but then there is the parking issue. Thoughts? >>>> > Also, before resuming the more technical classes I would like to see at >>>> > least three meetings planned ahead. We pretty much stopped the technical >>>> > meetings because they were being held by the same one or two people in >>>> > general over and over and over. After a few years that gets old. >>>> > >>>> > Let's try to schedule a few meetings in advance. Hopefully each meeting >>>> > will have a different speaker. We can hopefully pull from LSU, >>>> Lafeyette, >>>> > local businesses, and (much less likely based on history) LUG members. >>>> > Internally, the following people can be expected to make presentations: >>>> > Dustin, Tim, John H., Doug, and Ricky. That is at least a five month >>>> > rotation if nothing else. >>>> > >>>> > Finally, Accent Consulting is willing to sponsor our next meeting. >>>> > >>>> > PS I CC'd Ricky as he is off-list. >>>> > >>>> > At 09:24 AM 2/3/2003 -0600, you wrote: >>>> > >>>> > >I have the same feeling. However the subject matter of this particular >>>> > >curriculum makes me feel a little better about it, mainly for the >>>> reason >>>> > >that it has been mostly Clickers-type users who have bee asking for >>>> this >>>> > >particular subject matter. It seems that most of the non-Clicker BRLUG >>>> > >members have been more interested in a bottom-up approach to learning >>>> > >Linux. If these particular classes were more technically-oriented, then >>>> > >I would probably have big reservations about hosting them at Clickers. >>>> > > >>>> > >On a semi-related note, I'd like to start thinking about how we're >>>> going >>>> > >to resume the more technical meetings. Do we have a venue? I'd also >>>> like >>>> > >to get LSU students more involved. We've got SuperMike right here, and >>>> > >the LUG has yet to see it! :) >>>> > > >>>> > >-Tim >>>> > > >>>> > >On Sat, 2003-02-01 at 11:31, Dustin Puryear wrote: >>>> > > > All of the suggestions made by Sue sound great. However, I am >>>> concerned >>>> > > > that LUG members will get bumped out of LUG-taught classes as >>>> Clickers >>>> > > > members have preference. Is this an issue for anyone here? I >>>> know that >>>> > > > John, Tim, and Doug were going to be spearheading this, so it's >>>> up to you >>>> > > > how to handle it. Something we should discuss though. >>>> > > > >>>> > > > One solution may be to have a six or maybe even three month >>>> cycle to the >>>> > > > classes. The LUG will offer them to the Clickers, but the >>>> classes will >>>> > > > always be open to both Clickers and non-paying LUG members. >>>> Clickers can >>>> > > > have preference, but since we repeat classes every six months >>>> LUG members >>>> > > > will always have a chance of getting in. >>>> > > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > >_______________________________________________ >>>> > >Admin mailing list >>>> > >Admin@brlug.net >>>> > >http://oxygen.nocdirect.com/mailman/listinfo/admin_brlug.net >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > --- >>>> > Dustin Puryear >>>> > Puryear Information Technology >>>> > Windows, UNIX, and IT Consulting >>>> > http://www.puryear-it.com >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > Admin mailing list >>>> > Admin@brlug.net >>>> > http://oxygen.nocdirect.com/mailman/listinfo/admin_brlug.net >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>Admin mailing list >>>>Admin@brlug.net >>>>http://oxygen.nocdirect.com/mailman/listinfo/admin_brlug.net >> >> >>--- >>Dustin Puryear >>Puryear Information Technology >>Windows, UNIX, and IT Consulting >>http://www.puryear-it.com >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Admin mailing list >>Admin@brlug.net >>http://oxygen.nocdirect.com/mailman/listinfo/admin_brlug.net > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Admin mailing list >Admin@brlug.net >http://oxygen.nocdirect.com/mailman/listinfo/admin_brlug.net > > --- Dustin Puryear Puryear Information Technology Windows, UNIX, and IT Consulting http://www.puryear-it.com From Admin@brlug.net Thu Feb 27 23:02:23 2003 From: Admin@brlug.net (John Hebert) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 17:02:23 -0600 Subject: [Admin] presentation on rsync would be very beneficial, was Re: [brlug-general] RedHat Phoebe - 3 In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20030227161436.05259f78@mail.puryear-it.com> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030226205107.00baf1f8@pop.east.cox.net> <5.2.0.9.0.20030226194527.00bbc210@pop.east.cox.net> <5.2.0.9.0.20030226194527.00bbc210@pop.east.cox.net> <5.2.0.9.0.20030226205107.00baf1f8@pop.east.cox.