From dpuryear at puryear-it.com Thu Feb 4 09:08:37 2010 From: dpuryear at puryear-it.com (Dustin Puryear) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 09:08:37 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] Next Civ game to support Facebook! Message-ID: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E176060@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> Holy sh**! http://mashable.com/2010/02/02/civilization-facebook-2/ --- Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E176062@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> Karthik and I just talked about this yesterday! http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10446503-38.html?tag=digg2 Is your web data really safe? Uh, no. --- Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dpuryear at puryear-it.com Thu Feb 4 09:18:22 2010 From: dpuryear at puryear-it.com (Dustin Puryear) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 09:18:22 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] Time for SQL and relational databases to die? Message-ID: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E176063@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> Interesting article on the coming death of SQL: http://blogs.computerworld.com/15510/the_end_of_sql_and_relational_datab ases_part_1_of_3 I just a Twitter post by, geez, I think it was Randal Schwartz that if he could have done Facebook, it would never touch SQL. --- Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tfournet at tfour.net Thu Feb 4 09:19:15 2010 From: tfournet at tfour.net (Tim Fournet) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 09:19:15 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] Police to get more access to your data? In-Reply-To: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E176062@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> References: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E176062@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> Message-ID: So, what exactly is the "safe from police" way to store data? On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Dustin Puryear wrote: > Karthik and I just talked about this yesterday! > > > > http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10446503-38.html?tag=digg2 > > > > Is your web data really safe? > > > > Uh, no. > > > > --- > Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ > Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On > Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies > > Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" > http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From keiths at neill.net Thu Feb 4 09:22:27 2010 From: keiths at neill.net (Keith Stokes) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 09:22:27 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] Police to get more access to your data? In-Reply-To: References: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E176062@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> Message-ID: <49B66B48-7E90-47A0-BE60-6F2D71D55686@neill.net> It probably doesn't exist. On Feb 4, 2010, at 9:19 AM, Tim Fournet wrote: > So, what exactly is the "safe from police" way to store data? > > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Dustin Puryear > wrote: > Karthik and I just talked about this yesterday! > > > http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10446503-38.html?tag=digg2 > > > Is your web data really safe? > > > Uh, no. > > > --- > Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ > Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On > Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies > > Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" > http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net -- Keith Stokes -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dpuryear at puryear-it.com Thu Feb 4 10:12:00 2010 From: dpuryear at puryear-it.com (Dustin Puryear) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 10:12:00 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] Police to get more access to your data? References: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E176062@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> <49B66B48-7E90-47A0-BE60-6F2D71D55686@neill.net> Message-ID: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E17606A@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> Encrypted data is the only real way I suppose. --- Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of Keith Stokes Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 9:22 AM To: general at brlug.net Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Police to get more access to your data? It probably doesn't exist. On Feb 4, 2010, at 9:19 AM, Tim Fournet wrote: So, what exactly is the "safe from police" way to store data? On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Dustin Puryear wrote: Karthik and I just talked about this yesterday! http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10446503-38.html?tag=digg2 Is your web data really safe? Uh, no. --- Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ _______________________________________________ General mailing list General at brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net _______________________________________________ General mailing list General at brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net -- Keith Stokes -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dpuryear at puryear-it.com Thu Feb 4 10:12:19 2010 From: dpuryear at puryear-it.com (Dustin Puryear) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 10:12:19 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] Police to get more access to your data? References: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E176062@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> <49B66B48-7E90-47A0-BE60-6F2D71D55686@neill.net> Message-ID: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E17606B@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> And what I think people miss is that if police have access, every hacker has access. --- Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of Keith Stokes Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 9:22 AM To: general at brlug.net Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Police to get more access to your data? It probably doesn't exist. On Feb 4, 2010, at 9:19 AM, Tim Fournet wrote: So, what exactly is the "safe from police" way to store data? On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Dustin Puryear wrote: Karthik and I just talked about this yesterday! http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10446503-38.html?tag=digg2 Is your web data really safe? Uh, no. --- Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ _______________________________________________ General mailing list General at brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net _______________________________________________ General mailing list General at brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net -- Keith Stokes -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karthik at poobal.net Thu Feb 4 10:15:27 2010 From: karthik at poobal.net (Karthik Poobalasubramanian) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 10:15:27 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] Police to get more access to your data? In-Reply-To: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E17606A@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> References: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E176062@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> <49B66B48-7E90-47A0-BE60-6F2D71D55686@neill.net> <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E17606A@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> Message-ID: <19FEF8BF-6090-488C-A5DD-45D64B2F6434@poobal.net> Except when you get forced to reveal you private key to decrypt your data. http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10172866-38.html -- Karthik Poobalasubramanian Louisiana Board of Regents karthik at poobal.net karthik at la.gov (225) 341-5855 skype: poobal On Feb 4, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Dustin Puryear wrote: > Encrypted data is the only real way I suppose. > > --- > Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ > Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On > Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies > > Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" > http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ > > From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of Keith Stokes > Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 9:22 AM > To: general at brlug.net > Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Police to get more access to your data? > > It probably doesn't exist. > > On Feb 4, 2010, at 9:19 AM, Tim Fournet wrote: > > > So, what exactly is the "safe from police" way to store data? > > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Dustin Puryear wrote: > Karthik and I just talked about this yesterday! > > http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10446503-38.html?tag=digg2 > > Is your web data really safe? > > Uh, no. > > --- > Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ > Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On > Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies > > Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" > http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > > -- > > Keith Stokes > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net From karthik at poobal.net Thu Feb 4 10:17:25 2010 From: karthik at poobal.net (Karthik Poobalasubramanian) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 10:17:25 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] Time for SQL and relational databases to die? In-Reply-To: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E176063@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> References: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E176063@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> Message-ID: <0D4826AD-6275-4E41-8878-DC9DC56D1ED4@poobal.net> I think it was @merlyn(Randal Schwartz) who tweeted(hate that word) about this. Jan 22 FLOSS Weekly had Michael Dirolf from MongoDB (Schema-Free & document-oriented DB) talking about non-RDBMS on the rise. FLOSS Weekly Episode 105: http://twit.tv/floss105 -- Karthik Poobalasubramanian Louisiana Board of Regents karthik at poobal.net karthik at la.gov (225) 341-5855 skype: poobal On Feb 4, 2010, at 9:18 AM, Dustin Puryear wrote: > Interesting article on the coming death of SQL: > > http://blogs.computerworld.com/15510/the_end_of_sql_and_relational_databases_part_1_of_3 > > I just a Twitter post by, geez, I think it was Randal Schwartz that if he could have done Facebook, it would never touch SQL. > > --- > Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ > Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On > Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies > > Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" > http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net From keiths at neill.net Thu Feb 4 10:22:11 2010 From: keiths at neill.net (Keith Stokes) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 10:22:11 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] Police to get more access to your data? In-Reply-To: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E17606B@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> References: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E176062@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> <49B66B48-7E90-47A0-BE60-6F2D71D55686@neill.net> <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E17606B@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> Message-ID: <5A039F7B-E2DC-4DC2-B6AD-BC336020A7DA@neill.net> Funny...I'm on a call with a development group who doesn't quite seem to grasp that there are hackers out there and opening up your full business application servers to all users on the Internet could be a bit risky. On Feb 4, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Dustin Puryear wrote: > And what I think people miss is that if police have access, every > hacker has access. > > --- > Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ > Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On > Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies > > Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" > http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ > > From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] > On Behalf Of Keith Stokes > Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 9:22 AM > To: general at brlug.net > Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Police to get more access to your data? > > It probably doesn't exist. > > On Feb 4, 2010, at 9:19 AM, Tim Fournet wrote: > > > So, what exactly is the "safe from police" way to store data? > > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Dustin Puryear > wrote: > Karthik and I just talked about this yesterday! > > http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10446503-38.html?tag=digg2 > > Is your web data really safe? > > Uh, no. > > --- > Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ > Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On > Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies > > Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" > http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > > -- > > Keith Stokes > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net -- Keith Stokes -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From keiths at neill.net Thu Feb 4 10:23:35 2010 From: keiths at neill.net (Keith Stokes) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 10:23:35 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] Police to get more access to your data? In-Reply-To: <19FEF8BF-6090-488C-A5DD-45D64B2F6434@poobal.net> References: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E176062@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> <49B66B48-7E90-47A0-BE60-6F2D71D55686@neill.net> <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E17606A@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> <19FEF8BF-6090-488C-A5DD-45D64B2F6434@poobal.net> Message-ID: <50798B23-1266-4D0C-9229-BED4001FD548@neill.net> That's what I was thinking....if the police has access to your data they legally can make you decrypt it. Sort of like locking the door to a closet at your house. If they have a search warrant I think they can make you open it. On Feb 4, 2010, at 10:15 AM, Karthik Poobalasubramanian wrote: > Except when you get forced to reveal you private key to decrypt your > data. > > http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10172866-38.html > > > -- > Karthik Poobalasubramanian > Louisiana Board of Regents > karthik at poobal.net > karthik at la.gov > (225) 341-5855 > skype: poobal > > > On Feb 4, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Dustin Puryear wrote: > >> Encrypted data is the only real way I suppose. >> >> --- >> Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ >> Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On >> Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies >> >> Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" >> http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ >> >> From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] >> On Behalf Of Keith Stokes >> Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 9:22 AM >> To: general at brlug.net >> Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Police to get more access to your data? >> >> It probably doesn't exist. >> >> On Feb 4, 2010, at 9:19 AM, Tim Fournet wrote: >> >> >> So, what exactly is the "safe from police" way to store data? >> >> >> On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Dustin Puryear > > wrote: >> Karthik and I just talked about this yesterday! >> >> http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10446503-38.html?tag=digg2 >> >> Is your web data really safe? >> >> Uh, no. >> >> --- >> Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ >> Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On >> Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies >> >> Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" >> http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> General mailing list >> General at brlug.net >> http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> General mailing list >> General at brlug.net >> http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net >> >> >> -- >> >> Keith Stokes >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> General mailing list >> General at brlug.net >> http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net -- Keith Stokes From dpuryear at puryear-it.com Thu Feb 4 10:27:01 2010 From: dpuryear at puryear-it.com (Dustin Puryear) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 10:27:01 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] Police to get more access to your data? References: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E176062@sbs.Puryear-IT.local><49B66B48-7E90-47A0-BE60-6F2D71D55686@neill.net><43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E17606A@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> <19FEF8BF-6090-488C-A5DD-45D64B2F6434@poobal.net> Message-ID: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E176071@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> To sum up that article: A guy was forced by a judge to decrypt his hard-drive for a child porn case. The ACLU and others feel that being forced to decrypt your hard-drive to provide evidence violates the Fifth Amendment (see http://law.jrank.org/pages/6880/Fifth-Amendment-Self-Incrimination-Claus e.html). Interesting case. To me, that is a violation of the Fifth Amendment. If I have a notebook that includes supposed proof that I committed a crime, the police have the right to use that against me. Fine. However, they can't force me to tell them where it is or even that I know of its existence, AFAIK. How is decrypting your hard-drive any different? --- Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ -----Original Message----- From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of Karthik Poobalasubramanian Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 10:15 AM To: general at brlug.net Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Police to get more access to your data? Except when you get forced to reveal you private key to decrypt your data. http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10172866-38.html -- Karthik Poobalasubramanian Louisiana Board of Regents karthik at poobal.net karthik at la.gov (225) 341-5855 skype: poobal On Feb 4, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Dustin Puryear wrote: > Encrypted data is the only real way I suppose. > > --- > Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ > Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On > Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies > > Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" > http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ > > From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of Keith Stokes > Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 9:22 AM > To: general at brlug.net > Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Police to get more access to your data? > > It probably doesn't exist. > > On Feb 4, 2010, at 9:19 AM, Tim Fournet wrote: > > > So, what exactly is the "safe from police" way to store data? > > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Dustin Puryear wrote: > Karthik and I just talked about this yesterday! > > http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10446503-38.html?tag=digg2 > > Is your web data really safe? > > Uh, no. > > --- > Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ > Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On > Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies > > Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" > http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > > -- > > Keith Stokes > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net _______________________________________________ General mailing list General at brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net From dpuryear at puryear-it.com Thu Feb 4 10:27:50 2010 From: dpuryear at puryear-it.com (Dustin Puryear) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 10:27:50 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] Police to get more access to your data? References: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E176062@sbs.Puryear-IT.local><49B66B48-7E90-47A0-BE60-6F2D71D55686@neill.net><43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E17606A@sbs.Puryear-IT.local><19FEF8BF-6090-488C-A5DD-45D64B2F6434@poobal.net> <50798B23-1266-4D0C-9229-BED4001FD548@neill.net> Message-ID: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E176072@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> Interesting point Keith. --- Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ -----Original Message----- From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of Keith Stokes Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 10:24 AM To: general at brlug.net Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Police to get more access to your data? That's what I was thinking....if the police has access to your data they legally can make you decrypt it. Sort of like locking the door to a closet at your house. If they have a search warrant I think they can make you open it. On Feb 4, 2010, at 10:15 AM, Karthik Poobalasubramanian wrote: > Except when you get forced to reveal you private key to decrypt your > data. > > http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10172866-38.html > > > -- > Karthik Poobalasubramanian > Louisiana Board of Regents > karthik at poobal.net > karthik at la.gov > (225) 341-5855 > skype: poobal > > > On Feb 4, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Dustin Puryear wrote: > >> Encrypted data is the only real way I suppose. >> >> --- >> Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ >> Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On >> Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies >> >> Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" >> http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ >> >> From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] >> On Behalf Of Keith Stokes >> Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 9:22 AM >> To: general at brlug.net >> Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Police to get more access to your data? >> >> It probably doesn't exist. >> >> On Feb 4, 2010, at 9:19 AM, Tim Fournet wrote: >> >> >> So, what exactly is the "safe from police" way to store data? >> >> >> On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Dustin Puryear > > wrote: >> Karthik and I just talked about this yesterday! >> >> http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10446503-38.html?tag=digg2 >> >> Is your web data really safe? >> >> Uh, no. >> >> --- >> Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ >> Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On >> Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies >> >> Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" >> http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> General mailing list >> General at brlug.net >> http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> General mailing list >> General at brlug.net >> http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net >> >> >> -- >> >> Keith Stokes >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> General mailing list >> General at brlug.net >> http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net -- Keith Stokes _______________________________________________ General mailing list General at brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net From karthik at poobal.net Thu Feb 4 11:02:09 2010 From: karthik at poobal.net (Karthik Poobalasubramanian) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 11:02:09 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] Police to get more access to your data? In-Reply-To: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E176071@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> References: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E176062@sbs.Puryear-IT.local><49B66B48-7E90-47A0-BE60-6F2D71D55686@neill.net><43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E17606A@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> <19FEF8BF-6090-488C-A5DD-45D64B2F6434@poobal.net> <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E176071@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> Message-ID: Good summarization Dustin. Also, if cops have a warrant to the house and no keys to the locked closet, won't just break the lock than force someone to give them the keys? Shouldn't the same thing apply to decrypting the hard drive? When its a child porn case, the grey area just gets wider. -- Karthik Poobalasubramanian Louisiana Board of Regents karthik at poobal.net karthik at la.gov (225) 341-5855 skype: poobal On Feb 4, 2010, at 10:27 AM, Dustin Puryear wrote: > To sum up that article: A guy was forced by a judge to decrypt his > hard-drive for a child porn case. The ACLU and others feel that being > forced to decrypt your hard-drive to provide evidence violates the Fifth > Amendment (see > http://law.jrank.org/pages/6880/Fifth-Amendment-Self-Incrimination-Claus > e.html). > > Interesting case. > > To me, that is a violation of the Fifth Amendment. > > If I have a notebook that includes supposed proof that I committed a > crime, the police have the right to use that against me. Fine. However, > they