From johnahebert at yahoo.com Wed Sep 1 13:27:23 2004 From: johnahebert at yahoo.com (John Hebert) Date: Wed Sep 1 13:27:03 2004 Subject: [Ltsp] Re: K12LTSP efforts In-Reply-To: <40B94E83-FAF0-11D8-B84B-0030654CD4F0@i-55.com> Message-ID: <20040901182723.72595.qmail@web10703.mail.yahoo.com> --- Michael Murray wrote: > I spent most of Sunday afternoon rearranging my home > office to > accommodate a second desk, then installing a P3 > 450MHz terminal server. > My first installation attempt was v4.1, but I had > difficulty with the > thin client: it was returning a "screens not found" > error and halting. > I understand this to mean the video chipset on the > IBM 300GL thin > client may not be supported in Fedora 2. Lacking the > rudimentary skills > needed to resolve the problem, I installed the v3.12 > Red Hat 9-based > version and everything worked as advertised. So now > I have a > functioning system to fiddle with. The server has > 448MB RAM but only > an 8GB IDE drive. Still much configuration work to > do when I have > someone competent at my elbow. Michael, Congrats on getting a test server up. Note that I've CCed: ltsp@brlug.net in this reply. Recommend strongly that we move our discussion to the ltsp@brlug.net mailing list, which will require that you subscribe to it: http://www.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/ltsp_brlug.net > My problematic experiences attempting installations > on several > dual-processor servers suggest that typical > mainstream hardware is > likelier to work than my old PII IBM Netfinity 5000 > and similar > servers. Maybe we'll be better off setting up small > systems with a P3 > like the above and four or five terminals: just > enough for a typical > classroom. Even if we succeed in configuring the > older servers, we run > into bandwidth issues on the available ethernet > switches. A 24-port > 10/100 switch with gigabit uplink ports ($180 > education pricing: > http://amer.com/catalogue/asr24g2.html ) is ideal, > but we're lucky to > get a 10Mbps switch with 100Mbps uplink ports (this > is what I'm using > now). Since we have no funding at all, we can only > scale up to our > hardware constraints. Gotcha. I guess we will take what hardware we can get! :) As a group sees what kind of return an LTSP lab can give, I think it will be easier for that group to devote funds to it to scale it up. > It occurs to me that a viable business might be > built around leasing > fully configured K12LTSP labs to schools. Systems > could be configured > with proper servers (dual 3GHz Xeon with 4GB RAM) > and adequate > switches, yet still enjoy the economy of thin > clients and open source > software. Remote administration would be a snap, and > a support contract > would be included in the lease (a percentage of each > contract to the > administrator, who could work from his home). The > overall contract > would be so low-priced (by comparison to what most > are spending per > screen now) that it would be damn near irresistible > if one could only > overcome political issues. No limit to where this > might go, and I > suggest that such a commercial endeavor might better > benefit Louisiana > schools than our pro bono undertaking. Still, I > maintain my enthusiasm > for the work at hand, as it really is a noble > effort. And it's a > prerequisite to any commercial ambition. Sure, that could work. I would also like to point out that $ could be made in the simple labor it requires to set up and maintain hardware for LTSP systems. Even non-profits require funds to operate. > I put in a call this afternoon to David Grant at > CACRC and was told he > was out for the day because his grandmother had > passed away. David emailed me a few days ago to ask about Knoppix. Gave him some answers but hadn't heard from him since, so this sad news would explain that. > My week is fully scheduled and I won't have more > time for the LTSP > project until Saturday at the earliest. I have an > auction to attend in > Montgomery, then a huge load to bring in from a > previous sale. I'm best > reached on cellphone for this week. Again, I recommend that you subscribe to the ltsp@brlug.net mailing list so that more people can join in on the discussion. John __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From mmurray at i-55.com Sat Sep 4 12:56:32 2004 From: mmurray at i-55.com (Michael Murray) Date: Sat Sep 4 12:54:44 2004 Subject: [Ltsp] CACRC and BRLUG implement K12LTSP Message-ID: We now have a forum and several volunteers. I think we have a consensus on objective: provide working K12LTSP multiuser systems to schools, libraries and similar