From bendily at gmail.com Thu Nov 5 09:53:51 2009 From: bendily at gmail.com (Brad Bendily) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 09:53:51 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] md5sum and diff? Message-ID: Hi Folks, Been quiet for a while here. I have a question, maybe i'm missing something, but i'm curious what you all do in this situation, or if there's some command out there I can't seem to find. So, i've downloaded an ISO and I want to verify the md5sum of that iso. I have to run the md5sum cmd against the iso I downloaded and then copy the sum from the website and manually(visually) compare the two sums. After doing this a number of times, i thought there must be a better way, so I googled and I read through some man pages and I just don't see the better way. Am I missing something here? Well, since I couldn't find anything I made a script to help me, so here's that: #!/bin/bash md5sum $1 |awk '{print $1}' > /tmp/mdoutput1.tmp echo $2 > /tmp/mdoutput2.tmp diff -q /tmp/mdoutput1.tmp /tmp/mdoutput2.tmp if [ "$?" != "0" ] then #echo "md5sums DON'T match" printf "\033[1;37;41m***md5sums DON'T MATCH*** \033[1;37;40m\n" else echo "MD5SUMS Match!!!!" printf "\033[1;37;44m***MD5SUMS MATCH*** \033[1;37;40m\n" fi rm /tmp/mdoutput1.tmp rm /tmp/mdoutput2.tmp Is there a better way? bb -- Have Mercy & Say Yeah From whanders at lasthonorableman.net Thu Nov 5 10:23:16 2009 From: whanders at lasthonorableman.net (William Anderson) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 10:23:16 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] md5sum and diff? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20091105162316.GA27345@whanders.dyndns.org> You should be able to just copy the md5sum from a website into a text file and just let md5sum do a check: $ md5sum testfile 68b329da9893e34099c7d8ad5cb9c940 testfile $ md5sum testfile > testfile.md5 $ md5sum -c testfile.md5 testfile: OK The format for the check file is the md5sum, two spaces, and the file name. You can also specify multiple files, one per line, and check several files at once (e.g. if your installing a piece of software and serveral dependencies, you can just download all the tar balls, copy the md5sum for each into a single file and let md5sum check them all). Bill On Thu, Nov 05, 2009 at 09:53:51AM -0600, Brad Bendily wrote: > Hi Folks, > Been quiet for a while here. > > I have a question, maybe i'm missing something, but i'm curious what > you all do in this situation, or > if there's some command out there I can't seem to find. > > So, i've downloaded an ISO and I want to verify the md5sum of that iso. > I have to run the md5sum cmd against the iso I downloaded and then > copy the sum from the website and manually(visually) compare the two sums. > > After doing this a number of times, i thought there must be a better > way, so I googled > and I read through some man pages and I just don't see the better way. > Am I missing something here? > > Well, since I couldn't find anything I made a script to help me, so here's that: > > #!/bin/bash > > md5sum $1 |awk '{print $1}' > /tmp/mdoutput1.tmp > echo $2 > /tmp/mdoutput2.tmp > diff -q /tmp/mdoutput1.tmp /tmp/mdoutput2.tmp > if [ "$?" != "0" ] > then > #echo "md5sums DON'T match" > printf "\033[1;37;41m***md5sums DON'T MATCH*** \033[1;37;40m\n" > > else > echo "MD5SUMS Match!!!!" > printf "\033[1;37;44m***MD5SUMS MATCH*** \033[1;37;40m\n" > fi > > rm /tmp/mdoutput1.tmp > rm /tmp/mdoutput2.tmp > > Is there a better way? > bb > > -- > Have Mercy & Say Yeah > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From johnalexhebert at gmail.com Thu Nov 5 21:13:51 2009 From: johnalexhebert at gmail.com (John Hebert) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 22:13:51 -0500 Subject: [brlug-general] General Digest, Vol 77, Issue 1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 1:00 PM, wrote: > 1. md5sum and diff? (Brad Bendily) > 2. Re: md5sum and diff? (William Anderson) > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 10:23:16 -0600 > From: William Anderson > > You should be able to just copy the md5sum from a website into a text > file and just let md5sum do a check: > > $ md5sum testfile > 68b329da9893e34099c7d8ad5cb9c940 testfile > $ md5sum testfile > testfile.md5 > $ md5sum -c testfile.md5 > testfile: OK > > The format for the check file is the md5sum, two spaces, and the file > name. You can also specify multiple files, one per line, and check > several files at once (e.g. if your installing a piece of software and > serveral dependencies, you can just download all the tar balls, copy the > md5sum for each into a single file and let md5sum check them all). > > > Nifty. Didn't know about the "-c" flag. I think you missed a file arg in there though? md5sum -c testfile testfile.md5 testfile: OK I'm trying to figure out something even lazier. $ md5sum pcmciafloppy.img | sed 's/*/ /' > local.md5; curl ftp://ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/damnsmall/current/pcmciafloppy.img.md5.txt> remote.md5; diff local.md5 remote.md5 $ How could I use i/o redirection to make it simpler? The diff man page says it can read from the input line, but I'm not sure how to make that work. John -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bendily at gmail.com Thu Nov 5 22:31:53 2009 From: bendily at gmail.com (Brad Bendily) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 22:31:53 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] General Digest, Vol 77, Issue 1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: yeah. it seems to me that using the -c flag is an extra step. that I have to put the sum from the web into a file, then generate a sum on the iso file I have, then add that to the file too, then use the -c to compare? Am i making it more difficult than it really is? at least, to use my script, it does it both at the same time and from one cmd. script.sh filetocheck checksumxxx then it spits out, match or no match. the strange thing is, after googling a bit to find something similar, i found several post where people are saying their sums dont match, but they think they have the same file. I didn't read the details on all the post but it looks possible. bb On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 9:13 PM, John Hebert wrote: > > > On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 1:00 PM, wrote: >> >> ??1. md5sum and diff? (Brad Bendily) >> ? 2. Re: md5sum and diff? (William Anderson) >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 10:23:16 -0600 >> From: William Anderson >> >> You should be able to just copy the md5sum from a website into a text >> file and just let md5sum do a check: >> >> ?$ md5sum testfile >> ?68b329da9893e34099c7d8ad5cb9c940 ?testfile >> ?$ md5sum testfile ?> testfile.md5 >> ?$ md5sum -c testfile.md5 >> ?testfile: OK >> >> The format for the check file is the md5sum, two spaces, and the file >> name. ?You can also specify multiple files, one per line, and check >> several files at once (e.g. if your installing a piece of software and >> serveral dependencies, you can just download all the tar balls, copy the >> md5sum for each into a single file and let md5sum check them all). >> >> > > Nifty. Didn't know about the "-c" flag. I think you missed a file arg in > there though? > md5sum -c testfile testfile.md5 > testfile: OK > I'm trying to figure out something even lazier. > $ md5sum pcmciafloppy.img | sed 's/*/ /' > local.md5; curl > ftp://ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/damnsmall/current/pcmciafloppy.img.md5.txt >> remote.md5;?diff local.md5 remote.md5 > $ > How could I use i/o redirection to make it simpler? The diff man page says > it can read from the input line, but I'm not sure how to make that work. > John > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > -- Have Mercy & Say Yeah From whanders at lasthonorableman.net Fri Nov 6 09:17:32 2009 From: whanders at lasthonorableman.net (William Anderson) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 09:17:32 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] General Digest, Vol 77, Issue 1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20091106151732.GA22361@whanders.dyndns.org> On Thu, Nov 05, 2009 at 10:31:53PM -0600, Brad Bendily wrote: > yeah. it seems to me that using the -c flag is an extra step. that I > have to put the sum from the web > into a file, then generate a sum on the iso file I have, then add that > to the file too, then use the -c to compare? > Am i making it more difficult than it really is? You don't need to do all that; you only need the md5sum from the site. I'm not sure what distro/version you're running but as long as the check file is formatted correctly you should just be able to do: $ md5sum -c checkfile and md5sum will look for a file matching name in the second column, generate a checksum for it, and compare it to the checksum in first column. For a lot of stuff I've used it for, you just need to repeat the same wget command with a .md5 stuck at the end of the filename and the run the `md5sum -c` command against that second file. If you're using something really out of date or a non-GNU md5sum, none of that may be correct. Bill -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I think you missed a file arg in > there though? > md5sum -c testfile testfile.md5 > testfile: OK I've never had to specify the file to check on the command line; it should be in the testfile.md5: $ cat testfile.md5 68b329da9893e34099c7d8ad5cb9c940 testfile $ md5sum -c testfile.md5 testfile: OK > I'm trying to figure out something even lazier. > > $ md5sum pcmciafloppy.img | sed 's/*/ /' > local.md5; curl > ftp://ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/damnsmall/current/pcmciafloppy.img.md5.txt> > remote.md5; diff local.md5 remote.md5 > $ > > How could I use i/o redirection to make it simpler? The diff man page says > it can read from the input line, but I'm not sure how to make that work. > > John I wouldn't even do a diff; something like curl ftp://..../pcmciafloppy.img.md5.txt | md5sum -c - assuming the pcmciafloppy.img.md5.txt is in the write format for your version of md5sum to use and pcmciafloppy.img is in the current directory. 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From dpuryear at puryear-it.com Wed Nov 11 14:37:02 2009 From: dpuryear at puryear-it.com (Dustin Puryear) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:37:02 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] FW: TigerTrap.org Message-ID: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E11283F@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> Looks fun! -----Original Message----- From: Dayle Alsbury [mailto:Dayle.Alsbury at geocent.com] Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 12:10 PM To: Dustin Puryear; Stacy.Manning at LouisianaLottery.com; tome.frazier at bcbsla.com Subject: TigerTrap.org Dustin: Please forward this information to any of your IT pros that may want to participate in the upcoming Tiger Trap cybersecurity event. I have added Tome Frazier and Stacy Manning to this email. If you need more information or documents, we will be happy to help. You can find information on the rules, scenarios, schedules and sign up contacts at http://www.tigertrap.org . As a fellow IT Professional, I want to reach out to you and extend an invitation to participate in the upcoming 2010 Tiger Trap cybersecurity event. This FREE cybersecurity learning exercise will be held in Baton Rouge next spring. It is an exciting and extremely valuable opportunity to learn and train with cybersecurity professionals from across the state. Tiger Trap is annual Louisiana InfraGard sponsored 'Capture the Flag' cybersecurity event designed as an information sharing and hands-on learning opportunity for business, university, state & local government, law enforcement and defense agencies. Participants are vetted by FBI and come from the information security field in such specialties as cyberwarfare, systems & network management, computer programming, intrusion & incident management, digital forensics, penetration testing, IT auditing, & communications security, engage in a real-world hack and defend exercise. How does it work? Each annual event simulates current cyber warfare and cybercrime scenarios which threaten critical cyber assets, information & infrastructure security. The Attack (Red) teams seek to breach target systems constructed by (White Team) subject matter experts in an effort to hijack & control critical systems or steal sensitive information while the defense (Blue) teams attempt to actively defend the network, determine if breach(s) have occurred and counter-attack the Red Team. The annual Tiger Trap learning exercises conclude with classroom instruction by the White Team and round-table discussion on the successful tools & techniques to use and pitfalls to avoid in real world computing environments. The event is designed to foster networking with regional peers on the latest tools, resources and techniques in Information Security. We bring together Technology Professionals from across the state to teach them how to better protect their computer systems from cyber thieves & organized crime. For our 2010 event we have chosen the training theme to involve a fictional brewery because of the unique mixture of computing devices native to such an environment (Windows/Unix/SCADA/etc). The event will culminate with a half-day training session, distribution of a Live CD toolbox, professional networking and a keynote presentation by Billy Austin, CTO of SAINT Corp. SAINT and our other sponsors are contributing prizes and resources, so we expect this event to be both fun and competitive. You can find information on the rules, scenarios, schedules and sign up contacts at http://www.tigertrap.org . If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me at 225-229-0925 or you can email us at info at tigertrap.org. If someone on your team may be interested in participating, please forward this message to them. Thank YOU! Dayle Alsbury Tiger Trap Planning Committee Secretary http://www.tigertrap.org secretary at tigertrap.org info at tigertrap.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Thank you for your interest in Tiger Trap.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 67426 bytes Desc: Thank you for your interest in Tiger Trap.pdf URL: From bendily at gmail.com Wed Nov 11 14:50:49 2009 From: bendily at gmail.com (Brad Bendily) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:50:49 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] FW: TigerTrap.org In-Reply-To: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E11283F@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> References: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E11283F@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> Message-ID: I signed up. Should be fun. On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Dustin Puryear wrote: > Looks fun! > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dayle Alsbury [mailto:Dayle.Alsbury at geocent.com] > Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 12:10 PM > To: Dustin Puryear; Stacy.Manning at LouisianaLottery.com; > tome.frazier at bcbsla.com > Subject: TigerTrap.org > > Dustin: > Please forward this information to any of your IT pros that may want to > participate in the upcoming Tiger Trap cybersecurity event. ?I have > added Tome Frazier and Stacy Manning to this email. ?If you need more > information or documents, we will be happy to help. ?You can find > information on the rules, scenarios, schedules and sign up contacts at > http://www.tigertrap.org . > > > As a fellow IT Professional, I want to reach out to you and extend an > invitation to participate in the upcoming 2010 Tiger Trap cybersecurity > event. ?This FREE cybersecurity learning exercise will be held in Baton > Rouge next spring. ?It is an exciting and extremely valuable opportunity > to learn and train with cybersecurity professionals from across the > state. ?Tiger Trap is annual Louisiana InfraGard sponsored 'Capture the > Flag' cybersecurity event designed as an information sharing and > hands-on learning opportunity for business, university, state & local > government, law enforcement and defense agencies. ?Participants are > vetted by FBI and come from the information security field in such > specialties as cyberwarfare, systems & network management, computer > programming, intrusion & incident management, digital forensics, > penetration testing, IT auditing, & communications security, engage in a > real-world hack and defend exercise. > > How does it work? > > Each annual event simulates current cyber warfare and cybercrime > scenarios which threaten critical cyber assets, information & > infrastructure security. ?The Attack (Red) teams seek to breach target > systems constructed by (White Team) subject matter experts in an effort > to hijack & control critical systems or steal sensitive information > while the defense (Blue) teams attempt to actively defend the network, > determine if breach(s) have occurred and counter-attack the Red Team. > The annual Tiger Trap learning exercises conclude with classroom > instruction by the White Team and round-table discussion on the > successful tools & techniques to use and pitfalls to avoid in real world > computing environments. > > The event is designed to foster networking with regional peers on the > latest tools, resources and techniques in Information Security. ?We > bring together Technology Professionals from across the state to teach > them how to better protect their computer systems from cyber thieves & > organized crime. ?For our 2010 event we have chosen the training theme > to involve a fictional brewery because of the unique mixture of > computing devices native to such an environment > (Windows/Unix/SCADA/etc). ?The event will culminate with a half-day > training session, distribution of a Live CD toolbox, professional > networking and a keynote presentation by Billy Austin, CTO of SAINT > Corp. ?SAINT and our other sponsors are contributing prizes and > resources, so we expect this event to be both fun and competitive. > > You can find information on the rules, scenarios, schedules and sign up > contacts at http://www.tigertrap.org . > > If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me at > 225-229-0925 or you can email us at info at tigertrap.org. > > If someone on your team may be interested in participating, please > forward this message to them. > > Thank YOU! > > > Dayle Alsbury > Tiger Trap Planning Committee Secretary > http://www.tigertrap.org > secretary at tigertrap.org > info at tigertrap.