can't force me to tell them where it is or even that I know of its > existence, AFAIK. > > How is decrypting your hard-drive any different? > > --- > Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ > Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On > Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies > > Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" > http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ > > -----Original Message----- > From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On > Behalf Of Karthik Poobalasubramanian > Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 10:15 AM > To: general at brlug.net > Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Police to get more access to your data? > > Except when you get forced to reveal you private key to decrypt your > data. > > http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10172866-38.html > > > -- > Karthik Poobalasubramanian > Louisiana Board of Regents > karthik at poobal.net > karthik at la.gov > (225) 341-5855 > skype: poobal > > > On Feb 4, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Dustin Puryear wrote: > >> Encrypted data is the only real way I suppose. >> >> --- >> Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ >> Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On >> Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies >> >> Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" >> http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ >> >> From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On > Behalf Of Keith Stokes >> Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 9:22 AM >> To: general at brlug.net >> Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Police to get more access to your data? >> >> It probably doesn't exist. >> >> On Feb 4, 2010, at 9:19 AM, Tim Fournet wrote: >> >> >> So, what exactly is the "safe from police" way to store data? >> >> >> On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Dustin Puryear > wrote: >> Karthik and I just talked about this yesterday! >> >> http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10446503-38.html?tag=digg2 >> >> Is your web data really safe? >> >> Uh, no. >> >> --- >> Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ >> Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On >> Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies >> >> Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" >> http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> General mailing list >> General at brlug.net >> http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> General mailing list >> General at brlug.net >> http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net >> >> >> -- >> >> Keith Stokes >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> General mailing list >> General at brlug.net >> http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net From keiths at neill.net Thu Feb 4 11:07:35 2010 From: keiths at neill.net (Keith Stokes) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 11:07:35 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] Police to get more access to your data? In-Reply-To: References: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E176062@sbs.Puryear-IT.local><49B66B48-7E90-47A0-BE60-6F2D71D55686@neill.net><43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E17606A@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> <19FEF8BF-6090-488C-A5DD-45D64B2F6434@poobal.net> <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E176071@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> Message-ID: <8135402A-BE2E-45BB-9BAF-F85906B42251@neill.net> Force wasn't quite the right word. They can request the key and if they don't get it your closet door ends up in the front yard. I would see the same outcome for decrypting. They might have tobdobthe legwork but bet the FBI guys have better decryption systems than the rest of us. -- Keith Stokes On Feb 4, 2010, at 11:02 AM, Karthik Poobalasubramanian wrote: > Good summarization Dustin. > Also, if cops have a warrant to the house and no keys to the locked > closet, won't just break the lock than force someone to give them > the keys? Shouldn't the same thing apply to decrypting the hard drive? > > When its a child porn case, the grey area just gets wider. > > -- > Karthik Poobalasubramanian > Louisiana Board of Regents > karthik at poobal.net > karthik at la.gov > (225) 341-5855 > skype: poobal > > > On Feb 4, 2010, at 10:27 AM, Dustin Puryear wrote: > >> To sum up that article: A guy was forced by a judge to decrypt his >> hard-drive for a child porn case. The ACLU and others feel that being >> forced to decrypt your hard-drive to provide evidence violates the >> Fifth >> Amendment (see >> http://law.jrank.org/pages/6880/Fifth-Amendment-Self-Incrimination-Claus >> e.html). >> >> Interesting case. >> >> To me, that is a violation of the Fifth Amendment. >> >> If I have a notebook that includes supposed proof that I committed a >> crime, the police have the right to use that against me. Fine. >> However, >> they can't force me to tell them where it is or even that I know of >> its >> existence, AFAIK. >> >> How is decrypting your hard-drive any different? >> >> --- >> Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ >> Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On >> Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies >> >> Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" >> http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On >> Behalf Of Karthik Poobalasubramanian >> Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 10:15 AM >> To: general at brlug.net >> Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Police to get more access to your data? >> >> Except when you get forced to reveal you private key to decrypt your >> data. >> >> http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10172866-38.html >> >> >> -- >> Karthik Poobalasubramanian >> Louisiana Board of Regents >> karthik at poobal.net >> karthik at la.gov >> (225) 341-5855 >> skype: poobal >> >> >> On Feb 4, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Dustin Puryear wrote: >> >>> Encrypted data is the only real way I suppose. >>> >>> --- >>> Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ >>> Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On >>> Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies >>> >>> Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" >>> http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ >>> >>> From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] >>> On >> Behalf Of Keith Stokes >>> Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 9:22 AM >>> To: general at brlug.net >>> Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Police to get more access to your data? >>> >>> It probably doesn't exist. >>> >>> On Feb 4, 2010, at 9:19 AM, Tim Fournet wrote: >>> >>> >>> So, what exactly is the "safe from police" way to store data? >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Dustin Puryear >> wrote: >>> Karthik and I just talked about this yesterday! >>> >>> http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10446503-38.html?tag=digg2 >>> >>> Is your web data really safe? >>> >>> Uh, no. >>> >>> --- >>> Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ >>> Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On >>> Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies >>> >>> Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" >>> http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> General mailing list >>> General at brlug.net >>> http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> General mailing list >>> General at brlug.net >>> http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Keith Stokes >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> General mailing list >>> General at brlug.net >>> http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> General mailing list >> General at brlug.net >> http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net >> >> _______________________________________________ >> General mailing list >> General at brlug.net >> http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net From torrancew at gmail.com Thu Feb 4 11:12:37 2010 From: torrancew at gmail.com (Warren "Tray" Torrance) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 11:12:37 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] Police to get more access to your data? In-Reply-To: References: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E176062@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> <49B66B48-7E90-47A0-BE60-6F2D71D55686@neill.net> <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E17606A@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> <19FEF8BF-6090-488C-A5DD-45D64B2F6434@poobal.net> <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E176071@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> Message-ID: <19c66d9e1002040912w42fff926r5d90b85973cc38b7@mail.gmail.com> I'd have to agree - if the laptop is evidence, they can take a shot at brute-force decryption, but forcing you to decrypt it seems a bit shaky, to say the least. I'm a bit unsure of the examples provided by Keith though - I was once told to carry any sensitive information in a separate lock box when driving, as that would not be covered by a warrant to search your car, but vehicular laws in that area differ from home search warrants, and the source of that advice was not an attorney. Thanks, Warren "Tray" Torrance On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 11:02, Karthik Poobalasubramanian wrote: > Good summarization Dustin. > Also, if cops have a warrant to the house and no keys to the locked closet, > won't just break the lock than force someone to give them the keys? > Shouldn't the same thing apply to decrypting the hard drive? > > When its a child porn case, the grey area just gets wider. > > -- > Karthik Poobalasubramanian > Louisiana Board of Regents > karthik at poobal.net > karthik at la.gov > (225) 341-5855 > skype: poobal > > > On Feb 4, 2010, at 10:27 AM, Dustin Puryear wrote: > > > To sum up that article: A guy was forced by a judge to decrypt his > > hard-drive for a child porn case. The ACLU and others feel that being > > forced to decrypt your hard-drive to provide evidence violates the Fifth > > Amendment (see > > http://law.jrank.org/pages/6880/Fifth-Amendment-Self-Incrimination-Claus > > e.html). > > > > Interesting case. > > > > To me, that is a violation of the Fifth Amendment. > > > > If I have a notebook that includes supposed proof that I committed a > > crime, the police have the right to use that against me. Fine. However, > > they can't force me to tell them where it is or even that I know of its > > existence, AFAIK. > > > > How is decrypting your hard-drive any different? > > > > --- > > Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ > > Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On > > Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies > > > > Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" > > http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On > > Behalf Of Karthik Poobalasubramanian > > Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 10:15 AM > > To: general at brlug.net > > Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Police to get more access to your data? > > > > Except when you get forced to reveal you private key to decrypt your > > data. > > > > http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10172866-38.html > > > > > > -- > > Karthik Poobalasubramanian > > Louisiana Board of Regents > > karthik at poobal.net > > karthik at la.gov > > (225) 341-5855 > > skype: poobal > > > > > > On Feb 4, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Dustin Puryear wrote: > > > >> Encrypted data is the only real way I suppose. > >> > >> --- > >> Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ > >> Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On > >> Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies > >> > >> Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" > >> http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ > >> > >> From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On > > Behalf Of Keith Stokes > >> Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 9:22 AM > >> To: general at brlug.net > >> Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Police to get more access to your data? > >> > >> It probably doesn't exist. > >> > >> On Feb 4, 2010, at 9:19 AM, Tim Fournet wrote: > >> > >> > >> So, what exactly is the "safe from police" way to store data? > >> > >> > >> On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Dustin Puryear > > wrote: > >> Karthik and I just talked about this yesterday! > >> > >> http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10446503-38.html?tag=digg2 > >> > >> Is your web data really safe? > >> > >> Uh, no. > >> > >> --- > >> Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ > >> Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On > >> Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies > >> > >> Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" > >> http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> General mailing list > >> General at brlug.net > >> http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> General mailing list > >> General at brlug.net > >> http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > >> > >> > >> -- > >> > >> Keith Stokes > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> General mailing list > >> General at brlug.net > >> http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > General mailing list > > General at brlug.net > > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > > General mailing list > > General at brlug.net > > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sroddy at gmail.com Thu Feb 4 11:22:32 2010 From: sroddy at gmail.com (Shannon Roddy) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 11:22:32 +1800 Subject: [brlug-general] Police to get more access to your data? In-Reply-To: <5A039F7B-E2DC-4DC2-B6AD-BC336020A7DA@neill.net> References: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E176062@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> <49B66B48-7E90-47A0-BE60-6F2D71D55686@neill.net> <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E17606B@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> <5A039F7B-E2DC-4DC2-B6AD-BC336020A7DA@neill.net> Message-ID: <8d48b6ba1002040922p7c6603cdg754b9e3f0504de06@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Keith Stokes wrote: > Funny...I'm on a call with a development group who doesn't quite seem to > grasp that there are hackers out there and opening up your full business > application servers to all users on the Internet could be a bit risky. > > Yeah... kind of reminds me of a company that peddles backup software that can't resist a port scan... They have no intention of fixing this problem. > On Feb 4, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Dustin Puryear wrote: > > And what I think people miss is that if police have access, every hacker > has access. > > --- > Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ > Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On > Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies > > Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" > http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ > > *From:* general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net > ] *On Behalf Of *Keith Stokes > *Sent:* Thursday, February 04, 2010 9:22 AM > *To:* general at brlug.net > *Subject:* Re: [brlug-general] Police to get more access to your data? > > It probably doesn't exist. > > On Feb 4, 2010, at 9:19 AM, Tim Fournet wrote: > > > So, what exactly is the "safe from police" way to store data? > > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Dustin Puryear > wrote: > Karthik and I just talked about this yesterday! > > http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10446503-38.html?tag=digg2 > > Is your web data really safe? > > Uh, no. > > --- > Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ > Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On > Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies > > Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" > http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > > -- > > Keith Stokes > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > > > -- > > Keith Stokes > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bendily at gmail.com Thu Feb 4 11:57:41 2010 From: bendily at gmail.com (Brad Bendily) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 11:57:41 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] Police to get more access to your data? In-Reply-To: <8135402A-BE2E-45BB-9BAF-F85906B42251@neill.net> References: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E176062@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> <49B66B48-7E90-47A0-BE60-6F2D71D55686@neill.net> <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E17606A@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> <19FEF8BF-6090-488C-A5DD-45D64B2F6434@poobal.net> <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E176071@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> <8135402A-BE2E-45BB-9BAF-F85906B42251@neill.net> Message-ID: When I read that article I was thinking, what if I "forgot" my decryption pw! ha! On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Keith Stokes wrote: > Force wasn't quite the right word. They can request the key and if > they don't get it your closet door ends up in the front yard. > > > I would see the same outcome for decrypting. They might have tobdobthe > legwork but bet the FBI guys have better decryption systems than the > rest of us. > > -- > > Keith Stokes > > On Feb 4, 2010, at 11:02 AM, Karthik Poobalasubramanian ?> wrote: > >> Good summarization Dustin. >> Also, if cops have a warrant to the house and no keys to the locked >> closet, won't just break the lock than force someone to give them >> the keys? Shouldn't the same thing apply to decrypting the hard drive? >> >> When its a child porn case, the grey area just gets wider. >> >> -- >> Karthik Poobalasubramanian >> Louisiana Board of Regents >> karthik at poobal.net >> karthik at la.gov >> (225) 341-5855 >> skype: poobal >> >> >> On Feb 4, 2010, at 10:27 AM, Dustin Puryear wrote: >> >>> To sum up that article: A guy was forced by a judge to decrypt his >>> hard-drive for a child porn case. The ACLU and others feel that being >>> forced to decrypt your hard-drive to provide evidence violates the >>> Fifth >>> Amendment (see >>> http://law.jrank.org/pages/6880/Fifth-Amendment-Self-Incrimination-Claus >>> e.html). >>> >>> Interesting case. >>> >>> To me, that is a violation of the Fifth Amendment. >>> >>> If I have a notebook that includes supposed proof that I committed a >>> crime, the police have the right to use that against me. Fine. >>> However, >>> they can't force me to tell them where it is or even that I know of >>> its >>> existence, AFAIK. >>> >>> How is decrypting your hard-drive any different? >>> >>> --- >>> Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ >>> Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On >>> Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies >>> >>> Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" >>> http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On >>> Behalf Of Karthik Poobalasubramanian >>> Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 10:15 AM >>> To: general at brlug.net >>> Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Police to get more access to your data? >>> >>> Except when you get forced to reveal you private key to decrypt your >>> data. >>> >>> http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10172866-38.html >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Karthik Poobalasubramanian >>> Louisiana Board of Regents >>> karthik at poobal.net >>> karthik at la.gov >>> (225) 341-5855 >>> skype: poobal >>> >>> >>> On Feb 4, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Dustin Puryear wrote: >>> >>>> Encrypted data is the only real way I suppose. >>>> >>>> --- >>>> Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ >>>> Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On >>>> Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies >>>> >>>> Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" >>>> http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ >>>> >>>> From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] >>>> On >>> Behalf Of Keith Stokes >>>> Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 9:22 AM >>>> To: general at brlug.net >>>> Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Police to get more access to your data? >>>> >>>> It probably doesn't exist. >>>> >>>> On Feb 4, 2010, at 9:19 AM, Tim Fournet wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> So, what exactly is the "safe from police" way to store data? >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Dustin Puryear >>> wrote: >>>> Karthik and I just talked about this yesterday! >>>> >>>> http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10446503-38.html?tag=digg2 >>>> >>>> Is your web data really safe? >>>> >>>> Uh, no. >>>> >>>> --- >>>> Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ >>>> Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On >>>> Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies >>>> >>>> Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" >>>> http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> General mailing list >>>> General at brlug.net >>>> http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> General mailing list >>>> General at brlug.net >>>> http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Keith Stokes >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> General mailing list >>>> General at brlug.net >>>> http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> General mailing list >>> General at brlug.net >>> http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> General mailing list >>> General at brlug.net >>> http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> General mailing list >> General at brlug.net >> http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > -- Have Mercy & Say Yeah From dpuryear at puryear-it.com Thu Feb 4 12:42:41 2010 From: dpuryear at puryear-it.com (Dustin Puryear) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 12:42:41 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] Police to get more access to your data? References: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E176062@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> <49B66B48-7E90-47A0-BE60-6F2D71D55686@neill.net><43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E17606B@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> <5A039F7B-E2DC-4DC2-B6AD-BC336020A7DA@neill.net> <8d48b6ba1002040922p7c6603cdg754b9e3f0504de06@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E176079@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> Shannon- Who does that? --- Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of Shannon Roddy Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 11:23 AM To: general at brlug.net Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Police to get more access to your data? On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Keith Stokes wrote: Funny...I'm on a call with a development group who doesn't quite seem to grasp that there are hackers out there and opening up your full business application servers to all users on the Internet could be a bit risky. Yeah... kind of reminds me of a company that peddles backup software that can't resist a port scan... They have no intention of fixing this problem. On Feb 4, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Dustin Puryear wrote: And what I think people miss is that if police have access, every hacker has access. --- Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of Keith Stokes Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 9:22 AM To: general at brlug.net Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Police to get more access to your data? It probably doesn't exist. On Feb 4, 2010, at 9:19 AM, Tim Fournet wrote: So, what exactly is the "safe from police" way to store data? On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Dustin Puryear wrote: Karthik and I just talked about this yesterday! http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10446503-38.html?tag=digg2 Is your web data really safe? Uh, no. --- Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ _______________________________________________ General mailing list General at brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net _______________________________________________ General mailing list General at brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net -- Keith Stokes _______________________________________________ General mailing list General at brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net -- Keith Stokes _______________________________________________ General mailing list General at brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Lappin, CCNA, MCITP: Enterprise Administrator | Lee Michaels Fine Jewelry Director of Information Technology 11314 Cloverland Ave | Baton Rouge, LA 70809 Ph: 225.291.9094 ext 245 | Fax: 225-291-5778 | Mobile: 225-362-2770 www.lmfj.com [http://www.lmfj.com/images/lmfjsig.gif] ________________________________ This communication is privileged and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of this communication . From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of Dustin Puryear Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 12:43 PM To: general at brlug.net Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Police to get more