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20030227161436.05259f78@mail.puryear-it.com> Message-ID: I wanted Tim to volunteer, which he did, since he knows his way around rsync. jh On Thu, 27 Feb 2003 16:15:01 -0600, Dustin Puryear wrote: > Not a bad idea. Who do you know would do the presentation? I'm looking > for people outside the admin ranks if possible. > > At 08:37 AM 2/27/2003 -0600, you wrote: > >> I think a presentation on using rsync and possibly setting up an rsync >> server would be beneficial to BRLUGers and the local community. I >> imagine that a lot of admins out there would save themselves much >> headache by using/implementing rsync. >> >> John >> >> On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 20:52:06 -0600, Cleve Allison >> wrote: >>> Ye Gods.........sir, you are a gentleman and a scholar. >>> I just went from 17 hours........to a 46 minute download time. >>> Many thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!! >>> Cleve >>> >>> >>> At 08:51 PM 2/26/2003, you wrote: >>>> ftp.freshrpms.net has an rsync mirror that I usually get very decent >>>> speeds with, 200K+ >>>> >>>> Cleve Allison wrote: >>>> >>>>> does anyone have a good fast site for downloading the latest beta >>>>> version of RedHat Phoebe - 3 >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Cleve >> >> -- >> John Hebert >> System Engineer >> I T Group, Inc. http://www.it-group.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Admin mailing list >> Admin@brlug.net >> http://oxygen.nocdirect.com/mailman/listinfo/admin_brlug.net >> >> > > > --- > Dustin Puryear > Puryear Information Technology > Windows, UNIX, and IT Consulting > http://www.puryear-it.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Admin mailing list > Admin@brlug.net > http://oxygen.nocdirect.com/mailman/listinfo/admin_brlug.net > -- John Hebert System Engineer I T Group, Inc. http://www.it-group.com From Admin@brlug.net Fri Feb 28 00:58:54 2003 From: Admin@brlug.net (Tim Fournet) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 18:58:54 -0600 Subject: [Admin] presentation on rsync would be very beneficial, was Re: [brlug-general] RedHat Phoebe - 3 In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030226205107.00baf1f8@pop.east.cox.net> <5.2.0.9.0.20030226194527.00bbc210@pop.east.cox.net> <5.2.0.9.0.20030226194527.00bbc210@pop.east.cox.net> <5.2.0.9.0.20030226205107.00baf1f8@pop.east.cox.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20030227161436.05259f78@mail.puryear-it.com> Message-ID: <3E5EB44E.6070803@penguinmonster.com> I've been tricked!! doh! John Hebert wrote: > I wanted Tim to volunteer, which he did, since he knows his way around > rsync. > > jh > > On Thu, 27 Feb 2003 16:15:01 -0600, Dustin Puryear > wrote: > >> Not a bad idea. Who do you know would do the presentation? I'm >> looking for people outside the admin ranks if possible. >> >> At 08:37 AM 2/27/2003 -0600, you wrote: >> >>> I think a presentation on using rsync and possibly setting up an >>> rsync server would be beneficial to BRLUGers and the local >>> community. I imagine that a lot of admins out there would save >>> themselves much headache by using/implementing rsync. >>> >>> John >>> >>> On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 20:52:06 -0600, Cleve Allison >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Ye Gods.........sir, you are a gentleman and a scholar. >>>> I just went from 17 hours........to a 46 minute download time. >>>> Many thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!! >>>> Cleve >>>> >>>> >>>> At 08:51 PM 2/26/2003, you wrote: >>>> >>>>> ftp.freshrpms.net has an rsync mirror that I usually get very >>>>> decent speeds with, 200K+ >>>>> >>>>> Cleve Allison wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> does anyone have a good fast site for downloading the latest beta >>>>>> version of RedHat Phoebe - 3 >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Cleve >>>>> >>> >>> -- >>> John Hebert >>> System Engineer >>> I T Group, Inc. http://www.it-group.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Admin mailing list >>> Admin@brlug.net >>> http://oxygen.nocdirect.com/mailman/listinfo/admin_brlug.net >>> >>> >> >> >> --- >> Dustin Puryear >> Puryear Information Technology >> Windows, UNIX, and IT Consulting >> http://www.puryear-it.com >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Admin mailing list >> Admin@brlug.net >> http://oxygen.nocdirect.com/mailman/listinfo/admin_brlug.net >> > > > From Admin@brlug.net Fri Feb 28 01:01:22 2003 From: Admin@brlug.net (Tim Fournet) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 19:01:22 -0600 Subject: [Admin] presentation on rsync would be very beneficial, was Re: [brlug-general] RedHat Phoebe - 3 In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20030227161517.05399e20@mail.puryear-it.com> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030226194527.00bbc210@pop.east.cox.net> <5.2.0.9.0.20030226194527.00bbc210@pop.east.cox.net> <5.2.0.9.0.20030226205107.00baf1f8@pop.east.cox.