[brlug-general] Police to get more access to your data?

[Warren "Tray" Torrance]

I'd have to agree - if the laptop is evidence, they can take a shot at
brute-force decryption, but forcing you to decrypt it seems a bit shaky, to
say the least. I'm a bit unsure of the examples provided by Keith though - I
was once told to carry any sensitive information in a separate lock box when
driving, as that would not be covered by a warrant to search your car, but
vehicular laws in that area differ from home search warrants, and the source
of that advice was not an attorney.

Thanks,

Warren "Tray" Torrance


On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 11:02, Karthik Poobalasubramanian <karthik at poobal.net
> wrote:

> Good summarization Dustin.
> Also, if cops have a warrant to the house and no keys to the locked closet,
> won't just break the lock than force someone to give them the keys?
> Shouldn't the same thing apply to decrypting the hard drive?
>
> When its a child porn case, the grey area just gets wider.
>
> --
> Karthik Poobalasubramanian
> Louisiana Board of Regents
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>
> On Feb 4, 2010, at 10:27 AM, Dustin Puryear wrote:
>
> > To sum up that article: A guy was forced by a judge to decrypt his
> > hard-drive for a child porn case. The ACLU and others feel that being
> > forced to decrypt your hard-drive to provide evidence violates the Fifth
> > Amendment (see
> > http://law.jrank.org/pages/6880/Fifth-Amendment-Self-Incrimination-Claus
> > e.html).
> >
> > Interesting case.
> >
> > To me, that is a violation of the Fifth Amendment.
> >
> > If I have a notebook that includes supposed proof that I committed a
> > crime, the police have the right to use that against me. Fine. However,
> > they can't force me to tell them where it is or even that I know of its
> > existence, AFAIK.
> >
> > How is decrypting your hard-drive any different?
> >
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On
> > Behalf Of Karthik Poobalasubramanian
> > Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 10:15 AM
> > To: general at brlug.net
> > Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Police to get more access to your data?
> >
> > Except when you get forced to reveal you private key to decrypt your
> > data.
> >
> > http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10172866-38.html
> >
> >
> > --
> > Karthik Poobalasubramanian
> > Louisiana Board of Regents
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> >
> >
> > On Feb 4, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Dustin Puryear wrote:
> >
> >> Encrypted data is the only real way I suppose.
> >>
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> >> From: general-bounces at brlug.net [mailto:general-bounces at brlug.net] On
> > Behalf Of Keith Stokes
> >> Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 9:22 AM
> >> To: general at brlug.net
> >> Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Police to get more access to your data?
> >>
> >> It probably doesn't exist.
> >>
> >> On Feb 4, 2010, at 9:19 AM, Tim Fournet wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> So, what exactly is the "safe from police" way to store data?
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Dustin Puryear
> > <dpuryear at puryear-it.com> wrote:
> >> Karthik and I just talked about this yesterday!
> >>
> >> http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10446503-38.html?tag=digg2
> >>
> >> Is your web data really safe?
> >>
> >> Uh, no.
> >>
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