organizations using donated computer hardware. Ultimately, we hope for involvement of other LUGs to support statewide installations. Please feel free to suggest other objectives or ideas; I claim no standing or authority and only voice my suggestions. The Capital Area Corporate Recycling Council ( cacrc.com ) has agreed to provide hardware for the project through their Computers for Louisiana's Kids (CLK) program, directed by David Grant. We do have additional equipment donors we can draw upon. Our challenge is to reach a collective competence in configuring and administering K12LTSP servers and networks, then provide support for the local administrators in running the systems. We have one system in the field already, and a second server awaits configuration in Baton Rouge. If we make the effort, we might install hundreds of systems statewide with a consequent impact upon education in Louisiana. Please subscribe to the LTSP mailing list at http://www.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/ltsp_brlug.net to participate. Michael Murray From mmurray at i-55.com Sat Sep 4 12:56:35 2004 From: mmurray at i-55.com (Michael Murray) Date: Sat Sep 4 12:54:44 2004 Subject: [Ltsp] Trafton Academy: pilot K12LTSP installation Message-ID: Trafton Adademy, a small not-for-profit K-8 school in Hammond started this term with a modest K12LTSP system. Sabrina Duhe, Trafton System Administrator, has had some experience with Unix, but this is her first Linux experience. Server: IBM P300GL 400MHz PII desktop computer; 256MB RAM, 6.4GB storage. Clients: four IBM P300GL 166MHz P1 thin clients; 32MB RAM, no drives. 15" monitors System is currently networked with a 10BaseT hub, but we just secured a 24-port 10BaseT switch with two 100BaseT uplink ports. We had intended to use an available dual processor 400MHz PII IBM Netfinity server, but encountered issues and abandoned that server for the rather lame one previously configured as a test machine. This somewhat pitiful package is nevertheless providing internet access for a total of five users. We have a dual-processor PIII 500MHz server promised by CACRC in Baton Rouge awaiting configuration. We'll issue a call for volunteers to attend an install-and-configure session at CACRC as quickly as it can be arranged. I'll bring a working server and client for testing and demonstration. Free installation CDs for all who attend. Configuring a terminal server for optimum performance is an ongoing process, and there will be plenty to be done on site at Trafton. I entertain hopes for hands-on help from members who live or work in the Hammond area. Please subscribe to the LTSP mailing list at http://www.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/ltsp_brlug.net to participate. Michael Murray From johnahebert at yahoo.com Tue Sep 7 08:54:44 2004 From: johnahebert at yahoo.com (John Hebert) Date: Tue Sep 7 08:53:00 2004 Subject: LTSP mailing list is up was Fwd: [Ltsp] Trafton Academy: pilot K12LTSP installation Message-ID: <20040907135444.73742.qmail@web10704.mail.yahoo.com> FYI: The BRLUG Linux Terminal Server Project mailing list is now operational. For all those interested in helping with this project, please subscribe to the mailing list: http://brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/ltsp_brlug.net We have a target location for an LTSP installation at a not-for-profit school near Hammond. If you have LTSP skills or just want to help, please join the list. Thanks, John --- Michael Murray wrote: > From Michael Murray Sat Sep 4 10:56:35 2004 > To: ltsp@brlug.net > From: Michael Murray > Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2004 12:56:35 -0500 > CC: > Subject: [Ltsp] Trafton Academy: pilot K12LTSP > installation > > Trafton Adademy, a small not-for-profit K-8 school > in Hammond started > this term with a modest K12LTSP system. Sabrina > Duhe, Trafton System > Administrator, has had some experience with Unix, > but this is her first > Linux experience. > > Server: IBM P300GL 400MHz PII desktop computer; > 256MB RAM, 6.4GB > storage. > Clients: four IBM P300GL 166MHz P1 thin clients; > 32MB RAM, no drives. > 15" monitors > System is currently networked with a 10BaseT hub, > but we just secured a > 24-port 10BaseT switch with two 100BaseT uplink > ports. > > We had intended to use an available dual processor > 400MHz PII IBM > Netfinity server, but encountered issues and > abandoned that server for > the rather lame one previously configured as a test > machine. This > somewhat pitiful package is nevertheless providing > internet access for > a total of five users. > > We have a dual-processor PIII 500MHz server promised > by CACRC in Baton > Rouge awaiting configuration. We'll issue a call for > volunteers to > attend an install-and-configure session at CACRC as > quickly as it can > be arranged. I'll bring a working server and client > for testing and > demonstration. Free installation CDs for all who > attend. > > Configuring a terminal server for optimum > performance is an ongoing > process, and there will be plenty to be done on site > at Trafton. I > entertain hopes for hands-on help from members who > live or work in the > Hammond area. > > Please subscribe to the LTSP mailing list at > http://www.