access to your data? Shannon- Who does that? --- Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of Shannon Roddy Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 11:23 AM To: general at brlug.net Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Police to get more access to your data? On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Keith Stokes > wrote: Funny...I'm on a call with a development group who doesn't quite seem to grasp that there are hackers out there and opening up your full business application servers to all users on the Internet could be a bit risky. Yeah... kind of reminds me of a company that peddles backup software that can't resist a port scan... They have no intention of fixing this problem. On Feb 4, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Dustin Puryear wrote: And what I think people miss is that if police have access, every hacker has access. --- Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of Keith Stokes Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 9:22 AM To: general at brlug.net Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Police to get more access to your data? It probably doesn't exist. On Feb 4, 2010, at 9:19 AM, Tim Fournet wrote: So, what exactly is the "safe from police" way to store data? On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Dustin Puryear > wrote: Karthik and I just talked about this yesterday! http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10446503-38.html?tag=digg2 Is your web data really safe? Uh, no. --- Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ _______________________________________________ General mailing list General at brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net _______________________________________________ General mailing list General at brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net -- Keith Stokes _______________________________________________ General mailing list General at brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net -- Keith Stokes _______________________________________________ General mailing list General at brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I'll have to watch/listen to them. --- Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ -----Original Message----- From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of Karthik Poobalasubramanian Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 10:17 AM To: general at brlug.net Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Time for SQL and relational databases to die? I think it was @merlyn(Randal Schwartz) who tweeted(hate that word) about this. Jan 22 FLOSS Weekly had Michael Dirolf from MongoDB (Schema-Free & document-oriented DB) talking about non-RDBMS on the rise. FLOSS Weekly Episode 105: http://twit.tv/floss105 -- Karthik Poobalasubramanian Louisiana Board of Regents karthik at poobal.net karthik at la.gov (225) 341-5855 skype: poobal On Feb 4, 2010, at 9:18 AM, Dustin Puryear wrote: > Interesting article on the coming death of SQL: > > http://blogs.computerworld.com/15510/the_end_of_sql_and_relational_datab ases_part_1_of_3 > > I just a Twitter post by, geez, I think it was Randal Schwartz that if he could have done Facebook, it would never touch SQL. > > --- > Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ > Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On > Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies > > Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" > http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net _______________________________________________ General mailing list General at brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net From dpuryear at puryear-it.com Thu Feb 4 12:51:33 2010 From: dpuryear at puryear-it.com (Dustin Puryear) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 12:51:33 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] Time for a new website? Message-ID: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E17607B@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> Maybe it's time for a new website, although I don't think there is necessarily anything wrong with the current one. Anyone interested in taking a look at possibly migrating us to a CMS like Drupal or something? Pros and cons to something new? --- Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dpuryear at puryear-it.com Thu Feb 4 12:52:28 2010 From: dpuryear at puryear-it.com (Dustin Puryear) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 12:52:28 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] Time for a new website? References: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E17607B@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> Message-ID: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E17607C@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> BTW, the current one is just custom PHP. --- Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of Dustin Puryear Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 12:52 PM To: general at brlug.net Subject: [brlug-general] Time for a new website? Maybe it's time for a new website, although I don't think there is necessarily anything wrong with the current one. Anyone interested in taking a look at possibly migrating us to a CMS like Drupal or something? Pros and cons to something new? --- Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sroddy at gmail.com Thu Feb 4 13:15:46 2010 From: sroddy at gmail.com (Shannon Roddy) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 13:15:46 +1800 Subject: [brlug-general] Police to get more access to your data? In-Reply-To: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E176079@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> References: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E176062@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> <49B66B48-7E90-47A0-BE60-6F2D71D55686@neill.net> <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E17606B@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> <5A039F7B-E2DC-4DC2-B6AD-BC336020A7DA@neill.net> <8d48b6ba1002040922p7c6603cdg754b9e3f0504de06@mail.gmail.com> <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E176079@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> Message-ID: <8d48b6ba1002041115l372a0fafp67b384e15e5e8128@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Dustin Puryear wrote: > Shannon- Who does that? > You think I am going to publicly call them out? I think not.... I don't feel like having a law suit on my hands. > > > --- > Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ > Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On > Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies > > Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" > http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ > > > > *From:* general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] *On > Behalf Of *Shannon Roddy > *Sent:* Thursday, February 04, 2010 11:23 AM > > *To:* general at brlug.net > *Subject:* Re: [brlug-general] Police to get more access to your data? > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Keith Stokes wrote: > > Funny...I'm on a call with a development group who doesn't quite seem to > grasp that there are hackers out there and opening up your full business > application servers to all users on the Internet could be a bit risky. > > > > > Yeah... kind of reminds me of a company that peddles backup software that > can't resist a port scan... They have no intention of fixing this problem. > > > > On Feb 4, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Dustin Puryear wrote: > > > > And what I think people miss is that if police have access, every hacker > has access. > > > > --- > Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ > Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On > Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies > > Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" > http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ > > > > *From:* general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net > ] *On Behalf Of *Keith Stokes > *Sent:* Thursday, February 04, 2010 9:22 AM > *To:* general at brlug.net > *Subject:* Re: [brlug-general] Police to get more access to your data? > > > > It probably doesn't exist. > > > > On Feb 4, 2010, at 9:19 AM, Tim Fournet wrote: > > > > So, what exactly is the "safe from police" way to store data? > > > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Dustin Puryear > wrote: > > Karthik and I just talked about this yesterday! > > > > http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10446503-38.html?tag=digg2 > > > > Is your web data really safe? > > > > Uh, no. > > > > --- > Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ > Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On > Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies > > Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" > http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > > > > -- > > > > Keith Stokes > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > > > > -- > > > > Keith Stokes > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From torrancew at gmail.com Thu Feb 4 13:19:03 2010 From: torrancew at gmail.com (Warren "Tray" Torrance) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 13:19:03 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] Time for a new website? In-Reply-To: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E17607C@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> References: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E17607B@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E17607C@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> Message-ID: <19c66d9e1002041119r7fe00d85x37ebcb7765b55e1b@mail.gmail.com> I'd agree, a CMS wouldn't be a bad idea. Pros: User/Role Management Separation of Content/Style Cons: Less customizations at our disposal, and custom cgi scripts typically don't play well with CMS posts/pages/etc. Would be a few off the top of my head. Also, I made some noise a while back about starting meetings - I'm still up for it, just caught a busy few weeks lately. I should have some time this weekend, and would be willing to see what we can do, and what resources/members are available and willing to participate, if we do start the meetings. Thanks, Warren "Tray" Torrance On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 12:52, Dustin Puryear wrote: > BTW, the current one is just custom PHP. > > > > --- > Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ > Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On > Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies > > Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" > http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ > > > > *From:* general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] *On > Behalf Of *Dustin Puryear > *Sent:* Thursday, February 04, 2010 12:52 PM > *To:* general at brlug.net > *Subject:* [brlug-general] Time for a new website? > > > > Maybe it?s time for a new website, although I don?t think there is > necessarily anything wrong with the current one. Anyone interested in taking > a look at possibly migrating us to a CMS like Drupal or something? Pros and > cons to something new? > > > > --- > Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ > Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On > Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies > > Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" > http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dpuryear at puryear-it.com Thu Feb 4 13:44:00 2010 From: dpuryear at puryear-it.com (Dustin Puryear) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 13:44:00 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] Time for a new website? References: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E17607B@sbs.Puryear-IT.local><43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E17607C@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> <19c66d9e1002041119r7fe00d85x37ebcb7765b55e1b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E176085@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> Uh, it's Superbowl weekend this weekend.. ;-) --- Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of Warren "Tray" Torrance Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 1:19 PM To: general at brlug.net Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Time for a new website? I'd agree, a CMS wouldn't be a bad idea. Pros: User/Role Management Separation of Content/Style Cons: Less customizations at our disposal, and custom cgi scripts typically don't play well with CMS posts/pages/etc. Would be a few off the top of my head. Also, I made some noise a while back about starting meetings - I'm still up for it, just caught a busy few weeks lately. I should have some time this weekend, and would be willing to see what we can do, and what resources/members are available and willing to participate, if we do start the meetings. Thanks, Warren "Tray" Torrance On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 12:52, Dustin Puryear wrote: BTW, the current one is just custom PHP. --- Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of Dustin Puryear Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 12:52 PM To: general at brlug.net Subject: [brlug-general] Time for a new website? Maybe it's time for a new website, although I don't think there is necessarily anything wrong with the current one. Anyone interested in taking a look at possibly migrating us to a CMS like Drupal or something? Pros and cons to something new? --- Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ _______________________________________________ General mailing list General at brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From torrancew at gmail.com Thu Feb 4 13:46:52 2010 From: torrancew at gmail.com (Warren "Tray" Torrance) Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2010 13:46:52 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] Time for a new website? In-Reply-To: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E176085@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> References: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E17607B@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E17607C@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> <19c66d9e1002041119r7fe00d85x37ebcb7765b55e1b@mail.gmail.com> <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E176085@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> Message-ID: <1265312812.6370.5.camel@Nokia-N900-51-1> Ah yes. Not a football fan, (yes I know the saints are in) so i forget that stuff. Another time then. ----- Original message ----- > Uh, it's Superbowl weekend this weekend.. ;-) > >? > > --- > Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ > Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On > Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies > > Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" > http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ > >? > > From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On > Behalf Of Warren "Tray" Torrance > Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 1:19 PM > To: general at brlug.net > Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Time for a new website? > >? > > I'd agree, a CMS wouldn't be a bad idea. > > Pros: > User/Role Management > Separation of Content/Style > > Cons: > Less customizations at our disposal, and custom cgi scripts typically > don't play well with CMS posts/pages/etc. > > Would be a few off the top of my head. > > Also, I made some noise a while back about starting meetings - I'm still > up for it, just caught a busy few weeks lately. I should have some time > this weekend, and would be willing to see what we can do, and what > resources/members are available and willing to participate, if we do > start the meetings. > > Thanks, > > Warren "Tray" Torrance > > > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 12:52, Dustin Puryear > wrote: > > BTW, the current one is just custom PHP. > >? > > --- > Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ > Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On > Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies > > Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" > http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ > >? > > From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On > Behalf Of Dustin Puryear > Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 12:52 PM > To: general at brlug.net > Subject: [brlug-general] Time for a new website? > >? > > Maybe it's time for a new website, although I don't think there is > necessarily anything wrong with the current one. Anyone interested in > taking a look at possibly migrating us to a CMS like Drupal or > something? Pros and cons to something new? > >? > > --- > Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ > Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On > Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies > > Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" > http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ > >? > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > >? > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bendily at gmail.com Thu Feb 4 13:51:36 2010 From: bendily at gmail.com (Brad Bendily) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 13:51:36 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] Time for a new website? In-Reply-To: <1265312812.6370.5.camel@Nokia-N900-51-1> References: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E17607B@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E17607C@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> <19c66d9e1002041119r7fe00d85x37ebcb7765b55e1b@mail.gmail.com> <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E176085@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> <1265312812.6370.5.camel@Nokia-N900-51-1> Message-ID: On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Warren "Tray" Torrance wrote: > Ah yes. Not a football fan, (yes I know the saints are in) so i forget that > stuff. Another time then. > or an evening during the week? bb From torrancew at gmail.com Thu Feb 4 13:55:04 2010 From: torrancew at gmail.com (Warren "Tray" Torrance) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 13:55:04 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] Time for a new website? In-Reply-To: References: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E17607B@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E17607C@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> <19c66d9e1002041119r7fe00d85x37ebcb7765b55e1b@mail.gmail.com> <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E176085@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> <1265312812.6370.5.camel@Nokia-N900-51-1> Message-ID: <19c66d9e1002041155t1a2478a8nb898955caac021ae@mail.gmail.com> That could feasibly work for me, with enough notice. Anyone else up for a weekday evening meet one of these days? Warren "Tray" Torrance On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 13:51, Brad Bendily wrote: > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Warren "Tray" Torrance > wrote: > > Ah yes. Not a football fan, (yes I know the saints are in) so i forget > that > > stuff. Another time then. > > > > or an evening during the week? > bb > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karthik at poobal.net Thu Feb 4 14:04:16 2010 From: karthik at poobal.net (Karthik Poobalasubramanian) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 14:04:16 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] Time for a new website? In-Reply-To: <19c66d9e1002041155t1a2478a8nb898955caac021ae@mail.gmail.com> References: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E17607B@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E17607C@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> <19c66d9e1002041119r7fe00d85x37ebcb7765b55e1b@mail.gmail.com> <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E176085@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> <1265312812.6370.5.camel@Nokia-N900-51-1> <19c66d9e1002041155t1a2478a8nb898955caac021ae@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <92D8D827-4C2C-435E-8773-6492EA53110E@poobal.net> Sure. Count me in. -- Karthik Poobalasubramanian Louisiana Board of Regents karthik at poobal.net karthik at la.gov (225) 341-5855 skype: poobal On Feb 4, 2010, at 1:55 PM, Warren Tray Torrance wrote: > That could feasibly work for me, with enough notice. Anyone else up for a weekday evening meet one of these days? > > Warren "Tray" Torrance > > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 13:51, Brad Bendily wrote: > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Warren "Tray" Torrance > wrote: > > Ah yes. Not a football fan, (yes I know the saints are in) so i forget that > > stuff. Another time then. > > > > or an evening during the week? > bb > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net From torrancew at gmail.com Thu Feb 4 14:10:13 2010 From: torrancew at gmail.com (Warren "Tray" Torrance) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 14:10:13 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] Time for a new website? In-Reply-To: <92D8D827-4C2C-435E-8773-6492EA53110E@poobal.net> References: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E17607B@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E17607C@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> <19c66d9e1002041119r7fe00d85x37ebcb7765b55e1b@mail.gmail.com> <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E176085@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> <1265312812.6370.5.camel@Nokia-N900-51-1> <19c66d9e1002041155t1a2478a8nb898955caac021ae@mail.gmail.com> <92D8D827-4C2C-435E-8773-6492EA53110E@poobal.net> Message-ID: <19c66d9e1002041210j69a54572s269f8f804edfb8e7@mail.gmail.com> What day/time/place would be optimal for all? Warren "Tray" Torrance On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 14:04, Karthik Poobalasubramanian wrote: > Sure. Count me in. > -- > Karthik Poobalasubramanian > Louisiana Board of Regents > karthik at poobal.net > karthik at la.gov > (225) 341-5855 > skype: poobal > > > On Feb 4, 2010, at 1:55 PM, Warren Tray Torrance wrote: > > > That could feasibly work for me, with enough notice. Anyone else up for a > weekday evening meet one of these days? > > > > Warren "Tray" Torrance > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 13:51, Brad Bendily wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Warren "Tray" Torrance > > wrote: > > > Ah yes. Not a football fan, (yes I know the saints are in) so i forget > that > > > stuff. Another time then. > > > > > > > or an evening during the week? > > bb > > > > _______________________________________________ > > General mailing list > > General at brlug.net > > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > > General mailing list > > General at brlug.net > > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karthik at poobal.net Thu Feb 4 14:20:10 2010 From: karthik at poobal.net (Karthik Poobalasubramanian) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 14:20:10 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] Time for a new website? In-Reply-To: <19c66d9e1002041119r7fe00d85x37ebcb7765b55e1b@mail.gmail.com> References: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E17607B@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E17607C@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> <19c66d9e1002041119r7fe00d85x37ebcb7765b55e1b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: If we have to migrate the brlug website, I think we should use a CMS. Besides, who has time to create a custom website? Personally, I like Plone but it might be an overkill for this purpose. I usually use wordpress for smaller websites. IMHO wordpress has security issues but its very easy to manage and update. -- Karthik Poobalasubramanian Louisiana Board of Regents karthik at poobal.net karthik at la.gov (225) 341-5855 skype: poobal On Feb 4, 2010, at 1:19 PM, Warren Tray Torrance wrote: > I'd agree, a CMS wouldn't be a bad idea. > > Pros: > User/Role Management > Separation of Content/Style > > Cons: > Less customizations at our disposal, and custom cgi scripts typically don't play well with CMS posts/pages/etc. > > Would be a few off the top of my head. > > Also, I made some noise a while back about starting meetings - I'm still up for it, just caught a busy few weeks lately. I should have some time this weekend, and would be willing to see what we can do, and what resources/members are available and willing to participate, if we do start the meetings. > > Thanks, > > Warren "Tray" Torrance > > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 12:52, Dustin Puryear wrote: > BTW, the current one is just custom PHP. > > > --- > Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ > Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On > Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies > > Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" > http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ > > > From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of Dustin Puryear > Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 12:52 PM > To: general at brlug.net > Subject: [brlug-general] Time for a new website? > > > Maybe it?s time for a new website, although I don?t think there is necessarily anything wrong with the current one. Anyone interested in taking a look at possibly migrating us to a CMS like Drupal or something? Pros and cons to something new? > > > --- > Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ > Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On > Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies > > Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" > http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net From Ryan.McCain at LA.GOV Thu Feb 4 15:01:07 2010 From: Ryan.McCain at LA.GOV (Ryan McCain) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 15:01:07 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] Time for a new website? In-Reply-To: <19c66d9e1002041210j69a54572s269f8f804edfb8e7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43F590F51FDB044F81A4BFDB905AB95701972E3BE2@MAILMBX10.MAIL.LA.GOV> I've been using TikiWiki for my websites lately and it's solid. Does anyone else use it? Check it out.. http://www.tikiwiki.org ________________________________ From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of Warren "Tray" Torrance Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 2:10 PM To: general at brlug.net Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Time for a new website? What day/time/place would be optimal for all? Warren "Tray" Torrance On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 14:04, Karthik Poobalasubramanian > wrote: Sure. Count me in. -- Karthik Poobalasubramanian Louisiana Board of Regents karthik at poobal.net karthik at la.gov (225) 341-5855 skype: poobal On Feb 4, 2010, at 1:55 PM, Warren Tray Torrance wrote: > That could feasibly work for me, with enough notice. 