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > -- Have Mercy & Say Yeah From sroddy at gmail.com Wed Nov 11 15:13:15 2009 From: sroddy at gmail.com (Shannon Roddy) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:13:15 +1800 Subject: [brlug-general] FW: TigerTrap.org In-Reply-To: References: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E11283F@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> Message-ID: <8d48b6ba0911111313i557911b0v9a6c236547897a9@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Brad Bendily wrote: > I signed up. > Should be fun. > I hope the backend scoring isn't as badly put together as a recent competition I was involved with. The gov't contractor... well, that's all I'm going to say publicly. From jwhite at pncpa.com Wed Nov 11 17:53:24 2009 From: jwhite at pncpa.com (Jarred White) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:53:24 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] FW: TigerTrap.org In-Reply-To: References: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E11283F@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> Message-ID: I actually told Dayle you weren't interested. He agreed it would probably be best for all if you weren't involved. Something about your odor... -----Original Message----- From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of Brad Bendily Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 2:51 PM To: general at brlug.net Subject: Re: [brlug-general] FW: TigerTrap.org I signed up. Should be fun. On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Dustin Puryear wrote: > Looks fun! > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dayle Alsbury [mailto:Dayle.Alsbury at geocent.com] > Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 12:10 PM > To: Dustin Puryear; Stacy.Manning at LouisianaLottery.com; > tome.frazier at bcbsla.com > Subject: TigerTrap.org > > Dustin: > Please forward this information to any of your IT pros that may want to > participate in the upcoming Tiger Trap cybersecurity event. ?I have > added Tome Frazier and Stacy Manning to this email. ?If you need more > information or documents, we will be happy to help. ?You can find > information on the rules, scenarios, schedules and sign up contacts at > http://www.tigertrap.org . > > > As a fellow IT Professional, I want to reach out to you and extend an > invitation to participate in the upcoming 2010 Tiger Trap cybersecurity > event. ?This FREE cybersecurity learning exercise will be held in Baton > Rouge next spring. ?It is an exciting and extremely valuable opportunity > to learn and train with cybersecurity professionals from across the > state. ?Tiger Trap is annual Louisiana InfraGard sponsored 'Capture the > Flag' cybersecurity event designed as an information sharing and > hands-on learning opportunity for business, university, state & local > government, law enforcement and defense agencies. ?Participants are > vetted by FBI and come from the information security field in such > specialties as cyberwarfare, systems & network management, computer > programming, intrusion & incident management, digital forensics, > penetration testing, IT auditing, & communications security, engage in a > real-world hack and defend exercise. > > How does it work? > > Each annual event simulates current cyber warfare and cybercrime > scenarios which threaten critical cyber assets, information & > infrastructure security. ?The Attack (Red) teams seek to breach target > systems constructed by (White Team) subject matter experts in an effort > to hijack & control critical systems or steal sensitive information > while the defense (Blue) teams attempt to actively defend the network, > determine if breach(s) have occurred and counter-attack the Red Team. > The annual Tiger Trap learning exercises conclude with classroom > instruction by the White Team and round-table discussion on the > successful tools & techniques to use and pitfalls to avoid in real world > computing environments. > > The event is designed to foster networking with regional peers on the > latest tools, resources and techniques in Information Security. ?We > bring together Technology Professionals from across the state to teach > them how to better protect their computer systems from cyber thieves & > organized crime. ?For our 2010 event we have chosen the training theme > to involve a fictional brewery because of the unique mixture of > computing devices native to such an environment > (Windows/Unix/SCADA/etc). ?The event will culminate with a half-day > training session, distribution of a Live CD toolbox, professional > networking and a keynote presentation by Billy Austin, CTO of SAINT > Corp. ?SAINT and our other sponsors are contributing prizes and > resources, so we expect this event to be both fun and competitive. > > You can find information on the rules, scenarios, schedules and sign up > contacts at http://www.tigertrap.org . > > If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me at > 225-229-0925 or you can email us at info at tigertrap.org. > > If someone on your team may be interested in participating, please > forward this message to them. > > Thank YOU! > > > Dayle Alsbury > Tiger Trap Planning Committee Secretary > http://www.tigertrap.org > secretary at tigertrap.org > info at tigertrap.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > -- Have Mercy & Say Yeah _______________________________________________ General mailing list General at brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pursuant to IRS Circular 230 and IRS regulations we inform you that any federal tax advice contained in this communication is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties imposed under the Internal Revenue Code. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Postlethwaite & Netterville Implements New Email Encryption Software to Further Protect Confidential Data Confidentiality is a hallmark of the accounting profession and it is of the utmost importance to our client relationships. At P&,, we are committed to keeping your data confidential which is why we are implementing new email encryption software. This software inspects all outbound emails from our firm. Emails that contain attachments will require you to enter a password to download the file. This ensures that your confidential data cannot be read by anyone other than the intended recipient. Emails with attachments will include a link to a secure web server. Click on the link to download the attachment. The first time you receive a secure email from the firm you will be required to setup a password. This will be your password to access future attachments. For our clients and others, there will be a small step to download the encrypted files; however, we believe the added confidentiality benefits far outweigh the few seconds that are required to access the attachment. If you have questions regarding this new process or if you forget your password, please contact Jessica Aymond, P& Network Administrator, at 225.922.4600. ===================================================================================================== From bendily at gmail.com Wed Nov 11 18:31:20 2009 From: bendily at gmail.com (Brad Bendily) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:31:20 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] FW: TigerTrap.org In-Reply-To: References: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E11283F@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> Message-ID: <37967A95-7C8C-41E2-B29A-1F3824729884@gmail.com> Funny. He told me he needed someone to hold your hand through the event. Something about you're "slow"... On Nov 11, 2009, at 5:53 PM, "Jarred White" wrote: > I actually told Dayle you weren't interested. He agreed it would > probably be best for all if you weren't involved. > > Something about your odor... > > -----Original Message----- > From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] > On Behalf Of Brad Bendily > Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 2:51 PM > To: general at brlug.net > Subject: Re: [brlug-general] FW: TigerTrap.org > > I signed up. > Should be fun. > > On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Dustin Puryear > wrote: >> Looks fun! >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Dayle Alsbury [mailto:Dayle.Alsbury at geocent.com] >> Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 12:10 PM >> To: Dustin Puryear; Stacy.Manning at LouisianaLottery.com; >> tome.frazier at bcbsla.com >> Subject: TigerTrap.org >> >> Dustin: >> Please forward this information to any of your IT pros that may >> want to >> participate in the upcoming Tiger Trap cybersecurity event. I have >> added Tome Frazier and Stacy Manning to this email. If you need more >> information or documents, we will be happy to help. You can find >> information on the rules, scenarios, schedules and sign up contacts >> at >> http://www.tigertrap.org . >> >> >> As a fellow IT Professional, I want to reach out to you and extend an >> invitation to participate in the upcoming 2010 Tiger Trap >> cybersecurity >> event. This FREE cybersecurity learning exercise will be held in >> Baton >> Rouge next spring. It is an exciting and extremely valuable >> opportunity >> to learn and train with cybersecurity professionals from across the >> state. Tiger Trap is annual Louisiana InfraGard sponsored 'Capture >> the >> Flag' cybersecurity event designed as an information sharing and >> hands-on learning opportunity for business, university, state & local >> government, law enforcement and defense agencies. Participants are >> vetted by FBI and come from the information security field in such >> specialties as cyberwarfare, systems & network management, computer >> programming, intrusion & incident management, digital forensics, >> penetration testing, IT auditing, & communications security, engage >> in a >> real-world hack and defend exercise. >> >> How does it work? >> >> Each annual event simulates current cyber warfare and cybercrime >> scenarios which threaten critical cyber assets, information & >> infrastructure security. The Attack (Red) teams seek to breach >> target >> systems constructed by (White Team) subject matter experts in an >> effort >> to hijack & control critical systems or steal sensitive information >> while the defense (Blue) teams attempt to actively defend the >> network, >> determine if breach(s) have occurred and counter-attack the Red Team. >> The annual Tiger Trap learning exercises conclude with classroom >> instruction by the White Team and round-table discussion on the >> successful tools & techniques to use and pitfalls to avoid in real >> world >> computing environments. >> >> The event is designed to foster networking with regional peers on the >> latest tools, resources and techniques in Information Security. We >> bring together Technology Professionals from across the state to >> teach >> them how to better protect their computer systems from cyber >> thieves & >> organized crime. For our 2010 event we have chosen the training >> theme >> to involve a fictional brewery because of the unique mixture of >> computing devices native to such an environment >> (Windows/Unix/SCADA/etc). The event will culminate with a half-day >> training session, distribution of a Live CD toolbox, professional >> networking and a keynote presentation by Billy Austin, CTO of SAINT >> Corp. SAINT and our other sponsors are contributing prizes and >> resources, so we expect this event to be both fun and competitive. >> >> You can find information on the rules, scenarios, schedules and >> sign up >> contacts at http://www.tigertrap.org . >> >> If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me at >> 225-229-0925 or you can email us at info at tigertrap.org. >> >> If someone on your team may be interested in participating, please >> forward this message to them. >> >> Thank YOU! >> >> >> Dayle Alsbury >> Tiger Trap Planning Committee Secretary >> http://www.tigertrap.org >> secretary at tigertrap.org >> info at tigertrap.org >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> General mailing list >> General at brlug.net >> http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net >> >> > > > > -- > Have Mercy & Say Yeah > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > > --- > --- > --- > --- > --- > --- > --- > --- > --- > --- > --- > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Pursuant to IRS Circular 230 and IRS regulations we inform you that > any federal tax advice > contained in this communication is not intended or written to be > used, and cannot be used, > for the purpose of avoiding penalties imposed under the Internal > Revenue Code. > > --- > --- > --- > --- > --- > --- > --- > --- > --- > --- > --- > --- > --- > --- > --- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Postlethwaite & Netterville Implements New Email Encryption Software > to Further Protect Confidential Data > > Confidentiality is a hallmark of the accounting profession and it is > of the utmost importance to our client > relationships. At P&,, we are committed to keeping your data > confidential which is why we are implementing > new email encryption software. This software inspects all outbound > emails from our firm. Emails that > contain attachments will require you to enter a password to download > the file. This ensures that your > confidential data cannot be read by anyone other than the intended > recipient. > > Emails with attachments will include a link to a secure web server. > Click on the link to download the attachment. > The first time you receive a secure email from the firm you will be > required to setup a password. This will > be your password to access future attachments. For our clients and > others, there will be a small step to > download the encrypted files; however, we believe the added > confidentiality benefits far outweigh the few > seconds that are required to access the attachment. > > If you have questions regarding this new process or if you forget > your password, please contact Jessica Aymond, > P& Network Administrator, at 225.922.4600. > === > === > === > === > === > === > === > === > === > === > === > ==================================================================== > > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net From josh at openvideoalliance.org Tue Nov 17 19:18:20 2009 From: josh at openvideoalliance.org (Josh Levy) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:18:20 -0500 Subject: [brlug-general] Open Video Alliance Contest Message-ID: <2b117e380911171718m54aaa4a8w31dafc30768ba49e@mail.gmail.com> *Want to win a trip to South By Southwest 2010? Or maybe a Flip Mino video camera? Read on...* *Open Video in 60 Seconds* The Open Video Alliance is holding a video contest. To enter, just make a video spot explaining open video in 60 seconds or less. Then upload it anywhere and tell us the URL. Our judges?including web luminaries like Jimmy Wales and Mitchell Baker?will pick the best and most creative entries. One lucky winner will be headed to Austin on an expenses-paid trip to SXSW 2010 *, *and three runners-up will get a Flip Mino handheld video camera. The last day to submit a video is January 31, 2010. Head over to the contest page to check out the entries and submit your own video! Complete rules are here . *Need some inspiration?* We've got you covered. Here are some ideas.For more on open video, check out some open video issues . *Who are you?* The Open Video Alliance is a coalition of organizations and individuals devoted to creating and promoting free and open technologies, policies, and practices in online video. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dpuryear at puryear-it.com Thu Nov 19 09:02:34 2009 From: dpuryear at puryear-it.com (Dustin Puryear) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 09:02:34 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] White House to use Drupal? Message-ID: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E11290C@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> Anyone read this story? http://www.intoxination.net/jamie/white-house-breaks-their-silence-move- drupal Interesting! -- Dustin Puryear President and Sr. Consultant Puryear Information Technology, LLC 225-706-8414 x112 http://www.puryear-it.com Author, "Best Practices for Managing Linux and UNIX Servers" http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ From MarkL at lmfj.com Thu Nov 19 09:13:15 2009 From: MarkL at lmfj.com (Mark A. Lappin) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 09:13:15 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] White House to use Drupal? In-Reply-To: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E11290C@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> References: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E11290C@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> Message-ID: <0227B653B3DC82438B8291BC5218612F663F0D7969@lmfjex07.lmfj.com> Yeah, I saw it pop up on Digg.com late last week. I agree...Interesting! ML Mark A. Lappin, CCNA, MCITP: Enterprise Administrator | Lee Michaels Fine Jewelry Director of Information Technology 11314 Cloverland Ave | Baton Rouge, LA 70809 Ph: 225.291.9094 ext 245 | Fax: 225-291-5778 | Mobile: 225-362-2770 www.lmfj.com This communication is privileged and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of this communication . -----Original Message----- From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of Dustin Puryear Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 9:03 AM To: general at brlug.net; nolug at nolug.org Cc: discuss at br-issa.org Subject: [brlug-general] White House to use Drupal? Anyone read this story? http://www.intoxination.net/jamie/white-house-breaks-their-silence-move- drupal Interesting! -- Dustin Puryear President and Sr. Consultant Puryear Information Technology, LLC 225-706-8414 x112 http://www.puryear-it.com Author, "Best Practices for Managing Linux and UNIX Servers" http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ _______________________________________________ General mailing list General at brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net From bendily at gmail.com Thu Nov 19 09:36:18 2009 From: bendily at gmail.com (Brad Bendily) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 09:36:18 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] White House to use Drupal? In-Reply-To: <0227B653B3DC82438B8291BC5218612F663F0D7969@lmfjex07.lmfj.com> References: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E11290C@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> <0227B653B3DC82438B8291BC5218612F663F0D7969@lmfjex07.lmfj.com> Message-ID: Hmmm, yes, i agree, shallow and pedantic. On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 9:13 AM, Mark A. Lappin wrote: > Yeah, I saw it pop up on Digg.com late last week. ? I agree...Interesting! > > ML > > > > > Mark A. Lappin, CCNA, MCITP: Enterprise Administrator | Lee Michaels Fine Jewelry > Director of Information Technology > 11314 Cloverland Ave ?| Baton Rouge, LA 70809 > Ph: 225.291.9094 ext 245 | Fax: 225-291-5778 ?| Mobile: ?225-362-2770 > www.lmfj.com > > > > This communication is privileged and confidential. ?If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of this communication . > -----Original Message----- > From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of Dustin Puryear > Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 9:03 AM > To: general at brlug.net; nolug at nolug.org > Cc: discuss at br-issa.org > Subject: [brlug-general] White House to use Drupal? > > Anyone read this story? > > http://www.intoxination.net/jamie/white-house-breaks-their-silence-move- > drupal > > Interesting! > > -- > Dustin Puryear > President and Sr. Consultant > Puryear Information Technology, LLC > 225-706-8414 x112 > http://www.puryear-it.com > > Author, "Best Practices for Managing Linux and UNIX Servers" > ?http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > -- Have Mercy & Say Yeah From dpuryear at puryear-it.com Thu Nov 19 10:31:49 2009 From: dpuryear at puryear-it.com (Dustin Puryear) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:31:49 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] White House to use Drupal? Message-ID: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E112919@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> Yeah, what he said! Wait, huh? Drupal is shallow and pedantic? Does that make vi weighty and fortuitist? -----Original Message----- From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of Brad Bendily Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 9:36 AM To: general at brlug.net Subject: Re: [brlug-general] White House to use Drupal? Hmmm, yes, i agree, shallow and pedantic. On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 9:13 AM, Mark A. Lappin wrote: > Yeah, I saw it pop up on Digg.com late last week. ? I agree...Interesting! > > ML > > > > > Mark A. Lappin, CCNA, MCITP: Enterprise Administrator | Lee Michaels Fine Jewelry > Director of Information Technology > 11314 Cloverland Ave ?| Baton Rouge, LA 70809 > Ph: 225.291.9094 ext 245 | Fax: 225-291-5778 ?| Mobile: ?225-362-2770 > www.lmfj.com > > > > This communication is privileged and confidential. ?If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of this communication . > -----Original Message----- > From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of Dustin Puryear > Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 9:03 AM > To: general at brlug.net; nolug at nolug.org > Cc: discuss at br-issa.org > Subject: [brlug-general] White House to use Drupal? > > Anyone read this story? > > http://www.intoxination.net/jamie/white-house-breaks-their-silence-move- > drupal > > Interesting! > > -- > Dustin Puryear > President and Sr. Consultant > Puryear Information Technology, LLC > 225-706-8414 x112 > http://www.puryear-it.com > > Author, "Best Practices for Managing Linux and UNIX Servers" > ?http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > -- Have Mercy & Say Yeah _______________________________________________ General mailing list General at brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net From mat.branyon at gmail.com Thu Nov 19 10:37:13 2009 From: mat.branyon at gmail.com (mat branyon) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 09:37:13 -0700 Subject: [brlug-general] White House to use Drupal? In-Reply-To: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E112919@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> References: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E112919@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> Message-ID: wow, i thought this was old news. saw it on reddit months ago, along with a (seemingly biased) review on how much drupal sucks. nice to see open source used like that, just hope they admin it properly On Nov 19, 2009 9:32 AM, "Dustin Puryear" wrote: Yeah, what he said! Wait, huh? Drupal is shallow and pedantic? Does that make vi weighty and fortuitist? -----Original Message----- From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto: general-bounces at brlug.net] On Be... Subject: Re: [brlug-general] White House to use Drupal? Hmmm, yes, i agree, shallow and pedantic. ... