[brlug-general] Cox and P2P

[Andrew Baudouin]

No, it isn't enough.  You simply don't know what speed the seeders have
capped their own individual uploads at.

I have no issues downloading popular torrents at my full 7 megabits per
second rate.

On Jan 16, 2008 10:34 AM, willhill <williamhill2 at cox.net> wrote:

> So the Broadband report screen shots of RST packets their quoting a Cox
> representative who admits to and defends the practice is not good enough.
> OK.
>
> While doing the torrent, a wget of a 1.7 MB file came through with  28.27K
> /s.
> This morning, I got 218.22K/s.  What mysterious thing was clogging my pipe
> last night while I was getting a pathetic 40 K/s movie download?
>
> I'm sure that's not enough for you either.  So here is the EFF report
> about
> Comcast:
>
> http://www.eff.org/files/eff_comcast_report.pdf
>
> I will be unable to prove interference without co-operation.  The
> technique
> requires monitoring of traffic at two points to observe RST packets
> received
> that neither party transmits.  Observation of these packets by other Cox
> users as published in Broadband reports is sufficient proof for me that
> Cox
> is interfering with bittorrent.  I'm willing to try this out myself but
> don't
> expect a fair result because Cox monitors this list.  It would work out
> better if other Cox users on this list tried the same thing and noted
> their
> download speed.
>
> Shannon, your speed is good evidence of an unpopular torrent, but five to
> ten
> users should still be able to saturate my pipes.  How long did you
> download?
> If you attempted to download the whole thing, you should be finished in
> about
> four days.
>
> On Wednesday 16 January 2008 1:39 am, Shannon Roddy wrote:
> > On Jan 15, 2008 10:54 PM, John Hebert <johnahebert at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > Facts? We don't need no steeenking facts!
> >
> > No kidding.  I am on a gig pipe to NLR/Internet2 and 512 to the
> > commodity 'net with a fully symmetric 10 meg backup pipe with a SLA.
> > Not exactly a consumer level connection.  Thought I would test this
> > out and I am currently getting ~10KB/sec.  I know exactly what the
> > topology between me and the backbone looks like, and there are no BT
> > filters or floods of RST packets inbound to me.  It just ain't a fast
> > torrent.  But, everyone prefers the conspiracies.  Oh... and before
> > someone asks me about utilization on my border router, it is 1-10%
> > usage on average.  Currently .16% tx and .05% rx. so I know there is
> > no bottleneck.  Upstream on the commodity backbone is currently ~13%
> > utilization.
> >
> > That's not to say I don't disagree with what some ISPs *are* doing,
> > but in this case, it is not the conspiracy claimed.
>
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