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Count me in. > -- > Karthik Poobalasubramanian > Louisiana Board of Regents > karthik at poobal.net > karthik at la.gov > (225) 341-5855 > skype: poobal > > > On Feb 4, 2010, at 1:55 PM, Warren Tray Torrance wrote: > > > That could feasibly work for me, with enough notice. Anyone else > up for a weekday evening meet one of these days? > > > > Warren "Tray" Torrance > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 13:51, Brad Bendily > wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Warren "Tray" Torrance > > wrote: > > > Ah yes. Not a football fan, (yes I know the saints are in) so i > forget that > > > stuff. Another time then. > > > > > > > or an evening during the week? > > bb > > > > _______________________________________________ > > General mailing list > > General at brlug.net > > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > > General mailing list > > General at brlug.net > > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From torrancew at gmail.com Thu Feb 4 18:01:58 2010 From: torrancew at gmail.com (Warren "Tray" Torrance) Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2010 18:01:58 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] Time for a new website? In-Reply-To: References: <43F590F51FDB044F81A4BFDB905AB95701972E3BE2@MAILMBX10.MAIL.LA.GOV> Message-ID: <1265328118.6877.5.camel@Nokia-N900-51-1> It should be noted that the two contact email addresses on the current site bounce, by the way. ----- Original message ----- > I'll install and setup whichever one is decided. > > > > On Feb 4, 2010, at 3:01 PM, Ryan McCain wrote: > > > I've been using TikiWiki for my websites lately and it's solid.? ? > > Does anyone else use it? > > > > Check it out.. http://www.tikiwiki.org > > > > > > > > From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net]? > > On Behalf Of Warren "Tray" Torrance > > Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 2:10 PM > > To: general at brlug.net > > Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Time for a new website? > > > > What day/time/place would be optimal for all? > > > > Warren "Tray" Torrance > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 14:04, Karthik Poobalasubramanian > > wrote: > > Sure. Count me in. > > -- > > Karthik Poobalasubramanian > > Louisiana Board of Regents > > karthik at poobal.net > > karthik at la.gov > > (225) 341-5855 > > skype: poobal > > > > > > On Feb 4, 2010, at 1:55 PM, Warren Tray Torrance wrote: > > > > > That could feasibly work for me, with enough notice. Anyone else? > > up for a weekday evening meet one of these days? > > > > > > Warren "Tray" Torrance > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 13:51, Brad Bendily ? ? ? ? > > wrote: > > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Warren "Tray" Torrance > > > wrote: > > > > Ah yes. Not a football fan, (yes I know the saints are in) so i? > > forget that > > > > stuff. 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URL: From bendily at gmail.com Thu Feb 4 18:12:20 2010 From: bendily at gmail.com (Brad Bendily) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 18:12:20 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] Time for a new website? In-Reply-To: <1265328118.6877.5.camel@Nokia-N900-51-1> References: <43F590F51FDB044F81A4BFDB905AB95701972E3BE2@MAILMBX10.MAIL.LA.GOV> <1265328118.6877.5.camel@Nokia-N900-51-1> Message-ID: Yeah. That's not a surprise. There isn't much on that site that has changed in a number of years. On Feb 4, 2010, at 6:01 PM, "Warren \"Tray\" Torrance" wrote: > It should be noted that the two contact email addresses on the > current site bounce, by the way. > > ----- Original message ----- > > I'll install and setup whichever one is decided. > > > > > > > > On Feb 4, 2010, at 3:01 PM, Ryan McCain wrote: > > > > > I've been using TikiWiki for my websites lately and it's solid. > > > Does anyone else use it? > > > > > > Check it out.. http://www.tikiwiki.org > > > > > > > > > > > > From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] > > > On Behalf Of Warren "Tray" Torrance > > > Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 2:10 PM > > > To: general at brlug.net > > > Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Time for a new website? > > > > > > What day/time/place would be optimal for all? > > > > > > Warren "Tray" Torrance > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 14:04, Karthik Poobalasubramanian > > > wrote: > > > Sure. Count me in. > > > -- > > > Karthik Poobalasubramanian > > > Louisiana Board of Regents > > > karthik at poobal.net > > > karthik at la.gov > > > (225) 341-5855 > > > skype: poobal > > > > > > > > > On Feb 4, 2010, at 1:55 PM, Warren Tray Torrance wrote: > > > > > > > That could feasibly work for me, with enough notice. Anyone else > > > up for a weekday evening meet one of these days? > > > > > > > > Warren "Tray" Torrance > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 13:51, Brad Bendily > > > wrote: > > > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Warren "Tray" Torrance > > > > wrote: > > > > > Ah yes. Not a football fan, (yes I know the saints are in) > so i > > > forget that > > > > > stuff. Another time then. > > > > > > > > > > > > > or an evening during the week? > > > > bb > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > General mailing list > > > > General at brlug.net > > > > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > General mailing list > > > > General at brlug.net > > > > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > General mailing list > > > General at brlug.net > > > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > General mailing list > > > General at brlug.net > > > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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There isn't much on that site that has changed > in a number of years. > > > > On Feb 4, 2010, at 6:01 PM, "Warren \"Tray\" Torrance" < > torrancew at gmail.com> wrote: > > It should be noted that the two contact email addresses on the current site > bounce, by the way. > > ----- Original message ----- > > I'll install and setup whichever one is decided. > > > > > > > > On Feb 4, 2010, at 3:01 PM, Ryan McCain < > Ryan.McCain at LA.GOV> wrote: > > > > > I've been using TikiWiki for my websites lately and it's solid. > > > Does anyone else use it? > > > > > > Check it out.. http://www.tikiwiki.org > > > > > > > > > > > > From: general-bounces at brlug.net [ > mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net ] > > > On Behalf Of Warren "Tray" Torrance > > > Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 2:10 PM > > > To: general at brlug.net > > > Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Time for a new website? > > > > > > What day/time/place would be optimal for all? > > > > > > Warren "Tray" Torrance > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 14:04, Karthik Poobalasubramanian < > karthik at poobal.net > > > > wrote: > > > Sure. Count me in. > > > -- > > > Karthik Poobalasubramanian > > > Louisiana Board of Regents > > > karthik at poobal.net > > > karthik at la.gov > > > (225) 341-5855 > > > skype: poobal > > > > > > > > > On Feb 4, 2010, at 1:55 PM, Warren Tray Torrance wrote: > > > > > > > That could feasibly work for me, with enough notice. Anyone else > > > up for a weekday evening meet one of these days? > > > > > > > > Warren "Tray" Torrance > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 13:51, Brad Bendily < > bendily at gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Warren "Tray" Torrance > > > > < torrancew at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Ah yes. Not a football fan, (yes I know the saints are in) so i > > > forget that > > > > > stuff. Another time then. > > > > > > > > > > > > > or an evening during the week? > > > > bb > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > General mailing list > > > > General at brlug.net > > > > > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > General mailing list > > > > General at brlug.net > > > > > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > General mailing list > > > General at brlug.net > > > > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > General mailing list > > > General at brlug.net > > > > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > _______________________________________________ > > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnalexhebert at gmail.com Fri Feb 5 04:09:54 2010 From: johnalexhebert at gmail.com (John Hebert) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 04:09:54 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] Police to get more access to your data? Message-ID: My thoughts: 1) Use Freenet (http://freenetproject.org/) to store and share your data, as well as to chat and browse anonymously on an encrypted peer-to-peer network. Sure, it still depends on keeping your passphrase private, but how far would the FBI go to force someone to give their passphrase? Start practicing holding your breath underwater. 2) The article is misleadingly titled "Police want backdoor to Web users' private data" (http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10446503-38.html?tag=digg2), but it is about the results of a survey of some law enforcement officers. I was more worried about David Duke's poll surveys than this yellow journalism by Declan McCullagh. Shame, shame, SHAME on you Dustin for even mentioning this article on the mailing list. Oh, wait. It is your mailing list... 3) Law enforcement can and do use actual investigative techniques to find those who create child pornography (i.e.; photography of people less than 18 years of age performing sexual activity). A well-designed and secured network for law enforcement to do their jobs is a good thing. Think about this: law enforcement officials are using email now to exchange information about investigations. (!!!) It seems kinda ass-backwards for some law enforcement officials to take away the 5th Amendment for all US citizens because some citizens keep a collection of certain bits on the computers when there are cases of actual sexual abuse of children (again, under 18 years) within this country, not to mention other countries. Those US citizens who vote with their cable TV remotes and support taking away the 5th may not want to visit certain other countries. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_consent. Look for the big black spot on the map. 4) Stupid border guards don't know the difference between child pornography and hentai. Extra bonus points for comments on the philosophical problems involved with enforcing pornography laws perceived with analog interfaces. John -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karthik at poobal.net Fri Feb 5 08:15:36 2010 From: karthik at poobal.net (Karthik Poobalasubramanian) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 08:15:36 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] Police to get more access to your data? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: IANAL but doesn't the US Constitution, with few exceptions, apply to all Citizens and non-citizens alike? -- Karthik Poobalasubramanian Louisiana Board of Regents karthik at poobal.net karthik at la.gov (225) 341-5855 skype: poobal On Feb 5, 2010, at 4:09 AM, John Hebert wrote: > My thoughts: > > 1) Use Freenet (http://freenetproject.org/) to store and share your data, as well as to chat and browse anonymously on an encrypted peer-to-peer network. Sure, it still depends on keeping your passphrase private, but how far would the FBI go to force someone to give their passphrase? Start practicing holding your breath underwater. > > 2) The article is misleadingly titled "Police want backdoor to Web users' private data" (http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10446503-38.html?tag=digg2), but it is about the results of a survey of some law enforcement officers. I was more worried about David Duke's poll surveys than this yellow journalism by Declan McCullagh. Shame, shame, SHAME on you Dustin for even mentioning this article on the mailing list. Oh, wait. It is your mailing list... > > 3) Law enforcement can and do use actual investigative techniques to find those who create child pornography (i.e.; photography of people less than 18 years of age performing sexual activity). A well-designed and secured network for law enforcement to do their jobs is a good thing. Think about this: law enforcement officials are using email now to exchange information about investigations. (!!!) > > It seems kinda ass-backwards for some law enforcement officials to take away the 5th Amendment for all US citizens because some citizens keep a collection of certain bits on the computers when there are cases of actual sexual abuse of children (again, under 18 years) within this country, not to mention other countries. Those US citizens who vote with their cable TV remotes and support taking away the 5th may not want to visit certain other countries. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_consent. Look for the big black spot on the map. > > 4) Stupid border guards don't know the difference between child pornography and hentai. > > Extra bonus points for comments on the philosophical problems involved with enforcing pornography laws perceived with analog interfaces. > > John > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net From dpuryear at puryear-it.com Fri Feb 5 11:14:49 2010 From: dpuryear at puryear-it.com (Dustin Puryear) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 11:14:49 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] Time for a new website? References: <43F590F51FDB044F81A4BFDB905AB95701972E3BE2@MAILMBX10.MAIL.LA.GOV><1265328118.6877.5.camel@Nokia-N900-51-1> Message-ID: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E1760B7@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> I think I killed them b/c of spam.. --- Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of Brad Bendily Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 6:12 PM To: general at brlug.net Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Time for a new website? Yeah. That's not a surprise. There isn't much on that site that has changed in a number of years. On Feb 4, 2010, at 6:01 PM, "Warren \"Tray\" Torrance" wrote: It should be noted that the two contact email addresses on the current site bounce, by the way. ----- Original message ----- > I'll install and setup whichever one is decided. > > > > On Feb 4, 2010, at 3:01 PM, Ryan McCain wrote: > > > I've been using TikiWiki for my websites lately and it's solid. > > Does anyone else use it? > > > > Check it out.. http://www.tikiwiki.org > > > > > > > > From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] > > On Behalf Of Warren "Tray" Torrance > > Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 2:10 PM > > To: general at brlug.net > > Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Time for a new website? > > > > What day/time/place would be optimal for all? > > > > Warren "Tray" Torrance > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 14:04, Karthik Poobalasubramanian > > wrote: > > Sure. Count me in. > > -- > > Karthik Poobalasubramanian > > Louisiana Board of Regents > > karthik at poobal.net > > karthik at la.gov > > (225) 341-5855 > > skype: poobal > > > > > > On Feb 4, 2010, at 1:55 PM, Warren Tray Torrance wrote: > > > > > That could feasibly work for me, with enough notice. Anyone else > > up for a weekday evening meet one of these days? > > > > > > Warren "Tray" Torrance > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 13:51, Brad Bendily > > wrote: > > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Warren "Tray" Torrance > > > wrote: > > > > Ah yes. Not a football fan, (yes I know the saints are in) so i > > forget that > > > > stuff. Another time then. > > > > > > > > > > or an evening during the week? > > > bb > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > General mailing list > > > General at brlug.net > > > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > General mailing list > > > General at brlug.net > > > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > General mailing list > > General at brlug.net > > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > > General mailing list > > General at brlug.net > > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net _______________________________________________ General mailing list General at brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dpuryear at puryear-it.com Fri Feb 5 11:15:31 2010 From: dpuryear at puryear-it.com (Dustin Puryear) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 11:15:31 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] Time for a new website? References: <43F590F51FDB044F81A4BFDB905AB95701972E3BE2@MAILMBX10.MAIL.LA.GOV><1265328118.6877.5.camel@Nokia-N900-51-1> <19c66d9e1002041616l5fdb0c28t4e4931704d24dd14@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E1760B8@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> Oh, the list is the most functional part of the website. :-) And of course there are still monthly meetings run by Ed for newbies. Those have been going on for years. --- Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of Warren "Tray" Torrance Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 6:17 PM To: general at brlug.net Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Time for a new website? I got that general impression. I only found the mailing list based on my curiosity of whether or not it was still working. Warren "Tray" Torrance On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 18:12, Brad Bendily wrote: Yeah. That's not a surprise. There isn't much on that site that has changed in a number of years. On Feb 4, 2010, at 6:01 PM, "Warren \"Tray\" Torrance" wrote: It should be noted that the two contact email addresses on the current site bounce, by the way. ----- Original message ----- > I'll install and setup whichever one is decided. > > > > On Feb 4, 2010, at 3:01 PM, Ryan McCain wrote: > > > I've been using TikiWiki for my websites lately and it's solid. > > Does anyone else use it? > > > > Check it out.. http://www.tikiwiki.org > > > > > > > > From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] > > On Behalf Of Warren "Tray" Torrance > > Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 2:10 PM > > To: general at brlug.net > > Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Time for a new website? > > > > What day/time/place would be optimal for all? > > > > Warren "Tray" Torrance > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 14:04, Karthik Poobalasubramanian > > wrote: > > Sure. Count me in. > > -- > > Karthik Poobalasubramanian > > Louisiana Board of Regents > > karthik at poobal.net > > karthik at la.gov > > (225) 341-5855 > > skype: poobal > > > > > > On Feb 4, 2010, at 1:55 PM, Warren Tray Torrance wrote: > > > > > That could feasibly work for me, with enough notice. Anyone else > > up for a weekday evening meet one of these days? > > > > > > Warren "Tray" Torrance > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 13:51, Brad Bendily > > wrote: > > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Warren "Tray" Torrance > > > wrote: > > > > Ah yes. Not a football fan, (yes I know the saints are in) so i > > forget that > > > > stuff. Another time then. > > > > > > > > > > or an evening during the week? > > > bb > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > General mailing list > > > General at brlug.net > > > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > General mailing list > > > General at brlug.net > > > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > General mailing list > > General at brlug.net > > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > > General mailing list > > General at brlug.net > > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net _______________________________________________ General mailing list General at brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net _______________________________________________ General mailing list General at brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dpuryear at puryear-it.com Fri Feb 5 11:25:37 2010 From: dpuryear at puryear-it.com (Dustin Puryear) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 11:25:37 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] Police to get more access to your data? References: Message-ID: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E1760B9@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> Not fully, no. It depends on these factors: * Are you a US citizen? Then yes, fully. * Are you a non-US citizen, but on US land? Then yes, partially. * Are you a non-US citizen, but not on US land? Then a bit. I just read a good article on this actually on Salon. There is apparently a lot of precedent on this going back to a few years after the Constitution was ratified, so apparently it's pretty much set in stone, with your obvious tweaking here and there over time by Congress and the Supreme Court (I suppose Executive Orders should be included, although those don't seem to be able to stand the test of time). For example, I don't believe the Fifth Amendment applies at all to anyone that is not a citizen and is outside the US. And that makes sense. It shouldn't. We call that "foreign intelligence." Other Amendments that don't fully apply are the First Amendment, clearly the Second, etc. Reminder: Let's keep this conversation friendly. --- Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ -----Original Message----- From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of Karthik Poobalasubramanian Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 8:16 AM To: general at brlug.net Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Police to get more access to your data? IANAL but doesn't the US Constitution, with few exceptions, apply to all Citizens and non-citizens alike? -- Karthik Poobalasubramanian Louisiana Board of Regents karthik at poobal.net karthik at la.gov (225) 341-5855 skype: poobal On Feb 5, 2010, at 4:09 AM, John Hebert wrote: > My thoughts: > > 1) Use Freenet (http://freenetproject.org/) to store and share your data, as well as to chat and browse anonymously on an encrypted peer-to-peer network. Sure, it still depends on keeping your passphrase private, but how far would the FBI go to force someone to give their passphrase? Start practicing holding your breath underwater. > > 2) The article is misleadingly titled "Police want backdoor to Web users' private data" (http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10446503-38.html?tag=digg2), but it is about the results of a survey of some law enforcement officers. I was more worried about David Duke's poll surveys than this yellow journalism by Declan McCullagh. Shame, shame, SHAME on you Dustin for even mentioning this article on the mailing list. Oh, wait. It is your mailing list... > > 3) Law enforcement can and do use actual investigative techniques to find those who create child pornography (i.e.; photography of people less than 18 years of age performing sexual activity). A well-designed and secured network for law enforcement to do their jobs is a good thing. Think about this: law enforcement officials are using email now to exchange information about investigations. (!!!) > > It seems kinda ass-backwards for some law enforcement officials to take away the 5th Amendment for all US citizens because some citizens keep a collection of certain bits on the computers when there are cases of actual sexual abuse of children (again, under 18 years) within this country, not to mention other countries. Those US citizens who vote with their cable TV remotes and support taking away the 5th may not want to visit certain other countries. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_consent. Look for the big black spot on the map. > > 4) Stupid border guards don't know the difference between child pornography and hentai. > > Extra bonus points for comments on the philosophical problems involved with enforcing pornography laws perceived with analog interfaces. > > John > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net _______________________________________________ General mailing list General at brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net From gremln007 at gmail.com Fri Feb 5 11:32:46 2010 From: gremln007 at gmail.com (Jonathan Roberts) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 11:32:46 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] Police to get more access to your data? In-Reply-To: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E1760B9@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> References: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E1760B9@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> Message-ID: Regarding the reminder, does that mean we shouldn't talk about how many politicians (both parties) ignore the Constitution routinely? Or should we not talk about the fact that many of them haven't even read it? :) Jonathan On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Dustin Puryear wrote: > > > Reminder: Let's keep this conversation friendly. > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From torrancew at gmail.com Fri Feb 5 11:33:26 2010 From: torrancew at gmail.com (Warren "Tray" Torrance) Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2010 11:33:26 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] Time for a new website? In-Reply-To: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E1760B8@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> References: <43F590F51FDB044F81A4BFDB905AB95701972E3BE2@MAILMBX10.MAIL.LA.GOV> <1265328118.6877.5.camel@Nokia-N900-51-1> <19c66d9e1002041616l5fdb0c28t4e4931704d24dd14@mail.gmail.com> <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E1760B8@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> Message-ID: <1265391206.15790.11.camel@Nokia-N900-51-1> So anybody willing to propose a day for an informal meeting? ----- Original message ----- > Oh, the list is the most functional part of the website. :-) > >? > > And of course there are still monthly meetings run by Ed for newbies. > Those have been going on for years. > >? > > --- > Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ > Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On > Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies > > Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" > http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ > >? > > From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On > Behalf Of Warren "Tray" Torrance > Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 6:17 PM > To: general at brlug.net > Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Time for a new website? > >? > > I got that general impression. I only found the mailing list based on my > curiosity of whether or not it was still working. > Warren "Tray" Torrance > > > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 18:12, Brad Bendily wrote: > > Yeah. That's not a surprise. There isn't much on that site that has > changed in a number of years. > > > > > On Feb 4, 2010, at 6:01 PM, "Warren \"Tray\" Torrance" > wrote: > > ??? It should be noted that the two contact email addresses on the > current site bounce, by the way. > ??? > ??? ----- Original message ----- > ??? > I'll install and setup whichever one is decided. > ??? > > ??? > > ??? > > ??? > On Feb 4, 2010, at 3:01 PM, Ryan McCain > wrote: > ??? > > ??? > > I've been using TikiWiki for my websites lately and it's > solid.? ? ? > ??? > > Does anyone else use it? > ??? > > > ??? > > Check it out.. http://www.tikiwiki.org > ??? > > > ??? > > > ??? > > > ??? > > From: general-bounces at brlug.net > [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net]? > ??? > > On Behalf Of Warren "Tray" Torrance > ??? > > Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 2:10 PM > ??? > > To: general at brlug.net > ??? > > Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Time for a new website? > ??? > > > ??? > > What day/time/place would be optimal for all? > ??? > > > ??? > > Warren "Tray" Torrance > ??? > > > ??? > > > ??? > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 14:04, Karthik Poobalasubramanian > ??? > > > wrote: > ??? > > Sure. Count me in. > ??? > > -- > ??? > > Karthik Poobalasubramanian > ??? > > Louisiana Board of Regents > ??? > > karthik at poobal.net > ??? > > karthik at la.gov > ??? > > (225) 341-5855 > ??? > > skype: poobal > ??? > > > ??? > > > ??? > > On Feb 4, 2010, at 1:55 PM, Warren Tray Torrance wrote: > ??? > > > ??? > > > That could feasibly work for me, with enough notice. > Anyone else? > ??? > > up for a weekday evening meet one of these days? > ??? > > > > ??? > > > Warren "Tray" Torrance > ??? > > > > ??? > > > > ??? > > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 13:51, Brad Bendily > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? > ??? > > wrote: > ??? > > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Warren "Tray" Torrance > ??? > > > wrote: > ??? > > > > Ah yes. Not a football fan, (yes I know the saints are > in) so i? > ??? > > forget that > ??? > > > > stuff. Another time then. > ??? > > > > > ??? > > > > ??? > > > or an evening during the week? > ??? > > > bb > ??? > > > > ??? > > > _______________________________________________ > ??? > > > General mailing list > ??? > > > General at brlug.net > ??? > > > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > ??? > > > > ??? > > > _______________________________________________ > ??? > > > General mailing list > ??? > > > General at brlug.net > ??? > > > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > ??? > > > ??? > > > ??? > > _______________________________________________ > ??? > > General mailing list > ??? > > General at brlug.net > ??? > > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > ??? > > > ??? > > _______________________________________________ > ??? > > General mailing list > ??? > > General at brlug.net > ??? > > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > ??? _______________________________________________ > > ??? > ??? General mailing list > ??? General at brlug.net > ??? http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > >? > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From torrancew at gmail.com Fri Feb 5 11:35:14 2010 From: torrancew at gmail.com (Warren "Tray" Torrance) Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2010 11:35:14 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] Police to get more access to your data? In-Reply-To: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E1760B9@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> References: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E1760B9@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> Message-ID: <1265391314.15790.17.camel@Nokia-N900-51-1> That's true - borders are pretty close to no-man's land, especially for a non-citizen. ----- Original message ----- > Not fully, no. It depends on these factors: > > * Are you a US citizen? Then yes, fully. > * Are you a non-US citizen, but on US land? Then yes, partially. > * Are you a non-US citizen, but not on US land? Then a bit. > > I just read a good article on this actually on Salon. There is > apparently a lot of precedent on this going back to a few years after > the Constitution was ratified, so apparently it's pretty much set in > stone, with your obvious tweaking here and there over time by Congress > and the Supreme Court (I suppose Executive Orders should be included, > although those don't seem to be able to stand the test of time). > > For example, I don't believe the Fifth Amendment applies at all to > anyone that is not a citizen and is outside the US. And that makes > sense. It shouldn't. We call that "foreign intelligence." Other > Amendments that don't fully apply are the First Amendment, clearly the > Second, etc. > > Reminder: Let's keep this conversation friendly. > > --- > Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ > Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On > Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies > > Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" > http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ > > -----Original Message----- > From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On > Behalf Of Karthik Poobalasubramanian > Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 8:16 AM > To: general at brlug.net > Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Police to get more access to your data? > > IANAL but doesn't the US Constitution, with few exceptions, apply to all > Citizens and non-citizens alike? > > > > -- > Karthik Poobalasubramanian > Louisiana Board of Regents > karthik at poobal.net > karthik at la.gov > (225) 341-5855 > skype: poobal > > > On Feb 5, 2010, at 4:09 AM, John Hebert wrote: > > > My thoughts: > > > > 1) Use Freenet (http://freenetproject.org/) to store and share your > data, as well as to chat and browse anonymously on an encrypted > peer-to-peer network. Sure, it still depends on keeping your passphrase > private, but how far would the FBI go to force someone to give their > passphrase? Start practicing holding your breath underwater. > > > > 2) The article? is misleadingly titled "Police want backdoor to Web > users' private data" > (http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10446503-38.html?tag=digg2), but it > is about the results of a survey of some law enforcement officers. I was > more worried about David Duke's poll surveys than this yellow journalism > by Declan McCullagh. Shame, shame, SHAME on you Dustin for even > mentioning this article on the mailing list. Oh, wait. It is your > mailing list... > > > > 3) Law enforcement can and do use actual investigative techniques to > find those who create child pornography (i.e.; photography of people > less than 18 years of age performing sexual activity). A well-designed > and secured network for law enforcement to do their jobs is a good > thing. Think about this: law enforcement officials are using email now > to exchange information about investigations. (!!!) > > > >? It seems kinda ass-backwards for some law enforcement officials to > take away the 5th Amendment for all US citizens because some citizens > keep a collection of certain bits on the computers when there are cases > of actual sexual abuse of children (again, under 18 years) within this > country, not to mention other countries. Those US citizens who vote with > their cable TV remotes and support taking away the 5th may not want to > visit certain other countries. See > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_consent. Look for the big black spot > on the map. > > > > 4) Stupid border guards don't know the difference between child > pornography and hentai. > > > > Extra bonus points for comments on the philosophical problems involved > with enforcing pornography laws perceived with analog interfaces. > > > > John > > _______________________________________________ > > General mailing list > > General at brlug.net > > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Too easy to turn nasty. --- Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of Jonathan Roberts Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 11:33 AM To: general at brlug.net Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Police to get more access to your data? Regarding the reminder, does that mean we shouldn't talk about how many politicians (both parties) ignore the Constitution routinely? Or should we not talk about the fact that many of them haven't even read it? :) Jonathan On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Dustin Puryear wrote: Reminder: Let's keep this conversation friendly. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Too easy to turn nasty. > > > > --- > Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ > Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On > Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies > > Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" > http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ > > > > *From:* general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] *On > Behalf Of *Jonathan Roberts > *Sent:* Friday, February 05, 2010 11:33 AM > > *To:* general at brlug.net > *Subject:* Re: [brlug-general] Police to get more access to your data? > > > > Regarding the reminder, does that mean we shouldn't talk about how many > politicians (both parties) ignore the Constitution routinely? Or should we > not talk about the fact that many of them haven't even read it? :) > > > Jonathan > > On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Dustin Puryear > wrote: > > > > Reminder: Let's keep this conversation friendly. > > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karthik at poobal.net Fri Feb 5 13:29:09 2010 From: karthik at poobal.net (Karthik Poobalasubramanian) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 13:29:09 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] Police to get more access to your data? In-Reply-To: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E1760BB@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> References: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E1760B9@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E1760BB@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> Message-ID: <8980BB73-6185-40BB-A33E-B0B8ADA21F93@poobal.net> Or we can move the discussion to the politics mailing list. It's free for all over there. -- Karthik Poobalasubramanian Louisiana Board of Regents karthik at poobal.net karthik at la.gov (225) 341-5855 skype: poobal On Feb 5, 2010, at 12:19 PM, Dustin Puryear wrote: > Stay high-level on the general topic, but don?t discuss specific politicians, parties, etc. So I?d avoid that. Too easy to turn nasty. > > --- > Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ > Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On > Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies > > Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" > http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ > > From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of Jonathan Roberts > Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 11:33 AM > To: general at brlug.net > Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Police to get more access to your data? > > Regarding the reminder, does that mean we shouldn't talk about how many politicians (both parties) ignore the Constitution routinely? Or should we not talk about the fact that many of them haven't even read it? :) > > > Jonathan > > > On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Dustin Puryear wrote: > > > Reminder: Let's keep this conversation friendly. > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net From dpuryear at puryear-it.com Fri Feb 5 16:05:07 2010 From: dpuryear at puryear-it.com (Dustin Puryear) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 16:05:07 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] Police to get more access to your data? References: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E1760B9@sbs.Puryear-IT.local><43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E1760BB@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> <8980BB73-6185-40BB-A33E-B0B8ADA21F93@poobal.net> Message-ID: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E1760C8@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> Uh, even I'm not on that list.. ;-) --- Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ -----Original Message----- From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of Karthik Poobalasubramanian Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 1:29 PM To: general at brlug.net Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Police to get more access to your data? Or we can move the discussion to the politics mailing list. It's free for all over there. -- Karthik Poobalasubramanian Louisiana Board of Regents karthik at poobal.net karthik at la.gov (225) 341-5855 skype: poobal On Feb 5, 2010, at 12:19 PM, Dustin Puryear wrote: > Stay high-level on the general topic, but don't discuss specific politicians, parties, etc. So I'd avoid that. Too easy to turn nasty. > > --- > Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ > Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On > Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies > > Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" > http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ > > From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of Jonathan Roberts > Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 11:33 AM > To: general at brlug.net > Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Police to get more access to your data? > > Regarding the reminder, does that mean we shouldn't talk about how many politicians (both parties) ignore the Constitution routinely? Or should we not talk about the fact that many of them haven't even read it? :) > > > Jonathan > > > On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Dustin Puryear wrote: > > > Reminder: Let's keep this conversation friendly. > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net _______________________________________________ General mailing list General at brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net From johnalexhebert at gmail.com Sat Feb 6 12:32:00 2010 From: johnalexhebert at gmail.com (John Hebert) Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 12:32:00 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] moving Police to get more access to your data? to politics@brlug.net Message-ID: To subscribe to politics at brlug.net, see http://www.brlug.net/lists.php3. John -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Ah, the days. --- Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From torrancew at gmail.com Thu Feb 11 13:52:09 2010 From: torrancew at gmail.com (Warren Tray Torrance) Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 13:52:09 -0600 (CST) Subject: [brlug-general] Should tech companies be run by tyrants? In-Reply-To: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E17616B@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> Message-ID: I think it depends on the goal and nature of the company. For a company that seeks to create innovative, creative, and new products, someone will have to be the bad guy, and drop the hammer on certain ideas and/or features. However, he or she may not always make the right call, and you wind up with an AppleTV, Newton, etc. every now and then. If the company is a service provider of some sort, I'd say it should be run by the best practices for that particular field, and not any one person so much (a pipe dream, yes, but I still feel that way). I think that, in the case of that particular article, Apple doesn't have just Steve Jobs to thank for its recent success. They have a good team, and their product designer, Jonny Ives is at the top of his game too - after all, I feel that alot of their recent success comes from the "sex appeal" of their products. I'm also not so sure that the iPad is "a triumph of technology and a completely new way of doing things," as the article suggests. It's really more of a large iPod Touch, with the option for a 3G modem.Warren "Tray" Torrance On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 13:08, Dustin Puryear <dpuryear at puryear-it.com> wrote: Good article! http://www.techradar.com/news/world-of-tech/why-every-tech-firm-needs-a-tyrant-at-the-top-669583 The article discusses the issue of having too muchmanagement vs. a strong, central authority on top. It does mention Microsoft. Don't go on a rant. This is aboutmanagement philosphy more than a specific company. ;-) --- Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/  _______________________________________________ General mailing list General at brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 563 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From gremln007 at gmail.com Thu Feb 11 13:58:39 2010 From: gremln007 at gmail.com (Jonathan Roberts) Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 13:58:39 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] Should tech companies be run by tyrants? In-Reply-To: References: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E17616B@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> Message-ID: Perhaps a bit off the topic, but.... What do you think is wrong about the AppleTV? I don't have one myself but it seems to be a good product from what I have seen and read. Jonathan On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Warren Tray wrote: > I think it depends on the goal and nature of the company. For a company > that seeks to create innovative, creative, and *new* products, someone > will have to be the bad guy, and drop the hammer on certain ideas and/or > features. However, he or she may not always make the right call, and you > wind up with an AppleTV, Newton, etc. every now and then. If the company is > a service provider of some sort, I'd say it should be run by the best > practices for that particular field, and not any one person so much (a pipe > dream, yes, but I still feel that way). > > I think that, in the case of that particular article, Apple doesn't have > just Steve Jobs to thank for its recent success. They have a good team, and > their product designer, Jonny Ives is at the top of his game too - after > all, I feel that alot of their recent success comes from the "sex appeal" of > their products. > > I'm also not so sure that the iPad is "a triumph of technology and a > completely new way of doing things," as the article suggests. It's really > more of a large iPod Touch, with the option for a 3G modem. > Warren "Tray" Torrance > > > On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 13:08, Dustin Puryear wrote: > >> Good article! >> >> >> >> >> http://www.techradar.com/news/world-of-tech/why-every-tech-firm-needs-a-tyrant-at-the-top-669583 >> >> >> >> The article discusses the issue of having too much management vs. a >> strong, central authority on top. >> >> >> >> It does mention Microsoft. Don't go on a rant. This is about management >> philosphy more than a specific company. ;-) >> >> >> >> --- >> Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ >> Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On >> Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies >> >> Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" >> http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> General mailing list >> General at brlug.net >> http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Ah, the days. > > > > --- > Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ > Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On > Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies > > Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" > http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jwhite at pncpa.com Thu Feb 11 14:04:10 2010 From: jwhite at pncpa.com (Jarred White) Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 14:04:10 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] Should tech companies be run by tyrants? In-Reply-To: References: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E17616B@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> Message-ID: I don't see/hear Apple TV marketed a lot... in fact I forget about it most of the time. And aside from sanctioned marketing by Apple themselves, I never see/hear anyone just talking or buzzing about it either. From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of Jonathan Roberts Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 1:59 PM To: general at brlug.net Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Should tech companies be run by tyrants? Perhaps a bit off the topic, but.... What do you think is wrong about the AppleTV? I don't have one myself but it seems to be a good product from what I have seen and read. Jonathan On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Warren Tray wrote: I think it depends on the goal and nature of the company. For a company that seeks to create innovative, creative, and new products, someone will have to be the bad guy, and drop the hammer on certain ideas and/or features. However, he or she may not always make the right call, and you wind up with an AppleTV, Newton, etc. every now and then. If the company is a service provider of some sort, I'd say it should be run by the best practices for that particular field, and not any one person so much (a pipe dream, yes, but I still feel that way). I think that, in the case of that particular article, Apple doesn't have just Steve Jobs to thank for its recent success. They have a good team, and their product designer, Jonny Ives is at the top of his game too - after all, I feel that alot of their recent success comes from the "sex appeal" of their products. I'm also not so sure that the iPad is "a triumph of technology and a completely new way of doing things," as the article suggests. It's really more of a large iPod Touch, with the option for a 3G modem. Warren "Tray" Torrance On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 13:08, Dustin Puryear wrote: Good article! http://www.techradar.com/news/world-of-tech/why-every-tech-firm-needs-a- tyrant-at-the-top-669583 The article discusses the issue of having too much management vs. a strong, central authority on top. It does mention Microsoft. Don't go on a rant. 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If I came across a cheap enough one, however, I'd throw Boxee on it in a heartbeat, and have a poor-man's almost-PVR. I was just pointing out that it's not the revolutionary, game-changing, hoop jumping, buzzword-creating type of device that Apple likes to release. Warren "Tray" Torrance On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 13:58, Jonathan Roberts <gremln007 at gmail.com> wrote: Perhaps a bit off the topic, but....   What do you think is wrong about the AppleTV?  