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/ltsp_brlug.net > to participate. > > Michael Murray > > > _______________________________________________ > Ltsp mailing list > Ltsp@brlug.net > http://brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/ltsp_brlug.net > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From johnahebert at yahoo.com Tue Sep 7 09:40:42 2004 From: johnahebert at yahoo.com (John Hebert) Date: Tue Sep 7 09:38:55 2004 Subject: remote access? was Re: [Ltsp] Trafton Academy: pilot K12LTSP installation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040907144043.67507.qmail@web10706.mail.yahoo.com> Michael, Thanks for the excellent posts on your progress. To follow up on your call for volunteers for an "install and configure" session for the P3 box, when? Also, can we give that server a name, so that we can refer to it easily? Also, as BRLUG members are scattered through time and space, I think we would get more volunteers if we could put the P3 box on the internet to allow remote access for configuration. The reason I propose this is because I don't think installing LTSP is a problem. Configuration and tweaking are where I think we need help. I feel confident that we can secure the box via ssh remote logins to provide adequate protection. This would require 2 network cards in it, as you have detailed before in our F2F talks. Once the configurations are done, and we get the explanations for the configuration changes from the authors, we can copy those configuration files and store them for future installs. Or, we could image the machine, but I'll bet that simply storing the configuration changes would suffice, and take much less disk space. In fact, I'll bet we could script the configuration changes, and simply run that script on a freshly installed box to configure it as desired. Whaddya think? John --- Michael Murray wrote: > Trafton Adademy, a small not-for-profit K-8 school > in Hammond started > this term with a modest K12LTSP system. Sabrina > Duhe, Trafton System > Administrator, has had some experience with Unix, > but this is her first > Linux experience. > > Server: IBM P300GL 400MHz PII desktop computer; > 256MB RAM, 6.4GB > storage. > Clients: four IBM P300GL 166MHz P1 thin clients; > 32MB RAM, no drives. > 15" monitors > System is currently networked with a 10BaseT hub, > but we just secured a > 24-port 10BaseT switch with two 100BaseT uplink > ports. > > We had intended to use an available dual processor > 400MHz PII IBM > Netfinity server, but encountered issues and > abandoned that server for > the rather lame one previously configured as a test > machine. This > somewhat pitiful package is nevertheless providing > internet access for > a total of five users. > > We have a dual-processor PIII 500MHz server promised > by CACRC in Baton > Rouge awaiting configuration. We'll issue a call for > volunteers to > attend an install-and-configure session at CACRC as > quickly as it can > be arranged. I'll bring a working server and client > for testing and > demonstration. Free installation CDs for all who > attend. > > Configuring a terminal server for optimum > performance is an ongoing > process, and there will be plenty to be done on site > at Trafton. I > entertain hopes for hands-on help from members who > live or work in the > Hammond area. > > Please subscribe to the LTSP mailing list at > http://www.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/ltsp_brlug.net > to participate. > > Michael Murray > > > _______________________________________________ > Ltsp mailing list > Ltsp@brlug.net > http://brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/ltsp_brlug.net > _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win 1 of 4,000 free domain names from Yahoo! Enter now. http://promotions.yahoo.com/goldrush From mmurray at i-55.com Tue Sep 7 14:18:42 2004 From: mmurray at i-55.com (Michael Murray) Date: Tue Sep 7 14:16:54 2004 Subject: remote access? was Re: [Ltsp] Trafton Academy: pilot K12LTSP installation In-Reply-To: <20040907144043.67507.qmail@web10706.