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20030227161517.05399e20@mail.puryear-it.com> Message-ID: <3E5EB4E2.4020300@penguinmonster.com> I think I can say all there is to say about rsync (at least that will keep people interested) in a little under an hour. Once it's demystified, one will see that it's not a whole lot more than an intelligent copy that happens to have a client-server operation. Dustin Puryear wrote: > Define "half-meeting." 30 min or 1 hour? I may be willing to do > something. I'd like to schedule a regular meeting for April. We will > then have one each quarter. If we get enough presentations going we > can then move to every other month. If we do that we can then move to > monthly. I don't want to start scheduling monthly meetings right off > the bat and then have to struggle each month to find a presenter. > > Any suggestions for topics/people to prod about presentations? > Currently I have Tim, Mat, and L. NcGai down. > > At 08:56 AM 2/27/2003 -0600, you wrote: > >> I can volunteer to do a presentation on rsync that would take a >> half-meeting. someone want to do something for the other half? >> >> On Thu, 2003-02-27 at 08:37, John Hebert wrote: >> > I think a presentation on using rsync and possibly setting up an rsync >> > server would be beneficial to BRLUGers and the local community. I >> imagine >> > that a lot of admins out there would save themselves much headache by >> > using/implementing rsync. >> > >> > John >> > >> > On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 20:52:06 -0600, Cleve Allison >> > wrote: >> > > Ye Gods.........sir, you are a gentleman and a scholar. >> > > I just went from 17 hours........to a 46 minute download time. >> > > Many thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!! >> > > Cleve >> > > >> > > >> > > At 08:51 PM 2/26/2003, you wrote: >> > >> ftp.freshrpms.net has an rsync mirror that I usually get very >> decent >> > >> speeds with, 200K+ >> > >> >> > >> Cleve Allison wrote: >> > >> >> > >>> does anyone have a good fast site for downloading the latest beta >> > >>> version of RedHat Phoebe - 3 >> > >>> Thanks, >> > >>> Cleve >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Admin mailing list >> Admin@brlug.net >> http://oxygen.nocdirect.com/mailman/listinfo/admin_brlug.net > > > > --- > Dustin Puryear > Puryear Information Technology > Windows, UNIX, and IT Consulting > http://www.puryear-it.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Admin mailing list > Admin@brlug.net > http://oxygen.nocdirect.com/mailman/listinfo/admin_brlug.net From Admin@brlug.net Fri Feb 28 17:33:22 2003 From: Admin@brlug.net (Dustin Puryear) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 11:33:22 -0600 Subject: [Admin] Perks moved to Wednesday? Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030228113257.05403080@mail.puryear-it.com> We agreed on Wedensdays for Perks right? If so I need to update the site. Somebody remind me if I'm right or crazy. --- Dustin Puryear Puryear Information Technology Windows, UNIX, and IT Consulting http://www.puryear-it.com From Admin@brlug.net Fri Feb 28 17:31:45 2003 From: Admin@brlug.net (Dustin Puryear) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 11:31:45 -0600 Subject: [Admin] presentation on rsync would be very beneficial, was Re: [brlug-general] RedHat Phoebe - 3 In-Reply-To: <3E5EB4E2.4020300@penguinmonster.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030227161517.05399e20@mail.puryear-it.com> <5.2.0.9.0.20030226194527.00bbc210@pop.east.cox.net> <5.2.0.9.0.20030226194527.00bbc210@pop.east.cox.net> <5.2.0.9.0.20030226205107.00baf1f8@pop.east.cox.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20030227161517.05399e20@mail.puryear-it.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030228113110.053d4c28@mail.puryear-it.com> Sounds good. I believe Mat will be doing a presentation on FreeBSD. I will schedule a place for this April. I am working on getting things together for the May meeting as well. At 07:01 PM 2/27/2003 -0600, you wrote: >I think I can say all there is to say about rsync (at least that will keep >people interested) in a little under an hour. Once it's demystified, one >will see that it's not a whole lot more than an intelligent copy that >happens to have a client-server operation. > >Dustin Puryear wrote: > >>Define "half-meeting." 