I don't have one myself but it seems to be a good product from what I have seen and read. Jonathan On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Warren Tray <torrancew at gmail.com> wrote: I think it depends on the goal and nature of the company. For a company that seeks to create innovative, creative, and new products, someone will have to be the bad guy, and drop the hammer on certain ideas and/or features. However, he or she may not always make the right call, and you wind up with an AppleTV, Newton, etc. every now and then. If the company is a service provider of some sort, I'd say it should be run by the best practices for that particular field, and not any one person so much (a pipe dream, yes, but I still feel that way). I think that, in the case of that particular article, Apple doesn't have just Steve Jobs to thank for its recent success. They have a good team, and their product designer, Jonny Ives is at the top of his game too - after all, I feel that alot of their recent success comes from the "sex appeal" of their products. I'm also not so sure that the iPad is "a triumph of technology and a completely new way of doing things," as the article suggests. It's really more of a large iPod Touch, with the option for a 3G modem.Warren "Tray" Torrance On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 13:08, Dustin Puryear <dpuryear at puryear-it.com> wrote: Good article! http://www.techradar.com/news/world-of-tech/why-every-tech-firm-needs-a-tyrant-at-the-top-669583 The article discusses the issue of having too muchmanagement vs. a strong, central authority on top. It does mention Microsoft. Don't go on a rant. 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You also see a similar effect in the open source world - look back on the Linux kernel development from the first Bitnet announcement to today for example. Regards, Edmund Cramp -- Motion Lab Systems, Inc. 15045 Old Hammond Highway, Baton Rouge, LA 70816 USA Tel: +1 (225) 272-7364 Fax: +1 (225) 272-7336 Web: http://www.motion-labs.com From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of Dustin Puryear Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 1:08 PM To: general at brlug.net Subject: [brlug-general] Should tech companies be run by tyrants? Good article! http://www.techradar.com/news/world-of-tech/why-every-tech-firm-needs-a-tyrant-at-the-top-669583 The article discusses the issue of having too much management vs. a strong, central authority on top. It does mention Microsoft. Don't go on a rant. This is about management philosphy more than a specific company. ;-) --- Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dpuryear at puryear-it.com Fri Feb 12 13:06:47 2010 From: dpuryear at puryear-it.com (Dustin Puryear) Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 13:06:47 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] Should tech companies be run by tyrants? References: <34adf713.1caac07.5e809aa.6784@motion-labs.com> Message-ID: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E176185@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> Do you feel the huge influx of commercial development teams supporting open source is a good thing (e.g., IBM)? --- Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of Edmund Cramp Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 11:17 AM To: 'general at brlug.net' Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Should tech companies be run by tyrants? The article makes its points and I don't think that they would come as a surprise to anyone who's been kicked through a few different companies over the years. It's much the same point that's made twenty years ago in The Mythical Man-Month - smaller teams are better than larger teams when it comes to successfully implementing an idea, program, hardware or concept. Apple is a good example of a company run from the top, and sadly, HP these days is an example of the failure of large teams - I think MS is somewhere in the middle these days. You also see a similar effect in the open source world - look back on the Linux kernel development from the first Bitnet announcement to today for example. Regards, Edmund Cramp -- Motion Lab Systems, Inc. 15045 Old Hammond Highway, Baton Rouge, LA 70816 USA Tel: +1 (225) 272-7364 Fax: +1 (225) 272-7336 Web: http://www.motion-labs.com ________________________________ From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of Dustin Puryear Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 1:08 PM To: general at brlug.net Subject: [brlug-general] Should tech companies be run by tyrants? Good article! http://www.techradar.com/news/world-of-tech/why-every-tech-firm-needs-a- tyrant-at-the-top-669583 The article discusses the issue of having too much management vs. a strong, central authority on top. It does mention Microsoft. Don't go on a rant. This is about management philosphy more than a specific company. ;-) --- Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Ellie and I had both mentioned we wanted to do one of those geeky conventions one day. --- Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of John Hebert Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 2:02 PM To: general at brlug.net Subject: [brlug-general] Geek Convention Finder I was looking for a reason to justify taking an Amtrak trip to L.A. and found this site: http://containment.greententacles.com/ John -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Any ideas? --Lance Lambert From torrancew at gmail.com Mon Feb 15 10:09:38 2010 From: torrancew at gmail.com (Warren "Tray" Torrance) Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 10:09:38 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] Front end for BIND In-Reply-To: <2e277b741002150801q41e12a21p415a4a9047a7b4ad@mail.gmail.com> References: <2e277b741002150801q41e12a21p415a4a9047a7b4ad@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1266250178.3822.5.camel@Nokia-N900-51-1> Webmin (and probably similar software, like ISPConfig, etc) has a really easy front end. ----- Original message ----- > Does anyone know of a good UI front end for bind?? 90% of what I do > DNS wise is simple stuff...domains, sub-domain, cname, a record, mx > record etc. > I'm looking for an alternative to editing the zone files by hand and > something that I can have other people use with less of a chance of > destroying the zone. > > Any ideas? > > > --Lance Lambert > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jwhite at pncpa.com Mon Feb 15 10:11:31 2010 From: jwhite at pncpa.com (Jarred White) Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 10:11:31 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] Geek Convention Finder In-Reply-To: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E176197@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> References: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E176197@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> Message-ID: I went to WizardWorld in Chicago a few years ago. It was awesome. I want to attend Comicon at some point. Lake Charles has an event each year called MechaCon. It's not huge, but it's growing. From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of Dustin Puryear Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 8:17 AM To: general at brlug.net Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Geek Convention Finder Oh, cool! Ellie and I had both mentioned we wanted to do one of those geeky conventions one day. --- Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of John Hebert Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 2:02 PM To: general at brlug.net Subject: [brlug-general] Geek Convention Finder I was looking for a reason to justify taking an Amtrak trip to L.A. and found this site: http://containment.greententacles.com/ John ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pursuant to IRS Circular 230 and IRS regulations we inform you that any federal tax advice contained in this communication is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties imposed under the Internal Revenue Code. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Postlethwaite & Netterville Implements New Email Encryption Software to Further Protect Confidential Data Confidentiality is a hallmark of the accounting profession and it is of the utmost importance to our client relationships. At P&,, we are committed to keeping your data confidential which is why we are implementing new email encryption software. This software inspects all outbound emails from our firm. Emails that contain attachments will require you to enter a password to download the file. This ensures that your confidential data cannot be read by anyone other than the intended recipient. Emails with attachments will include a link to a secure web server. Click on the link to download the attachment. The first time you receive a secure email from the firm you will be required to setup a password. This will be your password to access future attachments. For our clients and others, there will be a small step to download the encrypted files; however, we believe the added confidentiality benefits far outweigh the few seconds that are required to access the attachment. If you have questions regarding this new process or if you forget your password, please contact Jessica Aymond, P& Network Administrator, at 225.922.4600. ===================================================================================================== -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jwhite at pncpa.com Mon Feb 15 10:12:47 2010 From: jwhite at pncpa.com (Jarred White) Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 10:12:47 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] Front end for BIND In-Reply-To: <1266250178.3822.5.camel@Nokia-N900-51-1> References: <2e277b741002150801q41e12a21p415a4a9047a7b4ad@mail.gmail.com> <1266250178.3822.5.camel@Nokia-N900-51-1> Message-ID: Seconding webmin. From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of Warren "Tray" Torrance Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 10:10 AM To: general at brlug.net Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Front end for BIND Webmin (and probably similar software, like ISPConfig, etc) has a really easy front end. ----- Original message ----- > Does anyone know of a good UI front end for bind? 90% of what I do > DNS wise is simple stuff...domains, sub-domain, cname, a record, mx > record etc. > I'm looking for an alternative to editing the zone files by hand and > something that I can have other people use with less of a chance of > destroying the zone. > > Any ideas? > > > --Lance Lambert > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pursuant to IRS Circular 230 and IRS regulations we inform you that any federal tax advice contained in this communication is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties imposed under the Internal Revenue Code. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Postlethwaite & Netterville Implements New Email Encryption Software to Further Protect Confidential Data Confidentiality is a hallmark of the accounting profession and it is of the utmost importance to our client relationships. At P&,, we are committed to keeping your data confidential which is why we are implementing new email encryption software. This software inspects all outbound emails from our firm. Emails that contain attachments will require you to enter a password to download the file. This ensures that your confidential data cannot be read by anyone other than the intended recipient. Emails with attachments will include a link to a secure web server. Click on the link to download the attachment. The first time you receive a secure email from the firm you will be required to setup a password. This will be your password to access future attachments. For our clients and others, there will be a small step to download the encrypted files; however, we believe the added confidentiality benefits far outweigh the few seconds that are required to access the attachment. 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On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Jarred White wrote: > Seconding webmin. > > > > From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf > Of Warren "Tray" Torrance > Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 10:10 AM > To: general at brlug.net > Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Front end for BIND > > > > Webmin (and probably similar software, like ISPConfig, etc) has a really > easy front end. > ----- Original message ----- >> Does anyone know of a good UI front end for bind?? 90% of what I do >> DNS wise is simple stuff...domains, sub-domain, cname, a record, mx >> record etc. >> I'm looking for an alternative to editing the zone files by hand and >> something that I can have other people use with less of a chance of >> destroying the zone. >> >> Any ideas? >> >> >> --Lance Lambert >> >> _______________________________________________ >> General mailing list >> General at brlug.net >> http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Pursuant to IRS Circular 230 and IRS regulations we inform you that any > federal tax advice > contained in this communication is not intended or written to be used, and > cannot be used, > for the purpose of avoiding penalties imposed under the Internal Revenue > Code. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Postlethwaite & Netterville Implements New Email Encryption Software to > Further Protect Confidential Data > > Confidentiality is a hallmark of the accounting profession and it is of the > utmost importance to our client > relationships. At P&N, we are committed to keeping your data confidential > which is why we are implementing > new email encryption software. This software inspects all outbound emails > from our firm. Emails that > contain attachments will require you to enter a password to download the > file. This ensures that your > confidential data cannot be read by anyone other than the intended > recipient. > > Emails with attachments will include a link to a secure web server. Click > on the link to download the attachment. > The first time you receive a secure email from the firm you will be required > to setup a password. This will > be your password to access future attachments. For our clients and others, > there will be a small step to > download the encrypted files; however, we believe the added confidentiality > benefits far outweigh the few > seconds that are required to access the attachment. > > If you have questions regarding this new process or if you forget your > password, please contact Jessica Aymond, > P&N Network Administrator, at 225.922.4600. > ===================================================================================================== > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > From torrancew at gmail.com Mon Feb 15 10:26:09 2010 From: torrancew at gmail.com (Warren "Tray" Torrance) Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 10:26:09 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] Front end for BIND In-Reply-To: <2e277b741002150823k67720b9du13a095d8a19e51a1@mail.gmail.com> References: <2e277b741002150801q41e12a21p415a4a9047a7b4ad@mail.gmail.com> <1266250178.3822.5.camel@Nokia-N900-51-1> <2e277b741002150823k67720b9du13a095d8a19e51a1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1266251169.3908.5.camel@Nokia-N900-51-1> I can vouch for .deb and .rpm distro compliance. ----- Original message ----- > Is there a particular distro that webmin works best on? > > On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Jarred White wrote: > > Seconding webmin. > > > > > > > > From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf > > Of Warren "Tray" Torrance > > Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 10:10 AM > > To: general at brlug.net > > Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Front end for BIND > > > > > > > > Webmin (and probably similar software, like ISPConfig, etc) has a really > > easy front end. > > ----- Original message ----- > > > Does anyone know of a good UI front end for bind?? 90% of what I do > > > DNS wise is simple stuff...domains, sub-domain, cname, a record, mx > > > record etc. > > > I'm looking for an alternative to editing the zone files by hand and > > > something that I can have other people use with less of a chance of > > > destroying the zone. > > > > > > Any ideas? > > > > > > > > > --Lance Lambert > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > General mailing list > > > General at brlug.net > > > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Pursuant to IRS Circular 230 and IRS regulations we inform you that any > > federal tax advice > > contained in this communication is not intended or written to be used, and > > cannot be used, > > for the purpose of avoiding penalties imposed under the Internal Revenue > > Code. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Postlethwaite & Netterville Implements New Email Encryption Software to > > Further Protect Confidential Data > > > > Confidentiality is a hallmark of the accounting profession and it is of the > > utmost importance to our client > > relationships.? At P&N, we are committed to keeping your data confidential > > which is why we are implementing > > new email encryption software.? This software inspects all outbound emails > > from our firm.? Emails that > > contain attachments will require you to enter a password to download the > > file.? This ensures that your > > confidential data cannot be read by anyone other than the intended > > recipient. > > > > Emails with attachments will include a link to a secure web server.? Click > > on the link to download the attachment. > > The first time you receive a secure email from the firm you will be required > > to setup a password.? This will > > be your password to access future attachments.? For our clients and others, > > there will be a small step to > > download the encrypted files; however, we believe the added confidentiality > > benefits far outweigh the few > > seconds that are required to access the attachment. > > > > If you have questions regarding this new process or if you forget your > > password, please contact Jessica Aymond, > > P&N Network Administrator, at 225.922.4600. > > ===================================================================================================== > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > General mailing list > > General at brlug.net > > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dpuryear at puryear-it.com Mon Feb 15 10:29:45 2010 From: dpuryear at puryear-it.com (Dustin Puryear) Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 10:29:45 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] Geek Convention Finder References: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E176197@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> Message-ID: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E17619B@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> This? http://www.mechacon.com/news.html Looks to be a NOLA event (at least now). --- Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of Jarred White Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 10:12 AM To: general at brlug.net Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Geek Convention Finder I went to WizardWorld in Chicago a few years ago. It was awesome. I want to attend Comicon at some point. Lake Charles has an event each year called MechaCon. It's not huge, but it's growing. From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of Dustin Puryear Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 8:17 AM To: general at brlug.net Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Geek Convention Finder Oh, cool! Ellie and I had both mentioned we wanted to do one of those geeky conventions one day. --- Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of John Hebert Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 2:02 PM To: general at brlug.net Subject: [brlug-general] Geek Convention Finder I was looking for a reason to justify taking an Amtrak trip to L.A. and found this site: http://containment.greententacles.com/ John ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------------------- Pursuant to IRS Circular 230 and IRS regulations we inform you that any federal tax advice contained in this communication is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties imposed under the Internal Revenue Code. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------ Postlethwaite & Netterville Implements New Email Encryption Software to Further Protect Confidential Data Confidentiality is a hallmark of the accounting profession and it is of the utmost importance to our client relationships. At P&N, we are committed to keeping your data confidential which is why we are implementing new email encryption software. This software inspects all outbound emails from our firm. Emails that contain attachments will require you to enter a password to download the file. This ensures that your confidential data cannot be read by anyone other than the intended recipient. Emails with attachments will include a link to a secure web server. Click on the link to download the attachment. The first time you receive a secure email from the firm you will be required to setup a password. This will be your password to access future attachments. For our clients and others, there will be a small step to download the encrypted files; however, we believe the added confidentiality benefits far outweigh the few seconds that are required to access the attachment. If you have questions regarding this new process or if you forget your password, please contact Jessica Aymond, P&N Network Administrator, at 225.922.4600. ======================================================================== ============================= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From worm402 at gmail.com Mon Feb 15 10:32:13 2010 From: worm402 at gmail.com (worms) Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 10:32:13 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] Front end for BIND In-Reply-To: <1266251169.3908.5.camel@Nokia-N900-51-1> References: <2e277b741002150801q41e12a21p415a4a9047a7b4ad@mail.gmail.com> <1266250178.3822.5.camel@Nokia-N900-51-1> <2e277b741002150823k67720b9du13a095d8a19e51a1@mail.gmail.com> <1266251169.3908.5.camel@Nokia-N900-51-1> Message-ID: <2e277b741002150832i49c33859n5ccc95164f07976d@mail.gmail.com> Cool, thanks for the info. On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Warren "Tray" Torrance wrote: > I can vouch for .deb and .rpm distro compliance. > > ----- Original message ----- >> Is there a particular distro that webmin works best on? >> >> On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Jarred White wrote: >> > Seconding webmin. >> > >> > >> > >> > From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On >> > Behalf >> > Of Warren "Tray" Torrance >> > Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 10:10 AM >> > To: general at brlug.net >> > Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Front end for BIND >> > >> > >> > >> > Webmin (and probably similar software, like ISPConfig, etc) has a really >> > easy front end. >> > ----- Original message ----- >> > > Does anyone know of a good UI front end for bind?? 90% of what I do >> > > DNS wise is simple stuff...domains, sub-domain, cname, a record, mx >> > > record etc. >> > > I'm looking for an alternative to editing the zone files by hand and >> > > something that I can have other people use with less of a chance of >> > > destroying the zone. >> > > >> > > Any ideas? >> > > >> > > >> > > --Lance Lambert >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > General mailing list >> > > General at brlug.net >> > > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net >> > >> > >> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > Pursuant to IRS Circular 230 and IRS regulations we inform you that any >> > federal tax advice >> > contained in this communication is not intended or written to be used, >> > and >> > cannot be used, >> > for the purpose of avoiding penalties imposed under the Internal Revenue >> > Code. >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > Postlethwaite & Netterville Implements New Email Encryption Software to >> > Further Protect Confidential Data >> > >> > Confidentiality is a hallmark of the accounting profession and it is of >> > the >> > utmost importance to our client >> > relationships.? At P&N, we are committed to keeping your data >> > confidential >> > which is why we are implementing >> > new email encryption software.? This software inspects all outbound >> > emails >> > from our firm.? Emails that >> > contain attachments will require you to enter a password to download the >> > file.? This ensures that your >> > confidential data cannot be read by anyone other than the intended >> > recipient. >> > >> > Emails with attachments will include a link to a secure web server. >> > Click >> > on the link to download the attachment. >> > The first time you receive a secure email from the firm you will be >> > required >> > to setup a password.? This will >> > be your password to access future attachments.? For our clients and >> > others, >> > there will be a small step to >> > download the encrypted files; however, we believe the added >> > confidentiality >> > benefits far outweigh the few >> > seconds that are required to access the attachment. >> > >> > If you have questions regarding this new process or if you forget your >> > password, please contact Jessica Aymond, >> > P&N Network Administrator, at 225.922.4600. >> > >> > ===================================================================================================== >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > General mailing list >> > General at brlug.net >> > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net >> > >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> General mailing list >> General at brlug.net >> http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > From jwhite at pncpa.com Mon Feb 15 10:33:52 2010 From: jwhite at pncpa.com (Jarred White) Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 10:33:52 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] Front end for BIND In-Reply-To: <2e277b741002150823k67720b9du13a095d8a19e51a1@mail.gmail.com> References: <2e277b741002150801q41e12a21p415a4a9047a7b4ad@mail.gmail.com> <1266250178.3822.5.camel@Nokia-N900-51-1> <2e277b741002150823k67720b9du13a095d8a19e51a1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I've seen webmin work with just about anything. I'll bet it works real well with debian. -----Original Message----- From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of worms Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 10:23 AM To: general at brlug.net Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Front end for BIND Is there a particular distro that webmin works best on? On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Jarred White wrote: > Seconding webmin. > > > > From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf > Of Warren "Tray" Torrance > Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 10:10 AM > To: general at brlug.net > Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Front end for BIND > > > > Webmin (and probably similar software, like ISPConfig, etc) has a really > easy front end. > ----- Original message ----- >> Does anyone know of a good UI front end for bind?? 90% of what I do >> DNS wise is simple stuff...domains, sub-domain, cname, a record, mx >> record etc. >> I'm looking for an alternative to editing the zone files by hand and >> something that I can have other people use with less of a chance of >> destroying the zone. >> >> Any ideas? >> >> >> --Lance Lambert >> >> _______________________________________________ >> General mailing list >> General at brlug.net >> http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Pursuant to IRS Circular 230 and IRS regulations we inform you that any > federal tax advice > contained in this communication is not intended or written to be used, and > cannot be used, > for the purpose of avoiding penalties imposed under the Internal Revenue > Code. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Postlethwaite & Netterville Implements New Email Encryption Software to > Further Protect Confidential Data > > Confidentiality is a hallmark of the accounting profession and it is of the > utmost importance to our client > relationships. At P&N, we are committed to keeping your data confidential > which is why we are implementing > new email encryption software. This software inspects all outbound emails > from our firm. Emails that > contain attachments will require you to enter a password to download the > file. This ensures that your > confidential data cannot be read by anyone other than the intended > recipient. > > Emails with attachments will include a link to a secure web server. Click > on the link to download the attachment. > The first time you receive a secure email from the firm you will be required > to setup a password. This will > be your password to access future attachments. For our clients and others, > there will be a small step to > download the encrypted files; however, we believe the added confidentiality > benefits far outweigh the few > seconds that are required to access the attachment. > > If you have questions regarding this new process or if you forget your > password, please contact Jessica Aymond, > P&N Network Administrator, at 225.922.4600. > ===================================================================================================== > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > _______________________________________________ General mailing list General at brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pursuant to IRS Circular 230 and IRS regulations we inform you that any federal tax advice contained in this communication is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties imposed under the Internal Revenue Code. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Postlethwaite & Netterville Implements New Email Encryption Software to Further Protect Confidential Data Confidentiality is a hallmark of the accounting profession and it is of the utmost importance to our client relationships. At P&,, we are committed to keeping your data confidential which is why we are implementing new email encryption software. This software inspects all outbound emails from our firm. Emails that contain attachments will require you to enter a password to download the file. This ensures that your confidential data cannot be read by anyone other than the intended recipient. Emails with attachments will include a link to a secure web server. Click on the link to download the attachment. The first time you receive a secure email from the firm you will be required to setup a password. This will be your password to access future attachments. For our clients and others, there will be a small step to download the encrypted files; however, we believe the added confidentiality benefits far outweigh the few seconds that are required to access the attachment. If you have questions regarding this new process or if you forget your password, please contact Jessica Aymond, P& Network Administrator, at 225.922.4600. ===================================================================================================== From pietu at weblizards.net Mon Feb 15 10:43:54 2010 From: pietu at weblizards.net (Petri Laihonen) Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 10:43:54 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] Geek Convention Finder In-Reply-To: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E17619B@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> References: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E176197@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E17619B@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> Message-ID: As far as I know, this is the first year MechaCon is going to be in New Orleans..... And if they are growing more, will probably going to stay here. I'll be attending this year.... Petri On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Dustin Puryear wrote: > This? > > > > http://www.mechacon.com/news.html > > > > Looks to be a NOLA event (at least now). > > > > --- > Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ > Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On > Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies > > Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" > http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ > > > > *From:* general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] *On > Behalf Of *Jarred White > *Sent:* Monday, February 15, 2010 10:12 AM > *To:* general at brlug.net > *Subject:* Re: [brlug-general] Geek Convention Finder > > > > I went to WizardWorld in Chicago a few years ago. It was awesome. > > > > I want to attend Comicon at some point. > > > > Lake Charles has an event each year called MechaCon. It?s not huge, but > it?s growing. > > > > *From:* general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] *On > Behalf Of *Dustin Puryear > *Sent:* Monday, February 15, 2010 8:17 AM > *To:* general at brlug.net > *Subject:* Re: [brlug-general] Geek Convention Finder > > > > Oh, cool! Ellie and I had both mentioned we wanted to do one of those geeky > conventions one day. > > > > --- > Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ > Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On > Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies > > Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" > http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ > > > > *From:* general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] *On > Behalf Of *John Hebert > *Sent:* Saturday, February 13, 2010 2:02 PM > *To:* general at brlug.net > *Subject:* [brlug-general] Geek Convention Finder > > > > I was looking for a reason to justify taking an Amtrak trip to L.A. and > found this site: > > > > http://containment.greententacles.com/ > > > > John > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Pursuant to IRS Circular 230 and IRS regulations we inform you that any federal tax advice > > contained in this communication is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, > > for the purpose of avoiding penalties imposed under the Internal Revenue Code. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Postlethwaite & Netterville Implements New Email Encryption Software to Further Protect Confidential Data > > > > Confidentiality is a hallmark of the accounting profession and it is of the utmost importance to our client > > relationships. 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URL: From bendily at gmail.com Mon Feb 15 10:57:10 2010 From: bendily at gmail.com (Brad Bendily) Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 10:57:10 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] Front end for BIND In-Reply-To: <2e277b741002150801q41e12a21p415a4a9047a7b4ad@mail.gmail.com> References: <2e277b741002150801q41e12a21p415a4a9047a7b4ad@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I found this on freshmeat the other day, but haven't used it: http://freshmeat.net/projects/gadmin-bind there are a few others, but not simple stuff. ex: http://iptrack.sourceforge.net/ open net admin http://opennetadmin.com/ last I looked at this it isn't 100% ready for DNS admining, but it's coming along. bb On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 10:01 AM, worms wrote: > Does anyone know of a good UI front end for bind? ?90% of what I do > DNS wise is simple stuff...domains, sub-domain, cname, a record, mx > record etc. > I'm looking for an alternative to editing the zone files by hand and > something that I can have other people use with less of a chance of > destroying the zone. > > Any ideas? > > > --Lance Lambert > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > -- Have Mercy & Say Yeah From keiths at neill.net Mon Feb 15 17:09:07 2010 From: keiths at neill.net (Keith Stokes) Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 17:09:07 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] Front end for BIND In-Reply-To: <2e277b741002150823k67720b9du13a095d8a19e51a1@mail.gmail.com> References: <2e277b741002150801q41e12a21p415a4a9047a7b4ad@mail.gmail.com> <1266250178.3822.5.camel@Nokia-N900-51-1> <2e277b741002150823k67720b9du13a095d8a19e51a1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B79D413.1030609@neill.net> I ran it years ago on FreeBSD with no troubles. worms wrote: > Is there a particular distro that webmin works best on? > > On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Jarred White wrote: > >> Seconding webmin. >> >> >> >> From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf >> Of Warren "Tray" Torrance >> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 10:10 AM >> To: general at brlug.net >> Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Front end for BIND >> >> >> >> Webmin (and probably similar software, like ISPConfig, etc) has a really >> easy front end. >> ----- Original message ----- >> >>> Does anyone know of a good UI front end for bind? 90% of what I do >>> DNS wise is simple stuff...domains, sub-domain, cname, a record, mx >>> record etc. >>> I'm looking for an alternative to editing the zone files by hand and >>> something that I can have other people use with less of a chance of >>> destroying the zone. >>> >>> Any ideas? >>> >>> >>> --Lance Lambert >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> General mailing list >>> General at brlug.net >>> http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net >>> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Pursuant to IRS Circular 230 and IRS regulations we inform you that any >> federal tax advice >> contained in this communication is not intended or written to be used, and >> cannot be used, >> for the purpose of avoiding penalties imposed under the Internal Revenue >> Code. >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Postlethwaite & Netterville Implements New Email Encryption Software to >> Further Protect Confidential Data >> >> Confidentiality is a hallmark of the accounting profession and it is of the >> utmost importance to our client >> relationships. 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URL: From bendily at gmail.com Wed Feb 17 12:40:06 2010 From: bendily at gmail.com (Brad Bendily) Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 12:40:06 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] Apple In-Reply-To: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E1761ED@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> References: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E1761ED@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> Message-ID: i thought they were already in the thunder dome with google. i've seen a few blows, but nothing fatal either way. On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 12:36 PM, Dustin Puryear wrote: > See, we were just talking about Apple and some management styles. Look here: > > > > http://www.cracked.com/article_18377_5-reasons-you-should-be-scared-apple.html > > > > I do wonder if Apple will turn truly evil one day. > > > > If so, great! We can put them in the thunder dome with Adobe and let them > slug it out. -- Have Mercy & Say Yeah From karthik at poobal.net Wed Feb 17 13:15:34 2010 From: karthik at poobal.net (Karthik Poobalasubramanian) Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 13:15:34 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] Apple In-Reply-To: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E1761ED@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> References: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E1761ED@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> Message-ID: Competition should keep everyone grounded but I think as long as Jobs heads Apple, everyone there will be working to please him. I am happy to see that Microsft, Google and Apple are fighting for the Mobile Phone/App market Also, Microsoft and google are having a turf war for web search. Over the past couple of years Apple has become more of a consumer electronics company than a computer manufacturer. So, what do you guys think about Ubuntu's recent decision to change the default web search on their distribution from Google to Yahoo! ? https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2010-January/030065.html -- Karthik Poobalasubramanian karthik at poobal.net karthik at la.gov (225) 341-5855 skype: poobal On Feb 17, 2010, at 12:36 PM, Dustin Puryear wrote: > See, we were just talking about Apple and some management styles. Look here: > > http://www.cracked.com/article_18377_5-reasons-you-should-be-scared-apple.html > > I do wonder if Apple will turn truly evil one day. > > If so, great! We can put them in the thunder dome with Adobe and let them slug it out. > > --- > Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ > Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On > Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies > > Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" > http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net From bendily at gmail.com Wed Feb 17 13:59:27 2010 From: bendily at gmail.com (Brad Bendily) Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 13:59:27 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] Apple In-Reply-To: References: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E1761ED@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> Message-ID: meh. before i finished reading the link i was thinking they're changing it cause yahoo is gonna give them money. but, to me it doesn't really matter. i don't see any person using ubuntu caring either. cause anyone using ubuntu is going to know how to change the default to what they want any way. every time I reload windows I have to change the default search to google. i mean, open source projects need money too. ot, what is the deal with ubuntu lately. why is everyone jumping on the ubuntu bandwagon? it seems a little too dumbed down to me. too minimalistic. On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Karthik Poobalasubramanian wrote: > Competition should keep everyone grounded but I think as long as Jobs heads Apple, everyone there will be working to please him. I am happy to see that Microsft, Google and Apple are fighting for the Mobile Phone/App market Also, Microsoft and google are having a turf war for web search. > > Over the past couple of years Apple has become more of a consumer electronics company than a computer manufacturer. > > So, what do you guys think about Ubuntu's recent decision to change the default web search on their distribution from Google to Yahoo! ? > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2010-January/030065.html > > > > > -- > Karthik Poobalasubramanian > karthik at poobal.net > karthik at la.gov > (225) 341-5855 > skype: poobal > > > On Feb 17, 2010, at 12:36 PM, Dustin Puryear wrote: > >> See, we were just talking about Apple and some management styles. Look here: >> >> http://www.cracked.com/article_18377_5-reasons-you-should-be-scared-apple.html >> >> I do wonder if Apple will turn truly evil one day. >> >> If so, great! We can put them in the thunder dome with Adobe and let them slug it out. >> >> --- >> Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ >> Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On >> Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies >> >> Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" >> http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> General mailing list >> General at brlug.net >> http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > -- Have Mercy & Say Yeah From jordan_c_scott at yahoo.com Wed Feb 17 14:09:11 2010 From: jordan_c_scott at yahoo.com (Jordan Scott) Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 12:09:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: [brlug-general] Apple In-Reply-To: References: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E1761ED@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> Message-ID: <713333.22195.qm@web55304.mail.re4.yahoo.com> And for my first ever reply after years of lurching, I give you Brad Bendilly, the master of answering his own questions: "ot, what is the deal with ubuntu lately. why is everyone jumping on the ubuntu bandwagon? it seems a little too dumbed down to me. too minimalistic." Dumbed down = what people want. ----- Original Message ---- From: Brad Bendily To: general at brlug.net Sent: Wed, February 17, 2010 1:59:27 PM Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Apple meh. before i finished reading the link i was thinking they're changing it cause yahoo is gonna give them money. but, to me it doesn't really matter. i don't see any person using ubuntu caring either. cause anyone using ubuntu is going to know how to change the default to what they want any way. every time I reload windows I have to change the default search to google. i mean, open source projects need money too. ot, what is the deal with ubuntu lately. why is everyone jumping on the ubuntu bandwagon? it seems a little too dumbed down to me. too minimalistic. On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Karthik Poobalasubramanian wrote: > Competition should keep everyone grounded but I think as long as Jobs heads Apple, everyone there will be working to please him. I am happy to see that Microsft, Google and Apple are fighting for the Mobile Phone/App market Also, Microsoft and google are having a turf war for web search. > > Over the past couple of years Apple has become more of a consumer electronics company than a computer manufacturer. > > So, what do you guys think about Ubuntu's recent decision to change the default web search on their distribution from Google to Yahoo! ? > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2010-January/030065.html > > > > > -- > Karthik Poobalasubramanian > karthik at poobal.net > karthik at la.gov > (225) 341-5855 > skype: poobal > > > On Feb 17, 2010, at 12:36 PM, Dustin Puryear wrote: > >> See, we were just talking about Apple and some management styles. Look here: >> >> http://www.cracked.com/article_18377_5-reasons-you-should-be-scared-apple.html >> >> I do wonder if Apple will turn truly evil one day. >> >> If so, great! We can put them in the thunder dome with Adobe and let them slug it out. >> >> --- >> Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ >> Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On >> Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies >> >> Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" >> http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> General mailing list >> General at brlug.net >> http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > -- Have Mercy & Say Yeah _______________________________________________ General mailing list General at brlug.net http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net From keiths at neill.net Wed Feb 17 14:16:21 2010 From: keiths at neill.net (Keith Stokes) Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 14:16:21 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] Apple In-Reply-To: References: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E1761ED@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> Message-ID: <1B13B678-48E7-4487-BE59-677951993974@neill.net> I think the concept is that Ubuntu is dumbed-down and minimalistic to the degree that a normal computer user might be able to actually install and use it. It's got amazing hardware drivers too. I've had it work on brand-new hardware when no other "normal" distros would work. On Feb 17, 2010, at 1:59 PM, Brad Bendily wrote: > meh. > before i finished reading the link i was thinking they're changing it > cause yahoo is gonna give them money. > but, to me it doesn't really matter. i don't see any person using > ubuntu caring either. cause anyone using ubuntu > is going to know how to change the default to what they want any way. > every time I reload windows I have to change > the default search to google. i mean, open source projects need > money too. > > ot, what is the deal with ubuntu lately. why is everyone jumping on > the ubuntu bandwagon? > it seems a little too dumbed down to me. too minimalistic. > > On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Karthik Poobalasubramanian > wrote: >> Competition should keep everyone grounded but I think as long as >> Jobs heads Apple, everyone there will be working to please him. I >> am happy to see that Microsft, Google and Apple are fighting for >> the Mobile Phone/App market Also, Microsoft and google are having a >> turf war for web search. >> >> Over the past couple of years Apple has become more of a consumer >> electronics company than a computer manufacturer. >> >> So, what do you guys think about Ubuntu's recent decision to change >> the default web search on their distribution from Google to Yahoo! ? >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2010-January/030065.html >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Karthik Poobalasubramanian >> karthik at poobal.net >> karthik at la.gov >> (225) 341-5855 >> skype: poobal >> >> >> On Feb 17, 2010, at 12:36 PM, Dustin Puryear wrote: >> >>> See, we were just talking about Apple and some management styles. >>> Look here: >>> >>> http://www.cracked.com/article_18377_5-reasons-you-should-be-scared-apple.html >>> >>> I do wonder if Apple will turn truly evil one day. >>> >>> If so, great! We can put them in the thunder dome with Adobe and >>> let them slug it out. >>> >>> --- >>> Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ >>> Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On >>> Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies >>> >>> Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" >>> http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> General mailing list >>> General at brlug.net >>> http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> General mailing list >> General at brlug.net >> http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net >> > > > > -- > Have Mercy & Say Yeah > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net -- Keith Stokes From sroddy at gmail.com Wed Feb 17 14:47:17 2010 From: sroddy at gmail.com (Shannon Roddy) Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 14:47:17 +1800 Subject: [brlug-general] Apple In-Reply-To: <1B13B678-48E7-4487-BE59-677951993974@neill.net> References: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E1761ED@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> <1B13B678-48E7-4487-BE59-677951993974@neill.net> Message-ID: <8d48b6ba1002171247s207a879dh68ef7fa64d8d6cc4@mail.gmail.com> For me, it's that it just freaking works. No hardware issues, minimal install on the server version so I get only what I want. 5 years support for LTS server. Don't get me started on Redhat/centos being years out of date... OpenLDAP bugs that have been fixed for a *long* time are still broken in CentOS current. I know their main target is a stable platform on redhat enterprise/CentOS, but jeeze... fix the bugs. I don't like having to compile from source unless I have to, and all too often, using CentOS means having to compile. Take postfix... I had to modify the spec file for the RPM to include MySQL support and rebuild. Ubuntu does what I want, when I want, and has reasonably current packages. And it's still debian linux more or less, so I can edit config files to customize it to do what/when I want the way I want. Rant over. :P On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Keith Stokes wrote: > I think the concept is that Ubuntu is dumbed-down and minimalistic to > the degree that a normal computer user might be able to actually > install and use it. > > It's got amazing hardware drivers too. I've had it work on brand-new > hardware when no other "normal" distros would work. > > On Feb 17, 2010, at 1:59 PM, Brad Bendily wrote: > > > meh. > > before i finished reading the link i was thinking they're changing it > > cause yahoo is gonna give them money. > > but, to me it doesn't really matter. i don't see any person using > > ubuntu caring either. cause anyone using ubuntu > > is going to know how to change the default to what they want any way. > > every time I reload windows I have to change > > the default search to google. i mean, open source projects need > > money too. > > > > ot, what is the deal with ubuntu lately. why is everyone jumping on > > the ubuntu bandwagon? > > it seems a little too dumbed down to me. too minimalistic. > > > > On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Karthik Poobalasubramanian > > wrote: > >> Competition should keep everyone grounded but I think as long as > >> Jobs heads Apple, everyone there will be working to please him. I > >> am happy to see that Microsft, Google and Apple are fighting for > >> the Mobile Phone/App market Also, Microsoft and google are having a > >> turf war for web search. > >> > >> Over the past couple of years Apple has become more of a consumer > >> electronics company than a computer manufacturer. > >> > >> So, what do you guys think about Ubuntu's recent decision to change > >> the default web search on their distribution from Google to Yahoo! ? > >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2010-January/030065.html > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Karthik Poobalasubramanian > >> karthik at poobal.net > >> karthik at la.gov > >> (225) 341-5855 > >> skype: poobal > >> > >> > >> On Feb 17, 2010, at 12:36 PM, Dustin Puryear wrote: > >> > >>> See, we were just talking about Apple and some management styles. > >>> Look here: > >>> > >>> > http://www.cracked.com/article_18377_5-reasons-you-should-be-scared-apple.html > >>> > >>> I do wonder if Apple will turn truly evil one day. > >>> > >>> If so, great! We can put them in the thunder dome with Adobe and > >>> let them slug it out. > >>> > >>> --- > >>> Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ > >>> Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On > >>> Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies > >>> > >>> Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" > >>> http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> General mailing list > >>> General at brlug.net > >>> http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> General mailing list > >> General at brlug.net > >> http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Have Mercy & Say Yeah > > > > _______________________________________________ > > General mailing list > > General at brlug.net > > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > > -- > > Keith Stokes > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karthik at poobal.net Wed Feb 17 14:53:43 2010 From: karthik at poobal.net (Karthik Poobalasubramanian) Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 14:53:43 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] Apple In-Reply-To: <713333.22195.qm@web55304.mail.re4.yahoo.com> References: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E1761ED@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> <713333.22195.qm@web55304.