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040907144043.67507.qmail@web10706.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Your assessment is certainly correct regarding ease of installation; over the long weekend I ran three more successful K12LTSP v 3.12 installations on dual-processor PII boxes. One of these servers went off this afternoon to Trafton with Sabrina Duhe, so Trafton now has a dual PII Xeon 400MHz server with 512MB RAM and a 9.1GB SCSI drive (Sabrina will call later with a report on its performance). This frees up the P3 server at CACRC for other uses. For those who wish to install the K12LTSP package, I find it prudent to run the installation with a single ethernet card installed and connected to a functioning hub or switch. This card will be automatically configured as eth0 and will provide DHCP connection to PXE-boot the thin clients. After installation and clients are shown to boot properly, install the second ethernet card, connect it to your router or cable/DSL modem and reboot. The system will detect the new card and offer the opportunity to configure it to look for a DHCP server. Once you finish booting you're all set to surf the net from any terminal. The other two servers are HP Kayak XU dual PII 400MHz with 448MB RAM and 9.1GB drives. One is long-since promised to a school in Ponchatoula, the other is not yet allocated.... I spoke with David Grant of CACRC this morning and suggested he select a school in Baton Rouge for an early installation. We figured to call for two BRLUG volunteers to "adopt" each participating school; they would provide assistance with installation/configuration and bridge communications between BRLUG, CACRC and the on-site system administrator. So adopt a school and start clamoring for a free computer lab (or labs) on their behalf. We are moving with dispatch and the wait may be short. David will confer with others at CACRC regarding an install/configure session for sometime next week. I expect we'll run through a complete installation on at least one server with several terminals. We hope to get a system running in their lobby for all to see and use. This is destined to be our testbed for the present, and we look for group assistance in configuring it for remote administration. Configuration issues that come to mind: it is possible to set the system to log in the clients automatically for an anonymous session; this might be appropriate for younger students, while older students could be given user names and passwords and an allocation of storage space. Utilities exist for converting a text file of user names to login names and random passwords: makes it easy for the sysadmin to deal with a large student body. Also, we note here that storage space is quite limited on the servers we have. We suggest the school acquire (at school expense) and install (with BRLUG assistance) an IDE drive for storage of all user files. All system files remain on the faster SCSI bus, for performance as well as easing system reinstalls. LDAP directory services will become an issue as we install multiple terminal services into the same network; an LDAP whiz (if there are any in BRLUG) could start us on the right path. We have a number of HOWTOs available online for other issues, such as setting IceWM as the default, disabling Gnome and KDE (to minimize the load for processor and bandwidth constraints). Then there's the matter of installing CUPS printers.... Michael Murray From adammelancon at gmail.com Tue Sep 7 15:20:50 2004 From: adammelancon at gmail.com (Adam Melancon) Date: Tue Sep 7 15:18:59 2004 Subject: remote access? was Re: [Ltsp] Trafton Academy: pilot K12LTSP installation In-Reply-To: References: <20040907144043.67507.qmail@web10706.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <489287610409071320d80c6d4@mail.gmail.com> Good luck with this. This is one of the major hurdles that was keeping me from doing this with the library I work for. I wanted an automatic anonymous login for patrons who just walk in the library and want to use the computers with no username/password. It would have to be something where the /home/computer1 (or whatever username is used) would be blown out upon logout, and on login the /etc/skel directory would be copied over to the /home/computer1 directory for a fresh start every session. I would love to get this to work because it would make it alot easier to implement the LTSP in public places like libraries or schools where you don't want/need to give everyone a username. Last time my friend Kris and I looked at this, we