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Does that make vi weighty and fortuitist? -----Original Message----- From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Be... Subject: Re: [brlug-general] White House to use Drupal? Hmmm, yes, i agree, shallow and pedantic. ... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jwhite at pncpa.com Thu Nov 19 12:47:20 2009 From: jwhite at pncpa.com (Jarred White) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:47:20 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] White House to use Drupal? In-Reply-To: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E11291C@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> References: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E11291C@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> Message-ID: Ew... twitter. From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of Dustin Puryear Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 10:47 AM To: general at brlug.net Subject: Re: [brlug-general] White House to use Drupal? Well, I'm behind on the times, what can I say. I got it from Twitter of all things. I NEED TO CATCH UP. ________________________________ From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of mat branyon Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 10:37 AM To: general at brlug.net Subject: Re: [brlug-general] White House to use Drupal? wow, i thought this was old news. saw it on reddit months ago, along with a (seemingly biased) review on how much drupal sucks. nice to see open source used like that, just hope they admin it properly On Nov 19, 2009 9:32 AM, "Dustin Puryear" wrote: Yeah, what he said! Wait, huh? Drupal is shallow and pedantic? Does that make vi weighty and fortuitist? -----Original Message----- From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Be... Subject: Re: [brlug-general] White House to use Drupal? Hmmm, yes, i agree, shallow and pedantic. ... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pursuant to IRS Circular 230 and IRS regulations we inform you that any federal tax advice contained in this communication is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties imposed under the Internal Revenue Code. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Postlethwaite & Netterville Implements New Email Encryption Software to Further Protect Confidential Data Confidentiality is a hallmark of the accounting profession and it is of the utmost importance to our client relationships. At P&,, we are committed to keeping your data confidential which is why we are implementing new email encryption software. This software inspects all outbound emails from our firm. Emails that contain attachments will require you to enter a password to download the file. This ensures that your confidential data cannot be read by anyone other than the intended recipient. Emails with attachments will include a link to a secure web server. Click on the link to download the attachment. The first time you receive a secure email from the firm you will be required to setup a password. This will be your password to access future attachments. For our clients and others, there will be a small step to download the encrypted files; however, we believe the added confidentiality benefits far outweigh the few seconds that are required to access the attachment. If you have questions regarding this new process or if you forget your password, please contact Jessica Aymond, P& Network Administrator, at 225.922.4600. ===================================================================================================== -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sroddy at gmail.com Thu Nov 19 13:00:25 2009 From: sroddy at gmail.com (Shannon Roddy) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:00:25 +1800 Subject: [brlug-general] White House to use Drupal? In-Reply-To: References: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E11291C@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> Message-ID: <8d48b6ba0911191100l1b1c161eu99885c02da7317ea@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Jarred White wrote: > Ew? twitter. Ew. Stupid email disclaimers. http://attrition.org/security/rants/z/disclaimers.html > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Pursuant to IRS Circular 230 and IRS regulations we inform you that any > federal tax advice > contained in this communication is not intended or written to be used, and > cannot be used, > for the purpose of avoiding penalties imposed under the Internal Revenue > Code. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Postlethwaite & Netterville Implements New Email Encryption Software to > Further Protect Confidential Data > > Confidentiality is a hallmark of the accounting profession and it is of the > utmost importance to our client > relationships. At P&N, we are committed to keeping your data confidential > which is why we are implementing > new email encryption software. This software inspects all outbound emails > from our firm. Emails that > contain attachments will require you to enter a password to download the > file. This ensures that your > confidential data cannot be read by anyone other than the intended > recipient. > > Emails with attachments will include a link to a secure web server. Click > on the link to download the attachment. > The first time you receive a secure email from the firm you will be required > to setup a password. This will > be your password to access future attachments. For our clients and others, > there will be a small step to > download the encrypted files; however, we believe the added confidentiality > benefits far outweigh the few > seconds that are required to access the attachment. > > If you have questions regarding this new process or if you forget your > password, please contact Jessica Aymond, > P&N Network Administrator, at 225.922.4600. > ===================================================================================================== > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > From jwhite at pncpa.com Thu Nov 19 14:16:57 2009 From: jwhite at pncpa.com (Jarred White) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:16:57 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] White House to use Drupal? In-Reply-To: <8d48b6ba0911191100l1b1c161eu99885c02da7317ea@mail.gmail.com> References: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E11291C@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> <8d48b6ba0911191100l1b1c161eu99885c02da7317ea@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Yeah, if you don't like it I'd suggest that you follow the advice in that article and email P&N, guy :\ kthx -----Original Message----- From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of Shannon Roddy Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 1:00 PM To: general at brlug.net Subject: Re: [brlug-general] White House to use Drupal? On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Jarred White wrote: > Ew... twitter. Ew. Stupid email disclaimers. http://attrition.org/security/rants/z/disclaimers.html > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------------------- > Pursuant to IRS Circular 230 and IRS regulations we inform you that any > federal tax advice > contained in this communication is not intended or written to be used, and > cannot be used, > for the purpose of avoiding penalties imposed under the Internal Revenue > Code. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------ > Postlethwaite & Netterville Implements New Email Encryption Software to > Further Protect Confidential Data > > Confidentiality is a hallmark of the accounting profession and it is of the > utmost importance to our client > relationships. At P&N, we are committed to keeping your data confidential > which is why we are implementing > new email encryption software. This software inspects all outbound emails > from our firm. Emails that > contain attachments will require you to enter a password to download the > file. This ensures that your > confidential data cannot be read by anyone other than the intended > recipient. > > Emails with attachments will include a link to a secure web server. Click > on the link to download the attachment. > The first time you receive a secure email from the firm you will be required > to setup a password. This will > be your password to access future attachments. For our clients and others, > there will be a small step to > download the encrypted files; however, we believe the added confidentiality > benefits far outweigh the few > seconds that are required to access the attachment. > > If you have questions regarding this new process or if you forget your > password, please contact Jessica Aymond, > P&N Network Administrator, at 225.922.4600. > ======================================================================== ============================= > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > _______________________________________________ General mailing list General at brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pursuant to IRS Circular 230 and IRS regulations we inform you that any federal tax advice contained in this communication is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties imposed under the Internal Revenue Code. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Postlethwaite & Netterville Implements New Email Encryption Software to Further Protect Confidential Data Confidentiality is a hallmark of the accounting profession and it is of the utmost importance to our client relationships. At P&,, we are committed to keeping your data confidential which is why we are implementing new email encryption software. This software inspects all outbound emails from our firm. Emails that contain attachments will require you to enter a password to download the file. This ensures that your confidential data cannot be read by anyone other than the intended recipient. Emails with attachments will include a link to a secure web server. Click on the link to download the attachment. The first time you receive a secure email from the firm you will be required to setup a password. This will be your password to access future attachments. For our clients and others, there will be a small step to download the encrypted files; however, we believe the added confidentiality benefits far outweigh the few seconds that are required to access the attachment. If you have questions regarding this new process or if you forget your password, please contact Jessica Aymond, P& Network Administrator, at 225.922.4600. ===================================================================================================== From dpuryear at puryear-it.com Thu Nov 19 14:28:59 2009 From: dpuryear at puryear-it.com (Dustin Puryear) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:28:59 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] White House to use Drupal? Message-ID: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E112933@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> OMG he called you "guy"! ;-) -----Original Message----- From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of Jarred White Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 2:17 PM To: general at brlug.net Subject: Re: [brlug-general] White House to use Drupal? Yeah, if you don't like it I'd suggest that you follow the advice in that article and email P&N, guy :\ kthx -----Original Message----- From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of Shannon Roddy Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 1:00 PM To: general at brlug.net Subject: Re: [brlug-general] White House to use Drupal? On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Jarred White wrote: > Ew... twitter. Ew. Stupid email disclaimers. http://attrition.org/security/rants/z/disclaimers.html > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------------------- > Pursuant to IRS Circular 230 and IRS regulations we inform you that any > federal tax advice > contained in this communication is not intended or written to be used, and > cannot be used, > for the purpose of avoiding penalties imposed under the Internal Revenue > Code. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------ > Postlethwaite & Netterville Implements New Email Encryption Software to > Further Protect Confidential Data > > Confidentiality is a hallmark of the accounting profession and it is of the > utmost importance to our client > relationships. At P&N, we are committed to keeping your data confidential > which is why we are implementing > new email encryption software. This software inspects all outbound emails > from our firm. Emails that > contain attachments will require you to enter a password to download the > file. This ensures that your > confidential data cannot be read by anyone other than the intended > recipient. > > Emails with attachments will include a link to a secure web server. Click > on the link to download the attachment. > The first time you receive a secure email from the firm you will be required > to setup a password. This will > be your password to access future attachments. For our clients and others, > there will be a small step to > download the encrypted files; however, we believe the added confidentiality > benefits far outweigh the few > seconds that are required to access the attachment. > > If you have questions regarding this new process or if you forget your > password, please contact Jessica Aymond, > P&N Network Administrator, at 225.922.4600. > ======================================================================== ============================= > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > _______________________________________________ General mailing list General at brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------------------- Pursuant to IRS Circular 230 and IRS regulations we inform you that any federal tax advice contained in this communication is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties imposed under the Internal Revenue Code. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------ Postlethwaite & Netterville Implements New Email Encryption Software to Further Protect Confidential Data Confidentiality is a hallmark of the accounting profession and it is of the utmost importance to our client relationships. At P&,, we are committed to keeping your data confidential which is why we are implementing new email encryption software. This software inspects all outbound emails from our firm. Emails that contain attachments will require you to enter a password to download the file. This ensures that your confidential data cannot be read by anyone other than the intended recipient. Emails with attachments will include a link to a secure web server. Click on the link to download the attachment. The first time you receive a secure email from the firm you will be required to setup a password. This will be your password to access future attachments. For our clients and others, there will be a small step to download the encrypted files; however, we believe the added confidentiality benefits far outweigh the few seconds that are required to access the attachment. If you have questions regarding this new process or if you forget your password, please contact Jessica Aymond, P& Network Administrator, at 225.922.4600. ======================================================================== ============================= _______________________________________________ General mailing list General at brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net From dpuryear at puryear-it.com Thu Nov 19 14:30:30 2009 From: dpuryear at puryear-it.com (Dustin Puryear) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:30:30 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] White House to use Drupal? Message-ID: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E112934@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> Actually, thinking on this even after my oh-so-funny reply (okay, not really), I think legal disclaimers are now like top-postings: You just have to get over it. It's too late. Move on. Oh, also like using "hacker" for someone that does bad things. It's just kind of part of the deal now. :) -----Original Message----- From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of Jarred White Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 2:17 PM To: general at brlug.net Subject: Re: [brlug-general] White House to use Drupal? Yeah, if you don't like it I'd suggest that you follow the advice in that article and email P&N, guy :\ kthx -----Original Message----- From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of Shannon Roddy Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 1:00 PM To: general at brlug.net Subject: Re: [brlug-general] White House to use Drupal? On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Jarred White wrote: > Ew... twitter. Ew. Stupid email disclaimers. http://attrition.org/security/rants/z/disclaimers.html > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------------------- > Pursuant to IRS Circular 230 and IRS regulations we inform you that any > federal tax advice > contained in this communication is not intended or written to be used, and > cannot be used, > for the purpose of avoiding penalties imposed under the Internal Revenue > Code. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------ > Postlethwaite & Netterville Implements New Email Encryption Software to > Further Protect Confidential Data > > Confidentiality is a hallmark of the accounting profession and it is of the > utmost importance to our client > relationships. At P&N, we are committed to keeping your data confidential > which is why we are implementing > new email encryption software. This software inspects all outbound emails > from our firm. Emails that > contain attachments will require you to enter a password to download the > file. This ensures that your > confidential data cannot be read by anyone other than the intended > recipient. > > Emails with attachments will include a link to a secure web server. Click > on the link to download the attachment. > The first time you receive a secure email from the firm you will be required > to setup a password. This will > be your password to access future attachments. For our clients and others, > there will be a small step to > download the encrypted files; however, we believe the added confidentiality > benefits far outweigh the few > seconds that are required to access the attachment. > > If you have questions regarding this new process or if you forget your > password, please contact Jessica Aymond, > P&N Network Administrator, at 225.922.4600. > ======================================================================== ============================= > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > _______________________________________________ General mailing list General at brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------------------- Pursuant to IRS Circular 230 and IRS regulations we inform you that any federal tax advice contained in this communication is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties imposed under the Internal Revenue Code. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------ Postlethwaite & Netterville Implements New Email Encryption Software to Further Protect Confidential Data Confidentiality is a hallmark of the accounting profession and it is of the utmost importance to our client relationships. At P&,, we are committed to keeping your data confidential which is why we are implementing new email encryption software. This software inspects all outbound emails from our firm. Emails that contain attachments will require you to enter a password to download the file. This ensures that your confidential data cannot be read by anyone other than the intended recipient. Emails with attachments will include a link to a secure web server. Click on the link to download the attachment. The first time you receive a secure email from the firm you will be required to setup a password. This will be your password to access future attachments. For our clients and others, there will be a small step to download the encrypted files; however, we believe the added confidentiality benefits far outweigh the few seconds that are required to access the attachment. If you have questions regarding this new process or if you forget your password, please contact Jessica Aymond, P& Network Administrator, at 225.922.4600. ======================================================================== ============================= _______________________________________________ General mailing list General at brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net From jwhite at pncpa.com Thu Nov 19 14:34:09 2009 From: jwhite at pncpa.com (Jarred White) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:34:09 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] White House to use Drupal? In-Reply-To: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E112934@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> References: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E112934@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> Message-ID: I mean, I realize they make your emails a half a k larger in size or so, but is it really that big a deal? Then again I am pretty annoyed when people use big images in their signatures on forums... but that's something they can directly control. I can't control this, except to get a new job. :P -----Original Message----- From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of Dustin Puryear Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 2:31 PM To: general at brlug.net Subject: Re: [brlug-general] White House to use Drupal? Actually, thinking on this even after my oh-so-funny reply (okay, not really), I think legal disclaimers are now like top-postings: You just have to get over it. It's too late. Move on. Oh, also like using "hacker" for someone that does bad things. It's just kind of part of the deal now. :) -----Original Message----- From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of Jarred White Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 2:17 PM To: general at brlug.net Subject: Re: [brlug-general] White House to use Drupal? Yeah, if you don't like it I'd suggest that you follow the advice in that article and email P&N, guy :\ kthx -----Original Message----- From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of Shannon Roddy Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 1:00 PM To: general at brlug.net Subject: Re: [brlug-general] White House to use Drupal? On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Jarred White wrote: > Ew... twitter. Ew. Stupid email disclaimers. http://attrition.org/security/rants/z/disclaimers.html > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------------------- > Pursuant to IRS Circular 230 and IRS regulations we inform you that any > federal tax advice > contained in this communication is not intended or written to be used, and > cannot be used, > for the purpose of avoiding penalties imposed under the Internal Revenue > Code. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------ > Postlethwaite & Netterville Implements New Email Encryption Software to > Further Protect Confidential Data > > Confidentiality is a hallmark of the accounting profession and it is of the > utmost importance to our client > relationships. At P&N, we are committed to keeping your data confidential > which is why we are implementing > new email encryption software. This software inspects all outbound emails > from our firm. Emails that > contain attachments will require you to enter a password to download the > file. This ensures that your > confidential data cannot be read by anyone other than the intended > recipient. > > Emails with attachments will include a link to a secure web server. Click > on the link to download the attachment. > The first time you receive a secure email from the firm you will be required > to setup a password. This will > be your password to access future attachments. For our clients and others, > there will be a small step to > download the encrypted files; however, we believe the added confidentiality > benefits far outweigh the few > seconds that are required to access the attachment. > > If you have questions regarding this new process or if you forget your > password, please contact Jessica Aymond, > P&N Network Administrator, at 225.922.4600. > ======================================================================== ============================= > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > _______________________________________________ General mailing list General at brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------------------- Pursuant to IRS Circular 230 and IRS regulations we inform you that any federal tax advice contained in this communication is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties imposed under the Internal Revenue Code. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------ Postlethwaite & Netterville Implements New Email Encryption Software to Further Protect Confidential Data Confidentiality is a hallmark of the accounting profession and it is of the utmost importance to our client relationships. At P&,, we are committed to keeping your data confidential which is why we are implementing new email encryption software. This software inspects all outbound emails from our firm. Emails that contain attachments will require you to enter a password to download the file. This ensures that your confidential data cannot be read by anyone other than the intended recipient. Emails with attachments will include a link to a secure web server. Click on the link to download the attachment. The first time you receive a secure email from the firm you will be required to setup a password. This will be your password to access future attachments. For our clients and others, there will be a small step to download the encrypted files; however, we believe the added confidentiality benefits far outweigh the few seconds that are required to access the attachment. If you have questions regarding this new process or if you forget your password, please contact Jessica Aymond, P& Network Administrator, at 225.922.4600. ======================================================================== ============================= _______________________________________________ General mailing list General at brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net _______________________________________________ General mailing list General at brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pursuant to IRS Circular 230 and IRS regulations we inform you that any federal tax advice contained in this communication is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties imposed under the Internal Revenue Code. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Postlethwaite & Netterville Implements New Email Encryption Software to Further Protect Confidential Data Confidentiality is a hallmark of the accounting profession and it is of the utmost importance to our client relationships. At P&,, we are committed to keeping your data confidential which is why we are implementing new email encryption software. This software inspects all outbound emails from our firm. Emails that contain attachments will require you to enter a password to download the file. This ensures that your confidential data cannot be read by anyone other than the intended recipient. Emails with attachments will include a link to a secure web server. Click on the link to download the attachment. The first time you receive a secure email from the firm you will be required to setup a password. This will be your password to access future attachments. For our clients and others, there will be a small step to download the encrypted files; however, we believe the added confidentiality benefits far outweigh the few seconds that are required to access the attachment. If you have questions regarding this new process or if you forget your password, please contact Jessica Aymond, P& Network Administrator, at 225.922.4600. ===================================================================================================== From dpuryear at puryear-it.com Thu Nov 19 15:40:03 2009 From: dpuryear at puryear-it.com (Dustin Puryear) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:40:03 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] White House to use Drupal? Message-ID: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E112942@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> No, it's not. Just part of email these days. Kind of like getting a stupid Plaxo update request every several days. God those are annoying. -----Original Message----- From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of Jarred White Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 2:34 PM To: general at brlug.net Subject: Re: [brlug-general] White House to use Drupal? I mean, I realize they make your emails a half a k larger in size or so, but is it really that big a deal? Then again I am pretty annoyed when people use big images in their signatures on forums... but that's something they can directly control. I can't control this, except to get a new job. :P -----Original Message----- From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of Dustin Puryear Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 2:31 PM To: general at brlug.net Subject: Re: [brlug-general] White House to use Drupal? Actually, thinking on this even after my oh-so-funny reply (okay, not really), I think legal disclaimers are now like top-postings: You just have to get over it. It's too late. Move on. Oh, also like using "hacker" for someone that does bad things. It's just kind of part of the deal now. :) -----Original Message----- From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of Jarred White Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 2:17 PM To: general at brlug.net Subject: Re: [brlug-general] White House to use Drupal? Yeah, if you don't like it I'd suggest that you follow the advice in that article and email P&N, guy :\ kthx -----Original Message----- From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of Shannon Roddy Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 1:00 PM To: general at brlug.net Subject: Re: [brlug-general] White House to use Drupal? On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Jarred White wrote: > Ew... twitter. Ew. Stupid email disclaimers. http://attrition.org/security/rants/z/disclaimers.html > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------------------- > Pursuant to IRS Circular 230 and IRS regulations we inform you that any > federal tax advice > contained in this communication is not intended or written to be used, and > cannot be used, > for the purpose of avoiding penalties imposed under the Internal Revenue > Code. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------ > Postlethwaite & Netterville Implements New Email Encryption Software to > Further Protect Confidential Data > > Confidentiality is a hallmark of the accounting profession and it is of the > utmost importance to our client > relationships. At P&N, we are committed to keeping your data confidential > which is why we are implementing > new email encryption software. This software inspects all outbound emails > from our firm. Emails that > contain attachments will require you to enter a password to download the > file. This ensures that your > confidential data cannot be read by anyone other than the intended > recipient. > > Emails with attachments will include a link to a secure web server. Click > on the link to download the attachment. > The first time you receive a secure email from the firm you will be required > to setup a password. This will > be your password to access future attachments. For our clients and others, > there will be a small step to > download the encrypted files; however, we believe the added confidentiality > benefits far outweigh the few > seconds that are required to access the attachment. > > If you have questions regarding this new process or if you forget your > password, please contact Jessica Aymond, > P&N Network Administrator, at 225.922.4600. > ======================================================================== ============================= > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > _______________________________________________ General mailing list General at brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------------------- Pursuant to IRS Circular 230 and IRS regulations we inform you that any federal tax advice contained in this communication is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties imposed under the Internal Revenue Code. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------ Postlethwaite & Netterville Implements New Email Encryption Software to Further Protect Confidential Data Confidentiality is a hallmark of the accounting profession and it is of the utmost importance to our client relationships. At P&,, we are committed to keeping your data confidential which is why we are implementing new email encryption software. This software inspects all outbound emails from our firm. Emails that contain attachments will require you to enter a password to download the file. This ensures that your confidential data cannot be read by anyone other than the intended recipient. Emails with attachments will include a link to a secure web server. Click on the link to download the attachment. The first time you receive a secure email from the firm you will be required to setup a password. This will be your password to access future attachments. For our clients and others, there will be a small step to download the encrypted files; however, we believe the added confidentiality benefits far outweigh the few seconds that are required to access the attachment. If you have questions regarding this new process or if you forget your password, please contact Jessica Aymond, P& Network Administrator, at 225.922.4600. ======================================================================== ============================= _______________________________________________ General mailing list General at brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net _______________________________________________ General mailing list General at brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------------------- Pursuant to IRS Circular 230 and IRS regulations we inform you that any federal tax advice contained in this communication is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties imposed under the Internal Revenue Code. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------ Postlethwaite & Netterville Implements New Email Encryption Software to Further Protect Confidential Data Confidentiality is a hallmark of the accounting profession and it is of the utmost importance to our client relationships. At P&,, we are committed to keeping your data confidential which is why we are implementing new email encryption software. This software inspects all outbound emails from our firm. Emails that contain attachments will require you to enter a password to download the file. This ensures that your confidential data cannot be read by anyone other than the intended recipient. Emails with attachments will include a link to a secure web server. Click on the link to download the attachment. The first time you receive a secure email from the firm you will be required to setup a password. This will be your password to access future attachments. For our clients and others, there will be a small step to download the encrypted files; however, we believe the added confidentiality benefits far outweigh the few seconds that are required to access the attachment. If you have questions regarding this new process or if you forget your password, please contact Jessica Aymond, P& Network Administrator, at 225.922.4600. ======================================================================== ============================= _______________________________________________ General mailing list General at brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net From sroddy at gmail.com Thu Nov 19 15:48:33 2009 From: sroddy at gmail.com (Shannon Roddy) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:48:33 +1800 Subject: [brlug-general] White House to use Drupal? In-Reply-To: References: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E112934@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> Message-ID: <8d48b6ba0911191348j76aa4f13lbb1bd7efd4295b42@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 2:34 PM, Jarred White wrote: > I can't control this, except to get a new job. :P You could not use your work email for posting to the list. :P From jwhite at pncpa.com Thu Nov 19 18:13:17 2009 From: jwhite at pncpa.com (Jarred White) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:13:17 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] White House to use Drupal? In-Reply-To: <8d48b6ba0911191348j76aa4f13lbb1bd7efd4295b42@mail.gmail.com> References: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E112934@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> <8d48b6ba0911191348j76aa4f13lbb1bd7efd4295b42@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I guess that's true. -----Original Message----- From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of Shannon Roddy Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 3:49 PM To: general at brlug.net Subject: Re: [brlug-general] White House to use Drupal? On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 2:34 PM, Jarred White wrote: > I can't control this, except to get a new job. :P You could not use your work email for posting to the list. :P _______________________________________________ General mailing list General at brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pursuant to IRS Circular 230 and IRS regulations we inform you that any federal tax advice contained in this communication is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties imposed under the Internal Revenue Code. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Postlethwaite & Netterville Implements New Email Encryption Software to Further Protect Confidential Data Confidentiality is a hallmark of the accounting profession and it is of the utmost importance to our client relationships. At P&,, we are committed to keeping your data confidential which is why we are implementing new email encryption software. This software inspects all outbound emails from our firm. Emails that contain attachments will require you to enter a password to download the file. This ensures that your confidential data cannot be read by anyone other than the intended recipient. Emails with attachments will include a link to a secure web server. Click on the link to download the attachment. The first time you receive a secure email from the firm you will be required to setup a password. This will be your password to access future attachments. For our clients and others, there will be a small step to download the encrypted files; however, we believe the added confidentiality benefits far outweigh the few seconds that are required to access the attachment. If you have questions regarding this new process or if you forget your password, please contact Jessica Aymond, P& Network Administrator, at 225.922.4600. ===================================================================================================== From dpuryear at puryear-it.com Fri Nov 20 13:12:22 2009 From: dpuryear at puryear-it.com (Dustin Puryear) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:12:22 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] Need help with perl, cookies, forms, oh my! Message-ID: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E112955@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> Okay, am looking for some professional help with some perl code for a prototype we need to build. Part of what we're doing here involves pulling and updating data on a web app, and we need some help in getting this going fast as we need to focus on some other elements. If you are familiar with LWP::UserAgent and parsing out some complicated forms to automate things via perl or python, then email me off-list with your rate. We'd be happy to hand this off to you. -- Dustin Puryear President and Sr. Consultant Puryear Information Technology, LLC 225-706-8414 x112 http://www.puryear-it.com Author, "Best Practices for Managing Linux and UNIX Servers" http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ From saf at lakeshoregroup.com Fri Nov 20 13:24:09 2009 From: saf at lakeshoregroup.com (Scott French) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:24:09 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] Question on online backups Message-ID: <4B06ECD9.9030409@lakeshoregroup.com> I haven't posted before, but been on the list for a while. We have had several customers asking about online backups. I haven't ever used any and just wanted some ideas. Would need Linux, Windows, and Mac clients. Any input would be welcome. -- Scott French Vice President Lakeshore Group, Ltd. 5723 Superior Drive A-1 Baton Rouge, LA 70816 W:225-292-7422 F:225-291-0882 www.lakeshoregroup.com Hours 8 - 5 Central -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: saf.