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <19AA3A2F-7E6C-499E-AADB-B1B5C369FF9D@poobal.net> To me, Ubuntu is not really dumbed down but it is minimalistic which helps "normal" users. In any case, it's basically Debian flavored distro. Even though I switched from Ubuntu to a OS X couple of years ago, my parents have been running Ubuntu since 2007. They actually apply the updates on their computers and I keep an eye on it remotely. Before ubuntu it was very difficult to find drivers for hardware esp. in India and we had to reinstall Windows every couple of months 'cause my folks will somehow manage to get it infected. Karthik On Feb 17, 2010, at 2:09 PM, Jordan Scott wrote: > And for my first ever reply after years of lurching, I give you Brad Bendilly, the master of answering his own questions: > > "ot, what is the deal with ubuntu lately. why is everyone jumping on > the ubuntu bandwagon? > it seems a little too dumbed down to me. too minimalistic." > > Dumbed down = what people want. > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Brad Bendily > To: general at brlug.net > Sent: Wed, February 17, 2010 1:59:27 PM > Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Apple > > meh. > before i finished reading the link i was thinking they're changing it > cause yahoo is gonna give them money. > but, to me it doesn't really matter. i don't see any person using > ubuntu caring either. cause anyone using ubuntu > is going to know how to change the default to what they want any way. > every time I reload windows I have to change > the default search to google. i mean, open source projects need money too. > > ot, what is the deal with ubuntu lately. why is everyone jumping on > the ubuntu bandwagon? > it seems a little too dumbed down to me. too minimalistic. > > On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Karthik Poobalasubramanian > wrote: >> Competition should keep everyone grounded but I think as long as Jobs heads Apple, everyone there will be working to please him. I am happy to see that Microsft, Google and Apple are fighting for the Mobile Phone/App market Also, Microsoft and google are having a turf war for web search. >> >> Over the past couple of years Apple has become more of a consumer electronics company than a computer manufacturer. >> >> So, what do you guys think about Ubuntu's recent decision to change the default web search on their distribution from Google to Yahoo! ? >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2010-January/030065.html >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Karthik Poobalasubramanian >> karthik at poobal.net >> karthik at la.gov >> (225) 341-5855 >> skype: poobal >> >> >> On Feb 17, 2010, at 12:36 PM, Dustin Puryear wrote: >> >>> See, we were just talking about Apple and some management styles. Look here: >>> >>> http://www.cracked.com/article_18377_5-reasons-you-should-be-scared-apple.html >>> >>> I do wonder if Apple will turn truly evil one day. >>> >>> If so, great! We can put them in the thunder dome with Adobe and let them slug it out. >>> >>> --- >>> Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ >>> Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On >>> Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies >>> >>> Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" >>> http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> General mailing list >>> General at brlug.net >>> http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> General mailing list >> General at brlug.net >> http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net >> > > > > -- > Have Mercy & Say Yeah > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net From torrancew at gmail.com Wed Feb 17 15:07:27 2010 From: torrancew at gmail.com (Warren "Tray" Torrance) Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 15:07:27 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] Apple In-Reply-To: <8d48b6ba1002171247s207a879dh68ef7fa64d8d6cc4@mail.gmail.com> References: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E1761ED@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> <1B13B678-48E7-4487-BE59-677951993974@neill.net> <8d48b6ba1002171247s207a879dh68ef7fa64d8d6cc4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <19c66d9e1002171307n41d409a0u453cf2edd69f833e@mail.gmail.com> I'm inclined to agree with Shannon. I mostly favor a debian-based OS, and Ubuntu is easy enough for my friends and family to use, customizable enough for me. The last version or two are starting to go in some directions I don't like, but nothing to do with the search engines. Warren "Tray" Torrance On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 14:47, Shannon Roddy wrote: > For me, it's that it just freaking works. No hardware issues, minimal > install on the server version so I get only what I want. 5 years support > for LTS server. > > Don't get me started on Redhat/centos being years out of date... OpenLDAP > bugs that have been fixed for a *long* time are still broken in CentOS > current. I know their main target is a stable platform on redhat > enterprise/CentOS, but jeeze... fix the bugs. I don't like having to > compile from source unless I have to, and all too often, using CentOS means > having to compile. Take postfix... I had to modify the spec file for the > RPM to include MySQL support and rebuild. > > Ubuntu does what I want, when I want, and has reasonably current packages. > And it's still debian linux more or less, so I can edit config files to > customize it to do what/when I want the way I want. > > Rant over. :P > > > On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Keith Stokes wrote: > >> I think the concept is that Ubuntu is dumbed-down and minimalistic to >> the degree that a normal computer user might be able to actually >> install and use it. >> >> It's got amazing hardware drivers too. I've had it work on brand-new >> hardware when no other "normal" distros would work. >> >> On Feb 17, 2010, at 1:59 PM, Brad Bendily wrote: >> >> > meh. >> > before i finished reading the link i was thinking they're changing it >> > cause yahoo is gonna give them money. >> > but, to me it doesn't really matter. i don't see any person using >> > ubuntu caring either. cause anyone using ubuntu >> > is going to know how to change the default to what they want any way. >> > every time I reload windows I have to change >> > the default search to google. i mean, open source projects need >> > money too. >> > >> > ot, what is the deal with ubuntu lately. why is everyone jumping on >> > the ubuntu bandwagon? >> > it seems a little too dumbed down to me. too minimalistic. >> > >> > On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Karthik Poobalasubramanian >> > wrote: >> >> Competition should keep everyone grounded but I think as long as >> >> Jobs heads Apple, everyone there will be working to please him. I >> >> am happy to see that Microsft, Google and Apple are fighting for >> >> the Mobile Phone/App market Also, Microsoft and google are having a >> >> turf war for web search. >> >> >> >> Over the past couple of years Apple has become more of a consumer >> >> electronics company than a computer manufacturer. >> >> >> >> So, what do you guys think about Ubuntu's recent decision to change >> >> the default web search on their distribution from Google to Yahoo! ? >> >> >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2010-January/030065.html >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Karthik Poobalasubramanian >> >> karthik at poobal.net >> >> karthik at la.gov >> >> (225) 341-5855 >> >> skype: poobal >> >> >> >> >> >> On Feb 17, 2010, at 12:36 PM, Dustin Puryear wrote: >> >> >> >>> See, we were just talking about Apple and some management styles. >> >>> Look here: >> >>> >> >>> >> http://www.cracked.com/article_18377_5-reasons-you-should-be-scared-apple.html >> >>> >> >>> I do wonder if Apple will turn truly evil one day. >> >>> >> >>> If so, great! We can put them in the thunder dome with Adobe and >> >>> let them slug it out. >> >>> >> >>> --- >> >>> Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ >> >>> Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On >> >>> Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies >> >>> >> >>> Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" >> >>> http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> General mailing list >> >>> General at brlug.net >> >>> http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> General mailing list >> >> General at brlug.net >> >> http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Have Mercy & Say Yeah >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > General mailing list >> > General at brlug.net >> > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net >> >> >> -- >> >> Keith Stokes >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> General mailing list >> General at brlug.net >> http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net >> > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From sroddy at gmail.com Wed Feb 17 15:13:23 2010 From: sroddy at gmail.com (Shannon Roddy) Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 15:13:23 +1800 Subject: [brlug-general] Apple In-Reply-To: References: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E1761ED@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> <1B13B678-48E7-4487-BE59-677951993974@neill.net> <8d48b6ba1002171247s207a879dh68ef7fa64d8d6cc4@mail.gmail.com> <19c66d9e1002171307n41d409a0u453cf2edd69f833e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8d48b6ba1002171313jd1e9f8n7a3dc7c25bd0d57c@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Brad Bendily wrote: > On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Warren "Tray" Torrance > wrote: > > I'm inclined to agree with Shannon. > > don't do that, you'll get him all worked up. Wow... the last year or more, it seems I've been building up some reputations I have no idea how I generated. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dpuryear at puryear-it.com Wed Feb 17 15:31:46 2010 From: dpuryear at puryear-it.com (Dustin Puryear) Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 15:31:46 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] Apple References: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E1761ED@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> <1B13B678-48E7-4487-BE59-677951993974@neill.net><8d48b6ba1002171247s207a879dh68ef7fa64d8d6cc4@mail.gmail.com> <19c66d9e1002171307n41d409a0u453cf2edd69f833e@mail.gmail.com> <8d48b6ba1002171313jd1e9f8n7a3dc7c25bd0d57c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E176204@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> Because you're evil in the "Hahaha I'm evil!" sort of way. --- Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On Behalf Of Shannon Roddy Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 3:13 PM To: general at brlug.net Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Apple On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Brad Bendily wrote: On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Warren "Tray" Torrance wrote: > I'm inclined to agree with Shannon. don't do that, you'll get him all worked up. Wow... the last year or more, it seems I've been building up some reputations I have no idea how I generated. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From john.b.cole at gmail.com Wed Feb 17 18:09:53 2010 From: john.b.cole at gmail.com (John B Cole) Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 19:09:53 -0500 Subject: [brlug-general] Apple In-Reply-To: <19AA3A2F-7E6C-499E-AADB-B1B5C369FF9D@poobal.net> References: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E1761ED@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> <713333.22195.qm@web55304.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <19AA3A2F-7E6C-499E-AADB-B1B5C369FF9D@poobal.net> Message-ID: <78C18FEE-DF3B-47FB-A67A-4C8761E3D3CD@gmail.com> I'm going to assume that the "dumbed down" bit is deliberately provocative so that the list will perk up. I just migrated the family PC that my six-year-old uses from XP Home to Kubuntu 9.10, and it's working nicely. I've spent enough time doing things the hard way that I don't feel my geek cred is in danger (I had an Rticle in Pyghon Magazine, for Pete's sake). All of the Linux you could ever want is in there, but my wife and kids don't know, or need to. I guess there's always Slackware or something if *buntu's not challenging enough. :-) John Sent from my iPod On Feb 17, 2010, at 15:53, Karthik Poobalasubramanian wrote: > To me, Ubuntu is not really dumbed down but it is minimalistic which > helps "normal" users. In any case, it's basically Debian flavored > distro. Even though I switched from Ubuntu to a OS X couple of years > ago, my parents have been running Ubuntu since 2007. They actually > apply the updates on their computers and I keep an eye on it > remotely. Before ubuntu it was very difficult to find drivers for > hardware esp. in India and we had to reinstall Windows every couple > of months 'cause my folks will somehow manage to get it infected. > > > Karthik > > > On Feb 17, 2010, at 2:09 PM, Jordan Scott wrote: > >> And for my first ever reply after years of lurching, I give you >> Brad Bendilly, the master of answering his own questions: >> >> "ot, what is the deal with ubuntu lately. why is everyone jumping on >> the ubuntu bandwagon? >> it seems a little too dumbed down to me. too minimalistic." >> >> Dumbed down = what people want. >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >> From: Brad Bendily >> To: general at brlug.net >> Sent: Wed, February 17, 2010 1:59:27 PM >> Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Apple >> >> meh. >> before i finished reading the link i was thinking they're changing it >> cause yahoo is gonna give them money. >> but, to me it doesn't really matter. i don't see any person using >> ubuntu caring either. cause anyone using ubuntu >> is going to know how to change the default to what they want any way. >> every time I reload windows I have to change >> the default search to google. i mean, open source projects need >> money too. >> >> ot, what is the deal with ubuntu lately. why is everyone jumping on >> the ubuntu bandwagon? >> it seems a little too dumbed down to me. too minimalistic. >> >> On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Karthik Poobalasubramanian >> wrote: >>> Competition should keep everyone grounded but I think as long as >>> Jobs heads Apple, everyone there will be working to please him. I >>> am happy to see that Microsft, Google and Apple are fighting for >>> the Mobile Phone/App market Also, Microsoft and google are having >>> a turf war for web search. >>> >>> Over the past couple of years Apple has become more of a consumer >>> electronics company than a computer manufacturer. >>> >>> So, what do you guys think about Ubuntu's recent decision to >>> change the default web search on their distribution from Google to >>> Yahoo! ? >>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2010-January/030065.html >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Karthik Poobalasubramanian >>> karthik at poobal.net >>> karthik at la.gov >>> (225) 341-5855 >>> skype: poobal >>> >>> >>> On Feb 17, 2010, at 12:36 PM, Dustin Puryear wrote: >>> >>>> See, we were just talking about Apple and some management styles. >>>> Look here: >>>> >>>> http://www.cracked.com/article_18377_5-reasons-you-should-be-scared-apple.html >>>> >>>> I do wonder if Apple will turn truly evil one day. >>>> >>>> If so, great! We can put them in the thunder dome with Adobe and >>>> let them slug it out. >>>> >>>> --- >>>> Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ >>>> Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On >>>> Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies >>>> >>>> Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" >>>> http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> General mailing list >>>> General at brlug.net >>>> http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> General mailing list >>> General at brlug.net >>> http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Have Mercy & Say Yeah >> >> _______________________________________________ >> General mailing list >> General at brlug.net >> http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> General mailing list >> General at brlug.net >> http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > General at brlug.net > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net From dpuryear at puryear-it.com Thu Feb 18 09:22:17 2010 From: dpuryear at puryear-it.com (Dustin Puryear) Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 09:22:17 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] FW: [lopsa-discuss] If you only had 5 minutes to secure a server ... Message-ID: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E176218@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> Ooh, this looks interesting: -----Original Message----- From: discuss-bounces at lopsa.org [mailto:discuss-bounces at lopsa.org] On Behalf Of Trey Darley Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 9:04 AM To: LOPSA Discuss List Subject: Re: [lopsa-discuss] If you only had 5 minutes to secure a server ... I have a couple of Yubikeys (1st gen) and use 'em all the time. I think this is a product to watch. --Trey From dpuryear at puryear-it.com Tue Feb 23 09:56:03 2010 From: dpuryear at puryear-it.com (Dustin Puryear) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 09:56:03 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] How important is uptime to you? Message-ID: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E1762B3@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> Funny: http://xkcd.com/705/ --- Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ Active Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On Identity and Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dpuryear at puryear-it.com Tue Feb 23 10:29:47 2010 From: dpuryear at puryear-it.com (Dustin Puryear) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 10:29:47 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] FW: [ale] Suicide Linux Message-ID: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E1762B9@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> Think you've mastered Linux? Prove it, with Suicide Linux from Download Squad by Jay Hathaway Linux gurus who pride themselves on their skills with the command line would finally have a way to prove it if one guy's wacky idea came to fruition. Yes, it's Suicide Linux , where any unrecognized command is parsed as "rm -rf /" ... that's Linux for "your hard drive's content go boom." Sorry, no helpful spelling correction in Bash, just boom. This concept popped up on Sam Hughes' qntm.org last year, and has been making the rounds of the web again this week. Why would you ever want to play Suicide Linux? Well, it's certainly not practical, but it makes more sense as a game than as an actual operating system. See how many days you can make it without erasing all your files! Hell, I probably wouldn't even be able to survive Suicide Mac OS X for more than a week (sometimes I flub my Quicksilver commands when I'm tired, okay?!), so Suicide Linux sounds to me like a test invented by an overdramatic movie villain. Unfortunately (or maybe fortunately), I couldn't find an actual download of a Suicide Linux distro, but it seems like it wouldn't be that difficult to create ... especially for someone who could use it. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From torrancew at gmail.com Tue Feb 23 12:12:35 2010 From: torrancew at gmail.com (Warren "Tray" Torrance) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 12:12:35 -0600 Subject: [brlug-general] FW: [ale] Suicide Linux In-Reply-To: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E1762B9@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> References: <43452C495F09D048BF7CE9F96B65688E1762B9@sbs.Puryear-IT.local> Message-ID: <1266948755.2803.5.camel@Nokia-N900-51-1> Found this yesterday. Funny idea. ----- Original message ----- > > Think you've mastered Linux? Prove it, with Suicide Linux > b7> > > >? > > > from Download Squad > om%2Frss.xml>? by Jay Hathaway > > Linux gurus who pride themselves on their skills with the command line > would finally have a way to prove it if one guy's wacky idea came to > fruition. Yes, it's Suicide Linux , where any > unrecognized command is parsed as "rm -rf /" ... that's Linux for "your > hard drive's content go boom." Sorry, no helpful spelling correction in > Bash, just boom. This concept popped up on Sam Hughes' qntm.org last > year, and has been making the rounds of the web again this week. > > > Why would you ever want to play Suicide Linux? Well, it's certainly not > practical, but it makes more sense as a game than as an actual operating > system. See how many days you can make it without erasing all your > files! Hell, I probably wouldn't even be able to survive Suicide Mac OS > X for more than a week (sometimes I flub my Quicksilver commands when > I'm tired, okay?!), so Suicide Linux sounds to me like a test invented > by an overdramatic movie villain. > > Unfortunately (or maybe fortunately), I couldn't find an actual download > of a Suicide Linux distro, but it seems like it wouldn't be that > difficult to create ... especially for someone who could use it. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Funny idea. ----- Original message ----- > > Think you've mastered Linux? Prove it, with Suicide Linux > b7> > > > > > > from Download Squad > om%2Frss.xml> by Jay Hathaway > > Linux gurus who pride themselves on their skills with the command line > would finally have a way to prove it if one guy's wacky idea came to > fruition. Yes, it's Suicide Linux ; , where any > unrecognized command is parsed as "rm -rf /" ... that's Linux for "your > hard drive's content go boom." Sorry, no helpful spelling correction in > Bash, just boom. This concept popped up on Sam Hughes' qntm.org last > year, and has been making the rounds of the web again this week. > > > Why would you ever want to play Suicide Linux? Well, it's certainly not > practical, but it makes more sense as a game than as an actual operating > system. See how many days you can make it without erasing all your > files! Hell, I probably wouldn't even be able to survive Suicide Mac OS > X for more than a week (sometimes I flub my Quicksilver commands when > I'm tired, okay?!), so Suicide Linux sounds to me like a test invented > by an overdramatic movie villain. > > Unfortunately (or maybe fortunately), I couldn't find an actual download > of a Suicide Linux distro, but it seems like it wouldn't be that > difficult to create ... especially for someone who could use it. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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