were trying to alter the /etc/X11/gdm/PreSession and PostSession scripts to make this happen, but could not get it to work. Alot has changed since the release we were tweaking, so it may be very easy to do now. On Tue, 7 Sep 2004 14:18:42 -0500, Michael Murray wrote: > > Configuration issues that come to mind: it is possible to set the > system to log in the clients automatically for an anonymous session; > this might be appropriate for younger students, while older students > could be given user names and passwords and an allocation of storage > space. Utilities exist for converting a text file of user names to > login names and random passwords: makes it easy for the sysadmin to > deal with a large student body. -- Adam Melancon Work: http://www.vermilion.lib.la.us Personal: http://www.melancon.org From mmurray at i-55.com Tue Sep 7 17:11:44 2004 From: mmurray at i-55.com (Michael Murray) Date: Tue Sep 7 17:09:48 2004 Subject: remote access? was Re: [Ltsp] Trafton Academy: pilot K12LTSP installation In-Reply-To: <489287610409071320d80c6d4@mail.gmail.com> References: <20040907144043.67507.qmail@web10706.mail.yahoo.com> <489287610409071320d80c6d4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sep 7, 2004, at 3:20 PM, Adam Melancon wrote: > Good luck with this. This is one of the major hurdles that was > keeping me from doing this with the library I work for. I wanted an > automatic anonymous login for patrons who just walk in the library and > want to use the computers with no username/password. It would have to > be something where the /home/computer1 (or whatever username is used) > would be blown out upon logout, and on login the /etc/skel directory > would be copied over to the /home/computer1 directory for a fresh > start every session. > > I would love to get this to work because it would make it alot easier > to implement the LTSP in public places like libraries or schools where > you don't want/need to give everyone a username. > > Last time my friend Kris and I looked at this, we were trying to alter > the /etc/X11/gdm/PreSession and PostSession scripts to make this > happen, but could not get it to work. > > Alot has changed since the release we were tweaking, so it may be very > easy to do now. I found this on the K12LTSP mailing list: http://www.litwiller.net/kiosk_browser/ One of the links given looks more like what you describe: http://k12ltsp.org/phpwiki/index.php/GDMKiosKMode Hope this can be of use. Michael Murray From mmurray at i-55.com Fri Sep 10 14:47:28 2004 From: mmurray at i-55.com (Michael Murray) Date: Fri Sep 10 14:45:56 2004 Subject: [Ltsp] Wednesday noon: install/configure session at CACRC office Message-ID: <3F0A7B61-0362-11D9-BB07-0030654CD4F0@i-55.com> All interested parties are invited to attend from noon till 2 p.m. on Wednesday: 800 St. Philip St. in Baton Rouge. We'll have a working K12LTSP system with terminals for demonstration. We will run a server installation and have available installation CDs for all who want copies. We will discuss configuration, procedural and political issues; we'll make an effort to move the program forward however we can. This is a good meeting to make if you can, as we will be attempting to define a course for the project. If you are unable to attend, take heart: we expect many similar sessions to come. Michael Murray From davidg at cacrc.com Tue Sep 14 13:48:06 2004 From: davidg at cacrc.com (David Grant) Date: Tue Sep 14 13:47:48 2004 Subject: [Ltsp] Sept. 15th meeting cancelled Message-ID: <200409141848.AXZ61081@mailrtr3.mailzone.edeltacom.com> To whom it may concern: The September 15th LTSP meeting for tomorrow at CACRC has been cancelled due to hurricane Ivan. We will post a message when we figure out when we can reschedule. We will most likely re-schedule in the next 2 weeks. I apologize if this has inconvenienced anybody, and Iook forward to working with everybody. David Grant Director, Computers for Louisiana's Kids (CLK) A Program of Capital Area Corporate Recycling Council (CACRC) davidg@cacrc.com 800 St Philip st Baton Rouge, LA 70802 225-379-3577 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/ltsp_brlug.net/attachments/20040914/41e2d98a/attachment.htm From mmurray at i-55.com Fri Sep 24 23:00:40 2004 From: mmurray at i-55.com (Michael Murray) Date: Fri Sep 24 23:00:18 2004 Subject: [Ltsp] Configuring 3Com PXE NICs; Wed. installation Message-ID: <775BE750-0EA7-11D9-9696-0030654CD4F0@i-55.com> David Grant and I spent some time Monday configuring his terminal server and getting one terminal booting. We found that computers with the same model designation could differ widely