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 372 bytes Desc: not available URL: From keiths at neill.net Fri Nov 20 13:30:51 2009 From: keiths at neill.net (Keith Stokes) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:30:51 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] Question on online backups In-Reply-To: <4B06ECD9.9030409@lakeshoregroup.com> References: <4B06ECD9.9030409@lakeshoregroup.com> Message-ID: I've used Amazon S3 personally on Windows and Mac. Not intensive but enough to put a few GB here and there. No complaints so far. -- Keith Stokes On Nov 20, 2009, at 1:24 PM, Scott French wrote: > I haven't posted before, but been on the list for a while. > > We have had several customers asking about online backups. I haven't > ever used any and just wanted some ideas. Would need Linux, Windows, > and Mac clients. > > Any input would be welcome. > > -- > Scott French > Vice President > > Lakeshore Group, Ltd. > 5723 Superior Drive A-1 > Baton Rouge, LA 70816 > W:225-292-7422 > F:225-291-0882 > www.lakeshoregroup.com > > Hours 8 - 5 Central > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net From MarkL at lmfj.com Fri Nov 20 14:10:51 2009 From: MarkL at lmfj.com (Mark A. Lappin) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:10:51 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] Question on online backups In-Reply-To: <4B06ECD9.9030409@lakeshoregroup.com> References: <4B06ECD9.9030409@lakeshoregroup.com> Message-ID: <0227B653B3DC82438B8291BC5218612F6644DD339A@lmfjex07.lmfj.com> I use Carbonite @ home and don't have any problems (although I've never had to do a complete restore). My father's computer uses Dell's backup system and again, no problems, simple but have not had to test restore *knock on wood*. My brother's company uses Mozi online backup and loves it, has restored computers completely twice without trouble (other than the amount of time it takes). They don't have servers just workstations, no domain, no AD, a lot of their business is "in the cloud" at this point. Lee Michaels is using NTG/Venyu's system without trouble for _some_ of our backups. I've not had to do a complete restore and am not configured for bare-metal restores but the individual file restores I've had to do have been painless (other than I mistyped my encryption key which caused a brief moment of panic). I've looked at Barracuda's backup model but am not completely convinced it would provide any benefit over what I use now (a combination of tape and online). With Barracuda you have to buy a box which you put at the site, back up to it and then it backs up to 2 places for you. I could not get some of my technical questions answered however and decided not to pursue it. A smaller company might be OK but their entry level devices are to small and the "big" ones were to big. Mark @ LMFJ Mark A. Lappin, CCNA, MCITP: Enterprise Administrator | Lee Michaels Fine Jewelry Director of Information Technology 11314 Cloverland Ave | Baton Rouge, LA 70809 Ph: 225.291.9094 ext 245 | Fax: 225-291-5778 | Mobile: 225-362-2770 www.lmfj.com This communication is privileged and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of this communication . -----Original Message----- From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of Scott French Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 1:24 PM To: general at brlug.net Subject: [brlug-general] Question on online backups I haven't posted before, but been on the list for a while. We have had several customers asking about online backups. I haven't ever used any and just wanted some ideas. Would need Linux, Windows, and Mac clients. Any input would be welcome. -- Scott French Vice President Lakeshore Group, Ltd. 5723 Superior Drive A-1 Baton Rouge, LA 70816 W:225-292-7422 F:225-291-0882 www.lakeshoregroup.com Hours 8 - 5 Central From gremln007 at gmail.com Fri Nov 20 15:01:06 2009 From: gremln007 at gmail.com (Jonathan Roberts) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:01:06 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] Question on online backups In-Reply-To: <4B06ECD9.9030409@lakeshoregroup.com> References: <4B06ECD9.9030409@lakeshoregroup.com> Message-ID: JungleDisk makes Amazon S3 backups very easy. There are a ton of Amazon S3 methods - some pre-built and some libraries. JD does Windows, Mac and Linux. ** I have not updated our JD client software since they were acquired by Rackspace. I'm not sure if anything has changed. I also recommend BackupPC for the actual backup of the data. Once consolidated (and de-duped!) by BackupPC, you can then back it up to wherever you like. http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ http://www.jungledisk.com/ Hope this helps, Jonathan On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Scott French wrote: > I haven't posted before, but been on the list for a while. > > We have had several customers asking about online backups. I haven't ever > used any and just wanted some ideas. Would need Linux, Windows, and Mac > clients. > > Any input would be welcome. > > -- > Scott French > Vice President > > Lakeshore Group, Ltd. > 5723 Superior Drive A-1 > Baton Rouge, LA 70816 > W:225-292-7422 > F:225-291-0882 > www.lakeshoregroup.com > > Hours 8 - 5 Central > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ray at ops.selu.edu Mon Nov 23 11:13:38 2009 From: ray at ops.selu.edu (-ray) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:13:38 -0600 (CST) Subject: [brlug-general] The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. Message-ID: The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/hiner/?p=3372&tag=nl.e102 -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ray DeJean http://www.r-a-y.org Systems Engineer Southeastern Louisiana University IBM Certified Specialist AIX Administration, AIX Support =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From jwhite at pncpa.com Mon Nov 23 14:49:39 2009 From: jwhite at pncpa.com (Jarred White) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:49:39 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hah, great article. Thanks for sharing. -----Original Message----- From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of -ray Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 11:14 AM To: general at brlug.net Subject: [brlug-general] The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/hiner/?p=3372&tag=nl.e102 -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ray DeJean http://www.r-a-y.org Systems Engineer Southeastern Louisiana University IBM Certified Specialist AIX Administration, AIX Support =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= _______________________________________________ General mailing list General at brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pursuant to IRS Circular 230 and IRS regulations we inform you that any federal tax advice contained in this communication is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties imposed under the Internal Revenue Code. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Postlethwaite & Netterville Implements New Email Encryption Software to Further Protect Confidential Data Confidentiality is a hallmark of the accounting profession and it is of the utmost importance to our client relationships. At P&,, we are committed to keeping your data confidential which is why we are implementing new email encryption software. This software inspects all outbound emails from our firm. Emails that contain attachments will require you to enter a password to download the file. This ensures that your confidential data cannot be read by anyone other than the intended recipient. Emails with attachments will include a link to a secure web server. Click on the link to download the attachment. The first time you receive a secure email from the firm you will be required to setup a password. This will be your password to access future attachments. For our clients and others, there will be a small step to download the encrypted files; however, we believe the added confidentiality benefits far outweigh the few seconds that are required to access the attachment. If you have questions regarding this new process or if you forget your password, please contact Jessica Aymond, P& Network Administrator, at 225.922.4600. ===================================================================================================== From questy at gmail.com Mon Nov 23 15:25:09 2009 From: questy at gmail.com (Jerald Sheets) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:25:09 -0500 Subject: [brlug-general] The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <79d511080911231325w7782cf9rf32067b561b799e2@mail.gmail.com> The false assumption I keep seeing being made, though, is that techies wind up choosing Windows because they prefer it. That is *NOT* the case. I have used Linux as my primary desktop now for almost a decade. Most often, I am required by $WORK to carry a windows desktop. That means they *force *me to do so. Unless you have some specific app that is only available in Win-land, there is no reason to use Windows on the desktop any more, except when brain-dead $WORK demands it. Brain-dead pointy-haired bosses have rejected Linux on the desktop. Get over it. --- Jerald M. Sheets jr. On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Jarred White wrote: > Hah, great article. Thanks for sharing. > > -----Original Message----- > From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On > Behalf Of -ray > Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 11:14 AM > To: general at brlug.net > Subject: [brlug-general] The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get > over it. > > > The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. > http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/hiner/?p=3372&tag=nl.e102 > > -- > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > Ray DeJean http://www.r-a-y.org > Systems Engineer Southeastern Louisiana University > IBM Certified Specialist AIX Administration, AIX Support > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Pursuant to IRS Circular 230 and IRS regulations we inform you that any > federal tax advice > contained in this communication is not intended or written to be used, and > cannot be used, > for the purpose of avoiding penalties imposed under the Internal Revenue > Code. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Postlethwaite & Netterville Implements New Email Encryption Software to > Further Protect Confidential Data > > Confidentiality is a hallmark of the accounting profession and it is of the > utmost importance to our client > relationships. At P&,, we are committed to keeping your data confidential > which is why we are implementing > new email encryption software. This software inspects all outbound emails > from our firm. Emails that > contain attachments will require you to enter a password to download the > file. This ensures that your > confidential data cannot be read by anyone other than the intended > recipient. > > Emails with attachments will include a link to a secure web server. Click > on the link to download the attachment. > The first time you receive a secure email from the firm you will be > required to setup a password. This will > be your password to access future attachments. For our clients and others, > there will be a small step to > download the encrypted files; however, we believe the added confidentiality > benefits far outweigh the few > seconds that are required to access the attachment. > > If you have questions regarding this new process or if you forget your > password, please contact Jessica Aymond, > P& Network Administrator, at 225.922.4600. > > ===================================================================================================== > > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mat.branyon at gmail.com Mon Nov 23 15:49:38 2009 From: mat.branyon at gmail.com (mat branyon) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:49:38 -0700 Subject: [brlug-general] The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. In-Reply-To: <79d511080911231325w7782cf9rf32067b561b799e2@mail.gmail.com> References: <79d511080911231325w7782cf9rf32067b561b799e2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: regardless of what the article says, i still use linux as my desktop. also as my server, and now my phone too. as for work, i managed to convince vp pointy hair that i need linux as my desktop, but i still run windows in a vm for office. just my .02 On Nov 23, 2009 2:25 PM, "Jerald Sheets" wrote: The false assumption I keep seeing being made, though, is that techies wind up choosing Windows because they prefer it. That is *NOT* the case. I have used Linux as my primary desktop now for almost a decade. Most often, I am required by $WORK to carry a windows desktop. That means they *force *me to do so. Unless you have some specific app that is only available in Win-land, there is no reason to use Windows on the desktop any more, except when brain-dead $WORK demands it. Brain-dead pointy-haired bosses have rejected Linux on the desktop. Get over it. --- Jerald M. Sheets jr. On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Jarred White wrote: > > Hah, great article. T... _______________________________________________ General mailing list General at brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tfournet at tfour.net Mon Nov 23 15:55:23 2009 From: tfournet at tfour.net (Tim Fournet) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:55:23 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. In-Reply-To: References: <79d511080911231325w7782cf9rf32067b561b799e2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: That brings an important point - How exactly do you measure the market for a Free product? That's like saying "there is no market for *air* because the sales of air are terrible" Sure, nobody's making money from it, but that doesn't mean that air has no fit in the workplace. YOU try going to work and not using any air. On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 3:49 PM, mat branyon wrote: > regardless of what the article says, i still use linux as my desktop. also > as my server, and now my phone too. > > as for work, i managed to convince vp pointy hair that i need linux as my > desktop, but i still run windows in a vm for office. > > just my .02 > > On Nov 23, 2009 2:25 PM, "Jerald Sheets" wrote: > > The false assumption I keep seeing being made, though, is that techies wind > up choosing Windows because they prefer it. > > That is *NOT* the case. I have used Linux as my primary desktop now for > almost a decade. Most often, I am required by $WORK to carry a windows > desktop. That means they *force *me to do so. > > Unless you have some specific app that is only available in Win-land, there > is no reason to use Windows on the desktop any more, except when brain-dead > $WORK demands it. > > Brain-dead pointy-haired bosses have rejected Linux on the desktop. Get > over it. > > --- > Jerald M. Sheets jr. > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Jarred White wrote: > > > Hah, great article. T... > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mat.branyon at gmail.com Mon Nov 23 16:10:07 2009 From: mat.branyon at gmail.com (mat branyon) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:10:07 -0700 Subject: [brlug-general] The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. In-Reply-To: References: <79d511080911231325w7782cf9rf32067b561b799e2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: i dont like adobe products On Nov 23, 2009 2:55 PM, "Tim Fournet" wrote: That brings an important point - How exactly do you measure the market for a Free product? That's like saying "there is no market for *air* because the sales of air are terrible" Sure, nobody's making money from it, but that doesn't mean that air has no fit in the workplace. YOU try going to work and not using any air. On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 3:49 PM, mat branyon wrote: > > regardless of wh... _______________________________________________ General mailing list General at brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jwhite at pncpa.com Mon Nov 23 16:46:58 2009 From: jwhite at pncpa.com (Jarred White) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:46:58 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. In-Reply-To: References: <79d511080911231325w7782cf9rf32067b561b799e2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I'll build another Linux desktop when I can play Diablo III on it. From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of mat branyon Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 4:10 PM To: general at brlug.net Subject: Re: [brlug-general] The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. i dont like adobe products On Nov 23, 2009 2:55 PM, "Tim Fournet" wrote: That brings an important point - How exactly do you measure the market for a Free product? That's like saying "there is no market for air because the sales of air are terrible" Sure, nobody's making money from it, but that doesn't mean that air has no fit in the workplace. YOU try going to work and not using any air. On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 3:49 PM, mat branyon wrote: > > regardless of wh... _______________________________________________ General mailing list General at brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pursuant to IRS Circular 230 and IRS regulations we inform you that any federal tax advice contained in this communication is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties imposed under the Internal Revenue Code. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Postlethwaite & Netterville Implements New Email Encryption Software to Further Protect Confidential Data Confidentiality is a hallmark of the accounting profession and it is of the utmost importance to our client relationships. At P&,, we are committed to keeping your data confidential which is why we are implementing new email encryption software. This software inspects all outbound emails from our firm. Emails that contain attachments will require you to enter a password to download the file. This ensures that your confidential data cannot be read by anyone other than the intended recipient. Emails with attachments will include a link to a secure web server. Click on the link to download the attachment. The first time you receive a secure email from the firm you will be required to setup a password. This will be your password to access future attachments. For our clients and others, there will be a small step to download the encrypted files; however, we believe the added confidentiality benefits far outweigh the few seconds that are required to access the attachment. If you have questions regarding this new process or if you forget your password, please contact Jessica Aymond, P& Network Administrator, at 225.922.4600. ===================================================================================================== -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From questy at gmail.com Mon Nov 23 16:51:37 2009 From: questy at gmail.com (Jerald Sheets) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:51:37 -0500 Subject: [brlug-general] The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. In-Reply-To: References: <79d511080911231325w7782cf9rf32067b561b799e2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <79d511080911231451x7ac36127xb9fd9d06e78b866@mail.gmail.com> It isn't always about the games, but Diablo III works with Crossover, IIRC... --- Jerald M. Sheets jr. On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 5:46 PM, Jarred White wrote: > I?ll build another Linux desktop when I can play Diablo III on it. > > > > *From:* general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] *On > Behalf Of *mat branyon > *Sent:* Monday, November 23, 2009 4:10 PM > *To:* general at brlug.net > *Subject:* Re: [brlug-general] The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get > over it. > > > > i dont like adobe products > > On Nov 23, 2009 2:55 PM, "Tim Fournet" wrote: > > That brings an important point - How exactly do you measure the market for > a Free product? > > > > That's like saying "there is no market for *air* because the sales of air > are terrible" > > > > Sure, nobody's making money from it, but that doesn't mean that air has no > fit in the workplace. YOU try going to work and not using any air. > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 3:49 PM, mat branyon > wrote: > > regardless of wh... > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Pursuant to IRS Circular 230 and IRS regulations we inform you that any federal tax advice > contained in this communication is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, > for the purpose of avoiding penalties imposed under the Internal Revenue Code. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Postlethwaite & Netterville Implements New Email Encryption Software to Further Protect Confidential Data > > Confidentiality is a hallmark of the accounting profession and it is of the utmost importance to our client > relationships. At P&N, we are committed to keeping your data confidential which is why we are implementing > new email encryption software. This software inspects all outbound emails from our firm. Emails that > contain attachments will require you to enter a password to download the file. This ensures that your > confidential data cannot be read by anyone other than the intended recipient. > > Emails with attachments will include a link to a secure web server. Click on the link to download the attachment. > The first time you receive a secure email from the firm you will be required to setup a password. This will > be your password to access future attachments. For our clients and others, there will be a small step to > download the encrypted files; however, we believe the added confidentiality benefits far outweigh the few > seconds that are required to access the attachment. > > If you have questions regarding this new process or if you forget your password, please contact Jessica Aymond, > P&N Network Administrator, at 225.922.4600. > ===================================================================================================== > > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rgilkey at gmail.com Mon Nov 23 16:54:29 2009 From: rgilkey at gmail.com (Ronnie Gilkey) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:54:29 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. In-Reply-To: <79d511080911231451x7ac36127xb9fd9d06e78b866@mail.gmail.com> References: <79d511080911231325w7782cf9rf32067b561b799e2@mail.gmail.com> <79d511080911231451x7ac36127xb9fd9d06e78b866@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B0B12A5.1090108@gmail.com> Crossover provides a really nice set of functionality for running applications with Wine. You can even use it to run Microsoft Office.... ronnie Jerald Sheets wrote: > It isn't always about the games, but Diablo III works with Crossover, > IIRC... > > > --- > Jerald M. Sheets jr. > > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 5:46 PM, Jarred White > wrote: > > I?ll build another Linux desktop when I can play Diablo III on it. > > > > *From:* general-bounces at brlug.net > > [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net > ] *On Behalf Of *mat branyon > *Sent:* Monday, November 23, 2009 4:10 PM > *To:* general at brlug.net > *Subject:* Re: [brlug-general] The market has rejected Linux > desktops. Get over it. > > > > i dont like adobe products > > On Nov 23, 2009 2:55 PM, "Tim Fournet" > wrote: > > That brings an important point - How exactly do you measure > the market for a Free product? > > > > That's like saying "there is no market for *air* because the > sales of air are terrible" > > > > Sure, nobody's making money from it, but that doesn't mean > that air has no fit in the workplace. YOU try going to work > and not using any air. > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 3:49 PM, mat branyon > > wrote: > > > regardless of wh... > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Pursuant to IRS Circular 230 and IRS regulations we inform you that any federal tax advice > contained in this communication is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, > for the purpose of avoiding penalties imposed under the Internal Revenue Code. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Postlethwaite & Netterville Implements New Email Encryption Software to Further Protect Confidential Data > > Confidentiality is a hallmark of the accounting profession and it is of the utmost importance to our client > relationships. At P&N, we are committed to keeping your data confidential which is why we are implementing > new email encryption software. This software inspects all outbound emails from our firm. Emails that > contain attachments will require you to enter a password to download the file. This ensures that your > confidential data cannot be read by anyone other than the intended recipient. > > Emails with attachments will include a link to a secure web server. Click on the link to download the attachment. > The first time you receive a secure email from the firm you will be required to setup a password. This will > be your password to access future attachments. For our clients and others, there will be a small step to > download the encrypted files; however, we believe the added confidentiality benefits far outweigh the few > seconds that are required to access the attachment. > > If you have questions regarding this new process or if you forget your password, please contact Jessica Aymond, > P&N Network Administrator, at 225.922.4600. > ===================================================================================================== > > > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jwhite at pncpa.com Mon Nov 23 16:57:09 2009 From: jwhite at pncpa.com (Jarred White) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:57:09 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. In-Reply-To: <79d511080911231451x7ac36127xb9fd9d06e78b866@mail.gmail.com> References: <79d511080911231325w7782cf9rf32067b561b799e2@mail.gmail.com> <79d511080911231451x7ac36127xb9fd9d06e78b866@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Diablo III isn't out yet, so that's doubtful. But maybe it will work with crossover. It's not prohibitively expensive to own a Windows machine that is capable of playing semi-new games. It is a pain in the ass, however, to get games to behave appropriately on Linux, so it's not generally worth the headache. :\ If you guys are like me, you probably have several desktops/laptops/servers anyway, so the idea of having to be exclusively Linux has always seemed really strange to me. From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of Jerald Sheets Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 4:52 PM To: general at brlug.net Subject: Re: [brlug-general] The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. It isn't always about the games, but Diablo III works with Crossover, IIRC... --- Jerald M. Sheets jr. On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 5:46 PM, Jarred White wrote: I'll build another Linux desktop when I can play Diablo III on it. From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of mat branyon Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 4:10 PM To: general at brlug.net Subject: Re: [brlug-general] The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. i dont like adobe products On Nov 23, 2009 2:55 PM, "Tim Fournet" wrote: That brings an important point - How exactly do you measure the market for a Free product? That's like saying "there is no market for air because the sales of air are terrible" Sure, nobody's making money from it, but that doesn't mean that air has no fit in the workplace. YOU try going to work and not using any air. On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 3:49 PM, mat branyon wrote: > > regardless of wh... _______________________________________________ General mailing list General at brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------------------- Pursuant to IRS Circular 230 and IRS regulations we inform you that any federal tax advice contained in this communication is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties imposed under the Internal Revenue Code. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------ Postlethwaite & Netterville Implements New Email Encryption Software to Further Protect Confidential Data Confidentiality is a hallmark of the accounting profession and it is of the utmost importance to our client relationships. At P&N, we are committed to keeping your data confidential which is why we are implementing new email encryption software. This software inspects all outbound emails from our firm. Emails that contain attachments will require you to enter a password to download the file. This ensures that your confidential data cannot be read by anyone other than the intended recipient. Emails with attachments will include a link to a secure web server. Click on the link to download the attachment. The first time you receive a secure email from the firm you will be required to setup a password. This will be your password to access future attachments. For our clients and others, there will be a small step to download the encrypted files; however, we believe the added confidentiality benefits far outweigh the few seconds that are required to access the attachment. If you have questions regarding this new process or if you forget your password, please contact Jessica Aymond, P&N Network Administrator, at 225.922.4600. ======================================================================== ============================= _______________________________________________ General mailing list General at brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pursuant to IRS Circular 230 and IRS regulations we inform you that any federal tax advice contained in this communication is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties imposed under the Internal Revenue Code. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Postlethwaite & Netterville Implements New Email Encryption Software to Further Protect Confidential Data Confidentiality is a hallmark of the accounting profession and it is of the utmost importance to our client relationships. At P&,, we are committed to keeping your data confidential which is why we are implementing new email encryption software. This software inspects all outbound emails from our firm. Emails that contain attachments will require you to enter a password to download the file. This ensures that your confidential data cannot be read by anyone other than the intended recipient. Emails with attachments will include a link to a secure web server. Click on the link to download the attachment. The first time you receive a secure email from the firm you will be required to setup a password. This will be your password to access future attachments. For our clients and others, there will be a small step to download the encrypted files; however, we believe the added confidentiality benefits far outweigh the few seconds that are required to access the attachment. 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On Nov 23, 2009 3:49 PM, "Jarred White" wrote: I?ll build another Linux desktop when I can play Diablo III on it. *From:* general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] *On Behalf Of *mat branyon *Sent:* Monday, November 23, 2009 4:10 PM *To:* general at brlug.net *Subject:* Re: [brlug-general] The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. i dont like adobe products > > On Nov 23, 2009 2:55 PM, "Tim Fournet" < tfournet at tfour.net> wrot... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pursuant to IRS Circular 230 and IRS regulations we inform you that any federal tax advice contained in this communication is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties imposed under the Internal Revenue Code. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Postlethwaite & Netterville Implements New Email Encryption Software to Further Protect Confidential Data Confidentiality is a hallmark of the accounting profession and it is of the utmost importance to our client relationships. At P&N, we are committed to keeping your data confidential which is why we are implementing new email encryption software. This software inspects all outbound emails from our firm. Emails that contain attachments will require you to enter a password to download the file. This ensures that your confidential data cannot be read by anyone other than the intended recipient. Emails with attachments will include a link to a secure web server. Click on the link to download the attachment. The first time you receive a secure email from the firm you will be required to setup a password. This will be your password to access future attachments. For our clients and others, there will be a small step to download the encrypted files; however, we believe the added confidentiality benefits far outweigh the few seconds that are required to access the attachment. 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In-Reply-To: <4B0B12A5.1090108@gmail.com> References: <79d511080911231325w7782cf9rf32067b561b799e2@mail.gmail.com> <79d511080911231451x7ac36127xb9fd9d06e78b866@mail.gmail.com> <4B0B12A5.1090108@gmail.com> Message-ID: Why would you want to run MS Office, other than possibly PowerPoint (evil in itself) when you can run OO? I gave up on MS Office years ago on Windows and totally once they ported it to native OS X instead of through X. (X on OS X is a pain) On Nov 23, 2009, at 4:54 PM, Ronnie Gilkey wrote: > Crossover provides a really nice set of functionality for running > applications with Wine. You can even use it to run Microsoft > Office.... > > ronnie > > Jerald Sheets wrote: >> >> It isn't always about the games, but Diablo III works with >> Crossover, IIRC... >> >> >> --- >> Jerald M. Sheets jr. >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 5:46 PM, Jarred White >> wrote: >> I?ll build another Linux desktop when I can play Diablo III on it. >> >> >> From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] >> On Behalf Of mat branyon >> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 4:10 PM >> To: general at brlug.net >> Subject: Re: [brlug-general] The market has rejected Linux >> desktops. Get over it. >> >> >> i dont like adobe products >> >> On Nov 23, 2009 2:55 PM, "Tim Fournet" wrote: >> >> That brings an important point - How exactly do you measure the >> market for a Free product? >> >> >> That's like saying "there is no market for air because the sales of >> air are terrible" >> >> >> Sure, nobody's making money from it, but that doesn't mean that air >> has no fit in the workplace. YOU try going to work and not using >> any air. >> >> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 3:49 PM, mat branyon >> wrote: > > regardless of wh... >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> General mailing list >> General at brlug.net >> http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Pursuant to IRS Circular 230 and IRS regulations we inform you that >> any federal tax advice >> contained in this communication is not intended or written to be >> used, and cannot be used, >> for the purpose of avoiding penalties imposed under the Internal >> Revenue Code. >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Postlethwaite & Netterville Implements New Email Encryption >> Software to Further Protect Confidential Data >> >> Confidentiality is a hallmark of the accounting profession and it >> is of the utmost importance to our client >> relationships. 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URL: From rburyc1 at gmail.com Mon Nov 23 18:10:03 2009 From: rburyc1 at gmail.com (Ryan Burychka) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:10:03 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Linux is gradually gaining ground in the server market because of growing stability and a decrease in maintenance costs (more people are becoming familiar with Linux server administration). I don't ever see it "taking over" any of the market, but at some point it may come close to an equal share. My point is that Linux is currently better suited for owning server market-share. The desktop market will be controlled by MS and Apple for years to come - most non-technical people don't even realize there's an alternative. Ryan On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 11:13 AM, -ray wrote: > > The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. > http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/hiner/?p=3372&tag=nl.e102 > > -- > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > Ray DeJean http://www.r-a-y.org > Systems Engineer Southeastern Louisiana University > IBM Certified Specialist AIX Administration, AIX Support > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From questy at gmail.com Mon Nov 23 19:40:45 2009 From: questy at gmail.com (Jerald Sheets) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:40:45 -0500 Subject: [brlug-general] The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. In-Reply-To: References: <79d511080911231325w7782cf9rf32067b561b799e2@mail.gmail.com> <79d511080911231451x7ac36127xb9fd9d06e78b866@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <29B7EAFD-C79A-4E8E-86B0-FC54446C9B33@gmail.com> All UNIX-based here. Whether Linux on my servers or OSX on my laptop (I don't own a desktop) I'm 100% UNIX. And if I didn't need Finale Music software and PyWare Drill design software, I'd have a slamming Linux box on my lap right now. No need for anything more. --j On Nov 23, 2009, at 5:57 PM, Jarred White wrote: > Diablo III isn?t out yet, so that?s doubtful. But maybe it will work with crossover. > > It?s not prohibitively expensive to own a Windows machine that is capable of playing semi-new games. It is a pain in the ass, however, to get games to behave appropriately on Linux, so it?s not generally worth the headache. :\ > > If you guys are like me, you probably have several desktops/laptops/servers anyway, so the idea of having to be exclusively Linux has always seemed really strange to me. > > From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of Jerald Sheets > Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 4:52 PM > To: general at brlug.net > Subject: Re: [brlug-general] The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. > > It isn't always about the games, but Diablo III works with Crossover, IIRC... > > > --- > Jerald M. Sheets jr. > > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 5:46 PM, Jarred White wrote: > I?ll build another Linux desktop when I can play Diablo III on it. > > From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of mat branyon > Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 4:10 PM > To: general at brlug.net > Subject: Re: [brlug-general] The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. > > i dont like adobe products > > On Nov 23, 2009 2:55 PM, "Tim Fournet" wrote: > > That brings an important point - How exactly do you measure the market for a Free product? > > That's like saying "there is no market for air because the sales of air are terrible" > > Sure, nobody's making money from it, but that doesn't mean that air has no fit in the workplace. YOU try going to work and not using any air. > On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 3:49 PM, mat branyon wrote: > > regardless of wh... > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Pursuant to IRS Circular 230 and IRS regulations we inform you that any federal tax advice > contained in this communication is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, > for the purpose of avoiding penalties imposed under the Internal Revenue Code. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Postlethwaite & Netterville Implements New Email Encryption Software to Further Protect Confidential Data > > Confidentiality is a hallmark of the accounting profession and it is of the utmost importance to our client > relationships. At P&N, we are committed to keeping your data confidential which is why we are implementing > new email encryption software. This software inspects all outbound emails from our firm. Emails that > contain attachments will require you to enter a password to download the file. This ensures that your > confidential data cannot be read by anyone other than the intended recipient. > > Emails with attachments will include a link to a secure web server. Click on the link to download the attachment. > The first time you receive a secure email from the firm you will be required to setup a password. This will > be your password to access future attachments. For our clients and others, there will be a small step to > download the encrypted files; however, we believe the added confidentiality benefits far outweigh the few > seconds that are required to access the attachment. > > If you have questions regarding this new process or if you forget your password, please contact Jessica Aymond, > P&N Network Administrator, at 225.922.4600. > ===================================================================================================== > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Pursuant to IRS Circular 230 and IRS regulations we inform you that any federal tax advice > contained in this communication is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, > for the purpose of avoiding penalties imposed under the Internal Revenue Code. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Postlethwaite & Netterville Implements New Email Encryption Software to Further Protect Confidential Data > > Confidentiality is a hallmark of the accounting profession and it is of the utmost importance to our client > relationships. At P&N, we are committed to keeping your data confidential which is why we are implementing > new email encryption software. This software inspects all outbound emails from our firm. Emails that > contain attachments will require you to enter a password to download the file. This ensures that your > confidential data cannot be read by anyone other than the intended recipient. > > Emails with attachments will include a link to a secure web server. Click on the link to download the attachment. > The first time you receive a secure email from the firm you will be required to setup a password. This will > be your password to access future attachments. For our clients and others, there will be a small step to > download the encrypted files; however, we believe the added confidentiality benefits far outweigh the few > seconds that are required to access the attachment. > > If you have questions regarding this new process or if you forget your password, please contact Jessica Aymond, > P&N Network Administrator, at 225.922.4600. > ===================================================================================================== > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From questy at gmail.com Mon Nov 23 19:41:28 2009 From: questy at gmail.com (Jerald Sheets) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:41:28 -0500 Subject: [brlug-general] The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. In-Reply-To: References: <79d511080911231325w7782cf9rf32067b561b799e2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44A454B8-9E97-47A2-9537-457895148433@gmail.com> Then D2 is what I am recalling. Not a gamer anymore. Sorry. :) --j On Nov 23, 2009, at 6:00 PM, mat branyon wrote: > i'll build another desktop when d3 is actually released. are you waiting for duke nukem too... man, that game is going to own > > for those that don't know, wikipedia has d3's release date scheduled for 2011. i'm sure bt then linux will be king, and microsoft just some minor princess we marry off to keep our funny uncle occupied. > > >> On Nov 23, 2009 3:49 PM, "Jarred White" wrote: >> >> I?ll build another Linux desktop when I can play Diablo III on it. >> >> >> From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of mat branyon >> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 4:10 PM >> To: general at brlug.net >> Subject: Re: [brlug-general] The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. >> >> i dont like adobe products > > On Nov 23, 2009 2:55 PM, "Tim Fournet" wrot... >> >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Pursuant to IRS Circular 230 and IRS regulations we inform you that any federal tax advice >> contained in this communication is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, >> for the purpose of avoiding penalties imposed under the Internal Revenue Code. >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Postlethwaite & Netterville Implements New Email Encryption Software to Further Protect Confidential Data >> >> Confidentiality is a hallmark of the accounting profession and it is of the utmost importance to our client >> relationships. At P&N, we are committed to keeping your data confidential which is why we are implementing >> new email encryption software. This software inspects all outbound emails from our firm. Emails that >> contain attachments will require you to enter a password to download the file. This ensures that your >> confidential data cannot be read by anyone other than the intended recipient. >> >> Emails with attachments will include a link to a secure web server. Click on the link to download the attachment. >> The first time you receive a secure email from the firm you will be required to setup a password. This will >> be your password to access future attachments. 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URL: From questy at gmail.com Mon Nov 23 19:43:35 2009 From: questy at gmail.com (Jerald Sheets) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:43:35 -0500 Subject: [brlug-general] The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Since I've moved to Atlanta, I've been directly in touch with over 5000 Linux systems whereas I've only seen about 20 commercial UNIX boxes. I think at least in the huge install space, Linux has already taken over. --j On Nov 23, 2009, at 7:10 PM, Ryan Burychka wrote: > Linux is gradually gaining ground in the server market because of growing stability and a decrease in maintenance costs (more people are becoming familiar with Linux server administration). I don't ever see it "taking over" any of the market, but at some point it may come close to an equal share. > > My point is that Linux is currently better suited for owning server market-share. The desktop market will be controlled by MS and Apple for years to come - most non-technical people don't even realize there's an alternative. > > Ryan > > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 11:13 AM, -ray wrote: > > The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. > http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/hiner/?p=3372&tag=nl.e102 > > -- > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > Ray DeJean http://www.r-a-y.org > Systems Engineer Southeastern Louisiana University > IBM Certified Specialist AIX Administration, AIX Support > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gremln007 at gmail.com Tue Nov 24 05:13:59 2009 From: gremln007 at gmail.com (Jonathan Roberts) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 05:13:59 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I think you're absolutely right. I also think that virtualization is helping move Linux onto more servers (virtual but still). It is becoming so easy to have a web server template or server template in your choice for virtualization software. A few commands or clicks and you have a shiny new server pre-configured requiring only minor customization for the project/task. I am amazed at how well Linux (and Windows too, to a lesser extent) operates as VM's. Jonathan On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Ryan Burychka wrote: > Linux is gradually gaining ground in the server market because of growing > stability and a decrease in maintenance costs (more people are becoming > familiar with Linux server administration). I don't ever see it "taking > over" any of the market, but at some point it may come close to an equal > share. > > My point is that Linux is currently better suited for owning server > market-share. The desktop market will be controlled by MS and Apple for > years to come - most non-technical people don't even realize there's an > alternative. > > Ryan > > > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 11:13 AM, -ray wrote: > >> >> The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. >> http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/hiner/?p=3372&tag=nl.e102 >> >> -- >> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> Ray DeJean http://www.r-a-y.org >> Systems Engineer Southeastern Louisiana University >> IBM Certified Specialist AIX Administration, AIX Support >> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> General mailing list >> General at brlug.net >> http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net >> > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jwhite at pncpa.com Tue Nov 24 08:38:34 2009 From: jwhite at pncpa.com (Jarred White) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 08:38:34 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. In-Reply-To: <44A454B8-9E97-47A2-9537-457895148433@gmail.com> References: <79d511080911231325w7782cf9rf32067b561b799e2@mail.gmail.com> <44A454B8-9E97-47A2-9537-457895148433@gmail.com> Message-ID: Yeaaaah.... D2 might work, but I've been there, done that. ;) To Blizzard's credit, they usually release games where the CDs/DVDs have installers for both Windows and Mac versions, which is pretty cool. We have a Mac in the house, but it's not really specced for gaming. And anyone remember that Halo was going to be released on PC/Linux before MS bought Bungie? :) From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of Jerald Sheets Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 7:41 PM To: general at brlug.net Subject: Re: [brlug-general] The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. Then D2 is what I am recalling. Not a gamer anymore. Sorry. :) --j On Nov 23, 2009, at 6:00 PM, mat branyon wrote: i'll build another desktop when d3 is actually released. are you waiting for duke nukem too... man, that game is going to own for those that don't know, wikipedia has d3's release date scheduled for 2011. i'm sure bt then linux will be king, and microsoft just some minor princess we marry off to keep our funny uncle occupied. On Nov 23, 2009 3:49 PM, "Jarred White" wrote: I'll build another Linux desktop when I can play Diablo III on it. From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of mat branyon Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 4:10 PM To: general at brlug.net Subject: Re: [brlug-general] The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. i dont like adobe products > > On Nov 23, 2009 2:55 PM, "Tim Fournet" wrot... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------------------- Pursuant to IRS Circular 230 and IRS regulations we inform you that any federal tax advice contained in this communication is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties imposed under the Internal Revenue Code. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------ Postlethwaite & Netterville Implements New Email Encryption Software to Further Protect Confidential Data Confidentiality is a hallmark of the accounting profession and it is of the utmost importance to our client relationships. At P&N, we are committed to keeping your data confidential which is why we are implementing new email encryption software. This software inspects all outbound emails from our firm. Emails that contain attachments will require you to enter a password to download the file. This ensures that your confidential data cannot be read by anyone other than the intended recipient. Emails with attachments will include a link to a secure web server. Click on the link to download the attachment. The first time you receive a secure email from the firm you will be required to setup a password. This will be your password to access future attachments. For our clients and others, there will be a small step to download the encrypted files; however, we believe the added confidentiality benefits far outweigh the few seconds that are required to access the attachment. If you have questions regarding this new process or if you forget your password, please contact Jessica Aymond, P&N Network Administrator, at 225.922.4600. ======================================================================== ============================= _______________________________________________ General mailing list General at brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net _______________________________________________ General mailing list General at brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pursuant to IRS Circular 230 and IRS regulations we inform you that any federal tax advice contained in this communication is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties imposed under the Internal Revenue Code. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Postlethwaite & Netterville Implements New Email Encryption Software to Further Protect Confidential Data Confidentiality is a hallmark of the accounting profession and it is of the utmost importance to our client relationships. At P&,, we are committed to keeping your data confidential which is why we are implementing new email encryption software. This software inspects all outbound emails from our firm. Emails that contain attachments will require you to enter a password to download the file. This ensures that your confidential data cannot be read by anyone other than the intended recipient. Emails with attachments will include a link to a secure web server. Click on the link to download the attachment. The first time you receive a secure email from the firm you will be required to setup a password. This will be your password to access future attachments. For our clients and others, there will be a small step to download the encrypted files; however, we believe the added confidentiality benefits far outweigh the few seconds that are required to access the attachment. 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It's rare, very rare, for me to see Linux on the desktop, even if a company runs Linux exclusively in the data center. ________________________________ From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of Jerald Sheets Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 3:25 PM To: general at brlug.net Subject: Re: [brlug-general] The market has rejected Linux desktops. Getover it. The false assumption I keep seeing being made, though, is that techies wind up choosing Windows because they prefer it. That is NOT the case. I have used Linux as my primary desktop now for almost a decade. Most often, I am required by $WORK to carry a windows desktop. That means they force me to do so. Unless you have some specific app that is only available in Win-land, there is no reason to use Windows on the desktop any more, except when brain-dead $WORK demands it. Brain-dead pointy-haired bosses have rejected Linux on the desktop. Get over it. --- Jerald M. Sheets jr. On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Jarred White wrote: Hah, great article. Thanks for sharing. -----Original Message----- From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of -ray Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 11:14 AM To: general at brlug.net Subject: [brlug-general] The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. The market has rejected Linux desktops. 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Too many issues with odd formatting, etc. Now, this may have improved in the last year.. We made the decision based on business needs. We need our documents to be easily usable by us and by our clients. That trumps everything else for us. ________________________________________ From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of Keith Stokes Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 5:07 PM To: general at brlug.net Subject: Re: [brlug-general] The market has rejected Linux desktops. Getover it. Why would you want to run MS Office, other than possibly PowerPoint (evil in itself) when you can run OO? I gave up on MS Office years ago on Windows and totally once they ported it to native OS X instead of through X. (X on OS X is a pain) ? On Nov 23, 2009, at 4:54 PM, Ronnie Gilkey wrote: Crossover provides a really nice set of functionality for running applications with Wine. You can even use it to run Microsoft Office.... ronnie Jerald Sheets wrote: It isn't always about the games, but Diablo III works with Crossover, IIRC... --- Jerald M. Sheets jr. On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 5:46 PM, Jarred White wrote: I'll build another Linux desktop when I can play Diablo III on it. ? From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of mat branyon Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 4:10 PM To: general at brlug.net Subject: Re: [brlug-general] The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. ? i dont like adobe products On Nov 23, 2009 2:55 PM, "Tim Fournet" wrote: That brings an important point - How exactly do you measure the market for a Free product?? ? That's like saying "there is no market for air because the sales of air are terrible" ? Sure, nobody's making money from it, but that doesn't mean that air has no fit in the workplace. YOU try going to work and not using any air. On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 3:49 PM, mat branyon wrote: > > regardless of wh... _______________________________________________ General mailing list General at brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pursuant to IRS Circular 230 and IRS regulations we inform you that any federal tax advice contained in this communication is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties imposed under the Internal Revenue Code. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Postlethwaite & Netterville Implements New Email Encryption Software to Further Protect Confidential Data Confidentiality is a hallmark of the accounting profession and it is of the utmost importance to our client relationships. 