30 min or 1 hour? I may be willing to do >>something. I'd like to schedule a regular meeting for April. We will then >>have one each quarter. If we get enough presentations going we can then >>move to every other month. If we do that we can then move to monthly. I >>don't want to start scheduling monthly meetings right off the bat and >>then have to struggle each month to find a presenter. >> >>Any suggestions for topics/people to prod about presentations? Currently >>I have Tim, Mat, and L. NcGai down. >> >>At 08:56 AM 2/27/2003 -0600, you wrote: >> >>>I can volunteer to do a presentation on rsync that would take a >>>half-meeting. someone want to do something for the other half? >>> >>>On Thu, 2003-02-27 at 08:37, John Hebert wrote: >>> > I think a presentation on using rsync and possibly setting up an rsync >>> > server would be beneficial to BRLUGers and the local community. I imagine >>> > that a lot of admins out there would save themselves much headache by >>> > using/implementing rsync. >>> > >>> > John >>> > >>> > On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 20:52:06 -0600, Cleve Allison >>> > wrote: >>> > > Ye Gods.........sir, you are a gentleman and a scholar. >>> > > I just went from 17 hours........to a 46 minute download time. >>> > > Many thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!! >>> > > Cleve >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > At 08:51 PM 2/26/2003, you wrote: >>> > >> ftp.freshrpms.net has an rsync mirror that I usually get very decent >>> > >> speeds with, 200K+ >>> > >> >>> > >> Cleve Allison wrote: >>> > >> >>> > >>> does anyone have a good fast site for downloading the latest beta >>> > >>> version of RedHat Phoebe - 3 >>> > >>> Thanks, >>> > >>> Cleve >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Admin mailing list >>>Admin@brlug.net >>>http://oxygen.nocdirect.com/mailman/listinfo/admin_brlug.net >> >> >> >>--- >>Dustin Puryear >>Puryear Information Technology >>Windows, UNIX, and IT Consulting >>http://www.puryear-it.com >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Admin mailing list >>Admin@brlug.net >>http://oxygen.nocdirect.com/mailman/listinfo/admin_brlug.net > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Admin mailing list >Admin@brlug.net >http://oxygen.nocdirect.com/mailman/listinfo/admin_brlug.net > > --- Dustin Puryear Puryear Information Technology Windows, UNIX, and IT Consulting http://www.puryear-it.com From Admin@brlug.net Fri Feb 28 18:31:24 2003 From: Admin@brlug.net (Tim Fournet) Date: 28 Feb 2003 12:31:24 -0600 Subject: [Admin] Perks moved to Wednesday? In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20030228113257.05403080@mail.puryear-it.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030228113257.05403080@mail.puryear-it.com> Message-ID: <1046457083.25817.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> both? On Fri, 2003-02-28 at 11:33, Dustin Puryear wrote: > We agreed on Wedensdays for Perks right? If so I need to update the site. > Somebody remind me if I'm right or crazy. > > --- > Dustin Puryear > Puryear Information Technology > Windows, UNIX, and IT Consulting > http://www.puryear-it.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Admin mailing list > Admin@brlug.net > http://oxygen.nocdirect.com/mailman/listinfo/admin_brlug.net From Admin@brlug.net Fri Feb 28 18:35:23 2003 From: Admin@brlug.net (Dustin Puryear) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 12:35:23 -0600 Subject: [Admin] Perks moved to Wednesday? In-Reply-To: <1046457083.25817.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030228113257.05403080@mail.puryear-it.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20030228113257.05403080@mail.puryear-it.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030228123519.05454118@mail.puryear-it.com> As I feared. At 12:31 PM 2/28/2003 -0600, you wrote: >both? > >On Fri, 2003-02-28 at 11:33, Dustin Puryear wrote: > > We agreed on Wedensdays for Perks right? If so I need to update the site. > > Somebody remind me if I'm right or crazy. > > > > --- > > Dustin Puryear > > Puryear Information Technology > > Windows, UNIX, and IT Consulting > > http://www.puryear-it.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Admin mailing list > > Admin@brlug.net > > http://oxygen.nocdirect.com/mailman/listinfo/admin_brlug.net > > >_______________________________________________ >Admin mailing list >Admin@brlug.net >http://oxygen.nocdirect.com/mailman/listinfo/admin_brlug.net --- Dustin Puryear Puryear Information Technology Windows, UNIX, and IT Consulting http://www.puryear-it.com From Admin@brlug.net Fri Feb 28 20:04:23 2003 From: Admin@brlug.net (John Hebert) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 14:04:23 -0600 Subject: [Admin] Perks moved to Wednesday? In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20030228113257.05403080@mail.puryear-it.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030228113257.05403080@mail.puryear-it.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 28 Feb 2003 11:33:22 -0600, Dustin Puryear wrote: > We agreed on Wedensdays for Perks right? If so I need to update the site. > Somebody remind me if I'm right or crazy. Logic error: you are both right _and_ crazy. -- John Hebert System Engineer I T Group, Inc. http://www.it-group.com