in their network configuration, and few were usable as thin clients without modificaiton. I've since been researching network booting using PXE code on floppy disks, CDs, EPROMs and PXE-equipped cards, concluding that the last are the way to go. I found this site that sells plenty NICs and provides a convenient chart showing which are PXE equipped: http://www.bootix.com/adapters/adapters_en.html#3com To my surprise, I found that a half dozen 3Com 3C905C-TXM cards in my own inventory were PXE-ready, only needing to be configured with 3Com's utility: http://support.3com.com/infodeli/tools/nic/mba.htm After some fuss and bother getting an old computer set up and running Windows (I should mention that I've been primarily a Mac user since 1985 and have scant Windows experience), I flashed four cards with the latest ROM code, configured and installed them into old Micron P1s that now work just fine as thin clients. I find these NICs going on eBay for as little as $2.50 each in quantity. Man, what a deal. Think I'll bid in a batch. Since we now have four clients and a server available, I called Mel Dressel of St. Joseph Catholic School in Ponchatoula (I promised her a setup months ago) and we scheduled an installation for Wednesday at 11:00. Sabrina Duhe of Trafton Academy in Hammond has volunteered to assist, and we expect a relatively painless installation. Anyone wishing to help with the job, please contact me for directions. Of course, the real work is post-install configuring, which I must leave to you who actually know something about Linux. This will be our second school installation of K12LTSP Linux. David Grant tells me he has a couple of schools in Baton Rouge interested, so we are looking for a couple of members to assist and support with installation and configuration. Contact David if you can make a commitment. Please. Our project has been moving far too slowly so far, but we have been learning quite a lot and expect business to pick up.... Michael Murray From johnahebert at yahoo.com Wed Sep 29 17:17:12 2004 From: johnahebert at yahoo.com (John Hebert) Date: Wed Sep 29 17:16:48 2004 Subject: [Ltsp] Configuring 3Com PXE NICs; Wed. installation In-Reply-To: <775BE750-0EA7-11D9-9696-0030654CD4F0@i-55.com> Message-ID: <20040929221712.80283.qmail@web10702.mail.yahoo.com> --- Michael Murray wrote: ... > Since we now have four clients and a server > available, I called Mel > Dressel of St. Joseph Catholic School in Ponchatoula > (I promised her a > setup months ago) and we scheduled an installation > for Wednesday at > 11:00. Sabrina Duhe of Trafton Academy in Hammond > has volunteered to > assist, and we expect a relatively painless > installation. Anyone > wishing to help with the job, please contact me for > directions. Of > course, the real work is post-install configuring, > which I must leave > to you who actually know something about Linux. How did the install go? Ideally, remote access to the server, even temporarily through a dial-up modem, is desired. Most BRLUG members are scattered throughout south Louisiana, so physically showing up at a site to configure the LTSP server is difficult. Is it possible to get a modem connected to the box for remote configuration by an experienced LTSP admin? > This will be our second school installation of > K12LTSP Linux. Making progress... > David Grant tells me he has a couple of schools in > Baton Rouge > interested, so we are looking for a couple of > members to assist and > support with installation and configuration. Contact > David if you can > make a commitment. Please. I'll post a message to the general@brlug.net list asking for volunteers. > Our project has been moving far too slowly so far, > but we have been > learning quite a lot and expect business to pick > up.... Unfortunately, I've been very busy with work and personal projects lately. But, I appreciate you taking the time to send out these reports. Are there specific questions that you need answered? Is there some topic you need researched? John Hebert _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Express yourself with Y! Messenger! Free. Download now. http://messenger.yahoo.com From mmurray at i-55.com Wed Sep 29 22:14:04 2004 From: mmurray at i-55.com (Michael Murray) Date: Wed Sep 29 22:13:38 2004 Subject: [Ltsp] Installation report: St. Joseph Catholic School in Ponchatoula In-Reply-To: <20040929221712.80283.qmail@web10702.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040929221712.80283.qmail@web10702.