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Message-ID: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E1129BB@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> Yeah, Linux is big in the data center. I'm curious what the current numbers are for its use there? ________________________________________ From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of Jerald Sheets Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 7:44 PM To: general at brlug.net Subject: Re: [brlug-general] The market has rejected Linux desktops. Getover it. Since I've moved to Atlanta, I've been directly in touch with over 5000 Linux systems whereas I've only seen about 20 commercial UNIX boxes. ? I think at least in the huge install space, Linux has already taken over. --j On Nov 23, 2009, at 7:10 PM, Ryan Burychka wrote: Linux is gradually gaining ground in the server market because of growing stability and a decrease in maintenance costs (more people are becoming familiar with Linux server administration).? I don't ever see it "taking over" any of the market, but at some point it may come close to an equal share. My point is that Linux is currently better suited for owning server market-share.? The desktop market will be controlled by MS and Apple for years to come - most non-technical people don't even realize there's an alternative. Ryan On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 11:13 AM, -ray wrote: The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/hiner/?p=3372&tag=nl.e102 -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ray DeJean ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? http://www.r-a-y.org Systems Engineer ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Southeastern Louisiana University IBM Certified Specialist ? ? ? ? ? ? ?AIX Administration, AIX Support =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= _______________________________________________ General mailing list General at brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net _______________________________________________ General mailing list General at brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net From keiths at neill.net Tue Nov 24 09:18:34 2009 From: keiths at neill.net (Keith Stokes) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 09:18:34 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] The market has rejected Linux desktops. Getover it. In-Reply-To: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E1129BB@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> References: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E1129BB@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> Message-ID: <1FB6969C-7AD7-46F6-B7BB-E5AFADEC1CB2@neill.net> We have around 120 servers in our data center. It's probably half-and- half for me. If it can be run on Linux, it is. The front end of the application runs on Windows and is served via TS. Almost everything else, databases, management, etc, is run on Linux. Corp office might be a little heavier toward Linux and a few Unix. Windows is used only for stuff that ties directly to Windows desktops (not fighting that battle) like file/print/authentication services. On Nov 24, 2009, at 9:11 AM, Dustin Puryear wrote: > Yeah, Linux is big in the data center. I'm curious what the current > numbers are for its use there? > > ________________________________________ > From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] > On Behalf Of Jerald Sheets > Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 7:44 PM > To: general at brlug.net > Subject: Re: [brlug-general] The market has rejected Linux desktops. > Getover it. > > Since I've moved to Atlanta, I've been directly in touch with over > 5000 Linux systems whereas I've only seen about 20 commercial UNIX > boxes. > > I think at least in the huge install space, Linux has already taken > over. > > --j > > > On Nov 23, 2009, at 7:10 PM, Ryan Burychka wrote: > > > Linux is gradually gaining ground in the server market because of > growing stability and a decrease in maintenance costs (more people > are becoming familiar with Linux server administration). I don't > ever see it "taking over" any of the market, but at some point it > may come close to an equal share. > > My point is that Linux is currently better suited for owning server > market-share. The desktop market will be controlled by MS and Apple > for years to come - most non-technical people don't even realize > there's an alternative. > > Ryan > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 11:13 AM, -ray wrote: > > The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. > http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/hiner/?p=3372&tag=nl.e102 > > -- > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > Ray DeJean http://www.r-a-y.org > Systems Engineer Southeastern Louisiana University > IBM Certified Specialist AIX Administration, AIX Support > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net From dpuryear at puryear-it.com Tue Nov 24 09:52:38 2009 From: dpuryear at puryear-it.com (Dustin Puryear) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 09:52:38 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] Solaris failover Message-ID: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E1129C6@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> For Linux failover, if not using a commercial product like SteelEye, we use Linux Virtual Server (LVS). Is there a similar solution for Solaris? -- Dustin Puryear President and Sr. Consultant Puryear Information Technology, LLC 225-706-8414 x112 http://www.puryear-it.com Author, "Best Practices for Managing Linux and UNIX Servers" http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ From questy at gmail.com Tue Nov 24 10:26:29 2009 From: questy at gmail.com (Jerald Sheets) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:26:29 -0500 Subject: [brlug-general] The market has rejected Linux desktops. Getover it. In-Reply-To: <1FB6969C-7AD7-46F6-B7BB-E5AFADEC1CB2@neill.net> References: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E1129BB@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> <1FB6969C-7AD7-46F6-B7BB-E5AFADEC1CB2@neill.net> Message-ID: <79d511080911240826y5cf65b50y7256906154d90384@mail.gmail.com> In the main DC's I've been in here in ATL (AT&T, Verizon Business, etc.), it is more the oddity to see "big iron" than Linux. Oftentimes you'll pass a cage and see a bix Regatta class or Z system from IBM and to a lesser extent some sort of AS400. The most common Big Iron is Sun hardware and pretty much everything else seems to be Linux and Windows Server. That's just in my experience, though. --- Jerald M. Sheets jr. On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 10:18 AM, Keith Stokes wrote: > We have around 120 servers in our data center. It's probably half-and- > half for me. If it can be run on Linux, it is. The front end of the > application runs on Windows and is served via TS. Almost everything > else, databases, management, etc, is run on Linux. > > Corp office might be a little heavier toward Linux and a few Unix. > Windows is used only for stuff that ties directly to Windows desktops > (not fighting that battle) like file/print/authentication services. > > On Nov 24, 2009, at 9:11 AM, Dustin Puryear wrote: > > > Yeah, Linux is big in the data center. I'm curious what the current > > numbers are for its use there? > > > > ________________________________________ > > From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] > > On Behalf Of Jerald Sheets > > Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 7:44 PM > > To: general at brlug.net > > Subject: Re: [brlug-general] The market has rejected Linux desktops. > > Getover it. > > > > Since I've moved to Atlanta, I've been directly in touch with over > > 5000 Linux systems whereas I've only seen about 20 commercial UNIX > > boxes. > > > > I think at least in the huge install space, Linux has already taken > > over. > > > > --j > > > > > > On Nov 23, 2009, at 7:10 PM, Ryan Burychka wrote: > > > > > > Linux is gradually gaining ground in the server market because of > > growing stability and a decrease in maintenance costs (more people > > are becoming familiar with Linux server administration). I don't > > ever see it "taking over" any of the market, but at some point it > > may come close to an equal share. > > > > My point is that Linux is currently better suited for owning server > > market-share. The desktop market will be controlled by MS and Apple > > for years to come - most non-technical people don't even realize > > there's an alternative. > > > > Ryan > > > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 11:13 AM, -ray wrote: > > > > The market has rejected Linux desktops. 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URL: From ray at ops.selu.edu Tue Nov 24 13:12:01 2009 From: ray at ops.selu.edu (-ray) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:12:01 -0600 (CST) Subject: [brlug-general] The market has rejected Linux desktops. Getover it. In-Reply-To: <1FB6969C-7AD7-46F6-B7BB-E5AFADEC1CB2@neill.net> References: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E1129BB@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> <1FB6969C-7AD7-46F6-B7BB-E5AFADEC1CB2@neill.net> Message-ID: Same here. We run a mix of Linux, Windows, AIX, Netware, and one VMS machine. Linux is preferred. The only servers we add are Linux and Windows. In the past 3 years, Linux has improved enough so that we can now use it instead of AIX for enterprise apps (except for BIG db servers). Soon we'll also be migrating the Netware servers to Linux. ray On Tue, 24 Nov 2009, Keith Stokes wrote: > We have around 120 servers in our data center. It's probably half-and- > half for me. If it can be run on Linux, it is. The front end of the > application runs on Windows and is served via TS. Almost everything > else, databases, management, etc, is run on Linux. > > Corp office might be a little heavier toward Linux and a few Unix. > Windows is used only for stuff that ties directly to Windows desktops > (not fighting that battle) like file/print/authentication services. > > On Nov 24, 2009, at 9:11 AM, Dustin Puryear wrote: > >> Yeah, Linux is big in the data center. I'm curious what the current >> numbers are for its use there? >> >> ________________________________________ >> From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] >> On Behalf Of Jerald Sheets >> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 7:44 PM >> To: general at brlug.net >> Subject: Re: [brlug-general] The market has rejected Linux desktops. >> Getover it. >> >> Since I've moved to Atlanta, I've been directly in touch with over >> 5000 Linux systems whereas I've only seen about 20 commercial UNIX >> boxes. >> >> I think at least in the huge install space, Linux has already taken >> over. >> >> --j >> >> >> On Nov 23, 2009, at 7:10 PM, Ryan Burychka wrote: >> >> >> Linux is gradually gaining ground in the server market because of >> growing stability and a decrease in maintenance costs (more people >> are becoming familiar with Linux server administration). I don't >> ever see it "taking over" any of the market, but at some point it >> may come close to an equal share. >> >> My point is that Linux is currently better suited for owning server >> market-share. The desktop market will be controlled by MS and Apple >> for years to come - most non-technical people don't even realize >> there's an alternative. >> >> Ryan >> >> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 11:13 AM, -ray wrote: >> >> The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. >> http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/hiner/?p=3372&tag=nl.e102 >> >> -- >> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> Ray DeJean http://www.r-a-y.org >> Systems Engineer Southeastern Louisiana University >> IBM Certified Specialist AIX Administration, AIX Support >> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> General mailing list >> General at brlug.net >> http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net >> >> _______________________________________________ >> General mailing list >> General at brlug.net >> http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> General mailing list >> General at brlug.net >> http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ray DeJean http://www.r-a-y.org Systems Engineer Southeastern Louisiana University IBM Certified Specialist AIX Administration, AIX Support =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From questy at gmail.com Tue Nov 24 14:00:45 2009 From: questy at gmail.com (Jerald Sheets) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:00:45 -0500 Subject: [brlug-general] The market has rejected Linux desktops. Getover it. In-Reply-To: References: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E1129BB@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> <1FB6969C-7AD7-46F6-B7BB-E5AFADEC1CB2@neill.net> Message-ID: <79d511080911241200o4e3450c3ncab0a556bc3400f3@mail.gmail.com> We got a billion queries at The Weather Channel the morning Rita rolled ashore. All served on MySQL over SuSE. I think that properly load-balanced, even the DB thing isn't an issue any more unless a company requires Oracle over a commercial OS. --- Jerald M. Sheets jr. On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 2:12 PM, -ray wrote: > > Same here. We run a mix of Linux, Windows, AIX, Netware, and one VMS > machine. Linux is preferred. The only servers we add are Linux and > Windows. In the past 3 years, Linux has improved enough so that we can > now use it instead of AIX for enterprise apps (except for BIG db servers). > Soon we'll also be migrating the Netware servers to Linux. > > ray > > > On Tue, 24 Nov 2009, Keith Stokes wrote: > > > We have around 120 servers in our data center. It's probably half-and- > > half for me. If it can be run on Linux, it is. The front end of the > > application runs on Windows and is served via TS. Almost everything > > else, databases, management, etc, is run on Linux. > > > > Corp office might be a little heavier toward Linux and a few Unix. > > Windows is used only for stuff that ties directly to Windows desktops > > (not fighting that battle) like file/print/authentication services. > > > > On Nov 24, 2009, at 9:11 AM, Dustin Puryear wrote: > > > >> Yeah, Linux is big in the data center. I'm curious what the current > >> numbers are for its use there? > >> > >> ________________________________________ > >> From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] > >> On Behalf Of Jerald Sheets > >> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 7:44 PM > >> To: general at brlug.net > >> Subject: Re: [brlug-general] The market has rejected Linux desktops. > >> Getover it. > >> > >> Since I've moved to Atlanta, I've been directly in touch with over > >> 5000 Linux systems whereas I've only seen about 20 commercial UNIX > >> boxes. > >> > >> I think at least in the huge install space, Linux has already taken > >> over. > >> > >> --j > >> > >> > >> On Nov 23, 2009, at 7:10 PM, Ryan Burychka wrote: > >> > >> > >> Linux is gradually gaining ground in the server market because of > >> growing stability and a decrease in maintenance costs (more people > >> are becoming familiar with Linux server administration). I don't > >> ever see it "taking over" any of the market, but at some point it > >> may come close to an equal share. > >> > >> My point is that Linux is currently better suited for owning server > >> market-share. The desktop market will be controlled by MS and Apple > >> for years to come - most non-technical people don't even realize > >> there's an alternative. > >> > >> Ryan > >> > >> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 11:13 AM, -ray wrote: > >> > >> The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. > >> http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/hiner/?p=3372&tag=nl.e102 > >> > >> -- > >> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > >> Ray DeJean http://www.r-a-y.org > >> Systems Engineer Southeastern Louisiana University > >> IBM Certified Specialist AIX Administration, AIX Support > >> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> General mailing list > >> General at brlug.net > >> http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> General mailing list > >> General at brlug.net > >> http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> General mailing list > >> General at brlug.net > >> http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > General mailing list > > General at brlug.net > > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > > > -- > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > Ray DeJean http://www.r-a-y.org > Systems Engineer Southeastern Louisiana University > IBM Certified Specialist AIX Administration, AIX Support > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dpuryear at puryear-it.com Tue Nov 24 14:51:42 2009 From: dpuryear at puryear-it.com (Dustin Puryear) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:51:42 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] The market has rejected Linux desktops. Getoverit. Message-ID: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E1129DE@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> Well, now that's fascinating. You guys must have been doing some serious distributing mysql processing. ________________________________________ From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of Jerald Sheets Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 2:01 PM To: general at brlug.net Subject: Re: [brlug-general] The market has rejected Linux desktops. Getoverit. We got a billion queries at The Weather Channel the morning Rita rolled ashore.? All served on MySQL over SuSE. I think that properly load-balanced, even the DB thing isn't an issue any more unless a company requires Oracle over a commercial OS. --- Jerald M. Sheets jr. On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 2:12 PM, -ray wrote: Same here. ?We run a mix of Linux, Windows, AIX, Netware, and one VMS machine. ?Linux is preferred. ?The only servers we add are Linux and Windows. ?In the past 3 years, Linux has improved enough so that we can now use it instead of AIX for enterprise apps (except for BIG db servers). Soon we'll also be migrating the Netware servers to Linux. ray On Tue, 24 Nov 2009, Keith Stokes wrote: > We have around 120 servers in our data center. ?It's probably half-and- > half for me. ?If it can be run on Linux, it is. ?The front end of the > application runs on Windows and is served via TS. ?Almost everything > else, databases, management, etc, is run on Linux. > > Corp office might be a little heavier toward Linux and a few Unix. > Windows is used only for stuff that ties directly to Windows desktops > (not fighting that battle) like file/print/authentication services. > > On Nov 24, 2009, at 9:11 AM, Dustin Puryear wrote: > >> Yeah, Linux is big in the data center. I'm curious what the current >> numbers are for its use there? >> >> ________________________________________ >> From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] >> On Behalf Of Jerald Sheets >> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 7:44 PM >> To: general at brlug.net >> Subject: Re: [brlug-general] The market has rejected Linux desktops. >> Getover it. >> >> Since I've moved to Atlanta, I've been directly in touch with over >> 5000 Linux systems whereas I've only seen about 20 commercial UNIX >> boxes. >> >> I think at least in the huge install space, Linux has already taken >> over. >> >> --j >> >> >> On Nov 23, 2009, at 7:10 PM, Ryan Burychka wrote: >> >> >> Linux is gradually gaining ground in the server market because of >> growing stability and a decrease in maintenance costs (more people >> are becoming familiar with Linux server administration). ?I don't >> ever see it "taking over" any of the market, but at some point it >> may come close to an equal share. >> >> My point is that Linux is currently better suited for owning server >> market-share. ?The desktop market will be controlled by MS and Apple >> for years to come - most non-technical people don't even realize >> there's an alternative. >> >> Ryan >> >> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 11:13 AM, -ray wrote: >> >> The market has rejected Linux desktops. Get over it. >> http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/hiner/?p=3372&tag=nl.e102 >> >> -- >> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> Ray DeJean ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? http://www.r-a-y.org >> Systems Engineer ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Southeastern Louisiana University >> IBM Certified Specialist ? ? ? ? ? ? ?AIX Administration, AIX Support >> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> General mailing list >> General at brlug.net >> http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net >> >> _______________________________________________ >> General mailing list >> General at brlug.net >> http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> General mailing list >> General at brlug.net >> http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ray DeJean ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? http://www.r-a-y.org Systems Engineer ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Southeastern Louisiana University IBM Certified Specialist ? ? ? ? ? ? ?AIX Administration, AIX Support =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= _______________________________________________ General mailing list General at brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net From dpuryear at puryear-it.com Wed Nov 25 11:54:44 2009 From: dpuryear at puryear-it.com (Dustin Puryear) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:54:44 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] Happy Thanksgiving Day.. tomorrow Message-ID: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E112A18@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> Oh, just wanted to say Happy Thanksgiving Day for tomorrow. Just in case I'm not near my computer (hopefully I won't be). -- Dustin Puryear President and Sr. Consultant Puryear Information Technology, LLC 225-706-8414 x112 http://www.puryear-it.com Author, "Best Practices for Managing Linux and UNIX Servers" http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/