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: The St. Joseph Catholic School installation went well. It was particularly handy to have Sabrina Duhe's assistance, with her experience as Trafton Academy's sysadmin. We brought up the server and four terminals easily, the only problem resulting from my attempt to use three 14" monitors that just wouldn't work in an X-windows environment. I ducked out to my nearby warehouse and brought back 15" replacements that came up fine; we look forward to getting some 17s from CACRC soon. By the time I returned, Sabrina and Mel Dressel were well along in setting up users and dealing with other configuration issues in a focused and professional manner. We installed the printer without difficulty, and the system is ready for use: Dell PowerEdge 2300 dual PII 400MHz server with 384MB RAM and two 4.5GB SCSI drives Four Micron Millennia P1 thin clients with 32MB RAM and PXE-bootable 3Com 3C905C-TXM ethernet cards 3Com 12-port dual speed hub Lexmark 4039-10plus laser printer: has Postscript emulation for snappy printing We are all feeling pleased with ourselves. Personally, I'm delighted to see the beginnings of a Louisiana K12LTSP user community. The system is connected to the school's T1 line, so remote access setup should be a simple matter. Not simple enough for me, however, as I am absolutely clueless where to begin. I must again defer to the BRLUG for support. My competence is limited to hardware configuration and system installation; otherwise I'm a rank noob. I think it would be prudent to let the school use the system for a couple weeks' shakedown before we contemplate changes. By that time Mel should be in a better position to know what issues need addressing. We went with v3.12 on our first system because of video issues with the IBM 300GL terminals, and I followed suit with this install even though we used Micron P1 clients. Sound is important in a school environment, but I know from following the K12LTSP maillist that it can be challenging to implement, and really needs the Fedora 2-based v4.1. Perhaps we should consider an early upgrade at both sites. New video cards (I have plenty) in the IBM clients should work with the newer release. The upgrade should be within my capabilities, but we could use a competent volunteer to assist with sound configuration. Also, Sabrina is eager to use Scribus to produce Trafton's school newspaper and needs help with its installation. I'm having a lot of fun with this project. We really are turning old junk into some pretty slick systems, and we're just getting started. Michael Murray From johnahebert at yahoo.com Thu Sep 30 05:32:04 2004 From: johnahebert at yahoo.com (John Hebert) Date: Thu Sep 30 05:32:06 2004 Subject: [Ltsp] Installation report: St. Joseph Catholic School in Ponchatoula In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040930103204.7872.qmail@web10710.mail.yahoo.com> --- Michael Murray wrote: > The St. Joseph Catholic School installation went > well. Excellent! > We are all feeling pleased with ourselves. > Personally, I'm delighted to > see the beginnings of a Louisiana K12LTSP user > community. Here, here! > The system is connected to the school's T1 line, so > remote access setup > should be a simple matter. Not simple enough for me, > however, as I am > absolutely clueless where to begin. I must again > defer to the BRLUG for > support. First off, is sshd installed and running on the box? Of course, don't post IP addresses or authentication info on this mailing list, as its archives are public. > I think it would be prudent to let the school use > the system for a > couple weeks' shakedown before we contemplate > changes. By that time Mel > should be in a better position to know what issues > need addressing. Agreed. > The upgrade should be within my > capabilities, but we could use > a competent volunteer to assist with sound > configuration. Will Hill has lots of experience with sound card configuration under Linux. > Also, Sabrina is eager to use Scribus to produce > Trafton's school > newspaper and needs help with its installation. I'm not familiar with Scribus, but I know how to install software. What exactly is the problem? I see from looking at the Scribus website that software packages are available: http://www.scribus.org.uk/downloads/1.2/scribus-1.2-0.fdr.1.EL3.i686.rpm, etc. IIRC, LTSP is RedHat based, right? So, downloading and installing the .rpm software package above should work. There should be a GUI app on the LTSP server for installing .rpm files, but if not, I can look up how to do it from the command line. If someone else on this list has more RedHat experience than me, please chime in. ;) John Hebert __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail